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rtfox68

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Good Evening,

New to this, so if this is not the right spot for it, I appologize.

I downloaded a new mod / scenario titled World War III. It is a new Korean war mod.
Deleted my cache. loaded the mod. looks great. perform all my moves. at the end of the first turn, the game crashes all the way back to Windows.

I got Civ 5 when it was new, and it has never done this before. Ok... thought the mod was corrupt, but now my game has begun to randomly crash on mods, scenarios or just plain normal games.

Any thoughts?
 
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rtfox68 said:
Good Evening,

New to this, so if this is not the right spot for it, I appologize.

I downloaded a new mod / scenario titled World War III. It is a new Korean war mod.
Deleted my cache. loaded the mod. looks great. perform all my moves. at the end of the first turn, the game crashes all the way back to Windows.

I got Civ 5 when it was new, and it has never done this before. Ok... thought the mod was corrupt, but now my game has begun to randomly crash on mods, scenarios or just plain normal games.

Any thoughts?
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  1. If it were me I'd start by deleting my cache again as insurance since some mod-data seems to get stuck into some of the cached files, and it does not sound much like you have anything to lose.
  2. The next step after that I would take would be to verify integrity of the basegame files by doing the "VERIFY INTEGRITY OF GAME CACHE" on Steam. See here if you have never done that before. Hopefully the last few Steam Client Update changes haven't made a hash of the usefulness of those instructions.
This should at least confirm that you've taken the game back to its 'native state' so far as base files are concerned. If the problem persists after doing that I'm kinda stumped at what else to do.
 
You could try to view your crash log or enable logging and see if database.log has any information in it. Crash log requires ms visual studio or other programs to read, can be difficult to understand what actually caused the crash.

make sure all your drivers are up to date.. (via windows update), graphics and sound drivers, etc.. try just one mod at a time and see which one is causing the crash
 
The issue that has me a bit stumped is that he says he is now getting the crash even when running unmodded games.
 
crashed before the mod screen came up
 

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hmmmm. Your Stopwatch.log looks a fair bit different from mine. But I would guess you are getting hung up on the Base Game Maps stuff. Are you sure you did a Steam Verify Integrity of Game Cache correctly ?
Spoiler Yours :
Code: 
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[686.591] , CreateCoreDatabase, 2.674316
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[689.758] , cvAudioSystem::Startup, 1.379652
[692.192] , DISCOVERING MODS, 2.316339
[693.830] , 	Generate BaseGame Loc Database., 1.620890
[693.845] , 		Get Package Files, 0.018709
[694.750] , 		Generate Specific DLC Database, 0.907545
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[716.574] , 		Get Package Files, 0.000004
[716.574] , 	Generate DLC Loc Databases., 22.752046
[722.612] , 	CvLocalizationDatabaseFactory::GenerateMergedLocalizationDatabase(), 6.039548
[722.612] , New Localization Code, 30.415913
[725.186] , 	BeforeDeactivateMods - Release Database Cache, 0.000154
[725.186] , 	BeforeDeactivateMods - Unload DLL, 0.000000
[725.295] , 	AfterDeactivateMods - Reset filesystem, 0.000001
[726.793] , 		LoadCoreDatabase - Detach Loc Database, 0.019303
[726.824] , 		LoadCoreDatabase - Load Database, 0.040738
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[733.282] , 		LoadCoreDatabase - Attach Loc Database, 6.444857
[733.282] , 	AfterDeactivateMods - Rollback Database, 7.975270
[734.031] , 		Load DLC into Game Database, 0.754688
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[735.061] , 		Parse Map Scripts, 1.034848
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[735.061] , 	SetActiveDLCandMods - Activate Mods, 0.001083
[736.761] , 	SetActiveDLCandMods - Notify Localization Database Updated, 1.695585
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[737.775] , 	SetActiveDLCandMods - Refresh include() file list, 0.022899
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[737.775] , 	SetActiveDLCandMods - Perform Gameplay Database Post Processing, 0.002375
[738.664] , 	SetActiveDLCandMods - Cache Game Database Data, 0.899385
[738.664] , 	SetActiveDLCandMods - Rescan Localized Audio, 0.000288
[739.273] , SetActiveDLCandMods, 14.083807
[752.392] , LoadUnitLibraries via Database, 13.021092
Spoiler Mine :
Code: 
[1510136.265] , Discovering Base Game Map Scripts, 0.001477
[1510137.218] , CreateCoreDatabase, 0.937149
[1510137.640] , 	cvAudioManager::LoadExtraContentScripts, 0.217057
[1510137.640] , cvAudioSystem::Startup, 0.217094
[1510139.328] , DISCOVERING MODS, 1.625734
[1510139.328] , 	Generate BaseGame Loc Database., 0.006296
[1510139.343] , 		Get Package Files, 0.012314
[1510139.359] , 		Generate Specific DLC Database, 0.016683
[1510139.375] , 		Get Package Files, 0.018910
[1510139.406] , 		Generate Specific DLC Database, 0.019905
[1510139.421] , 		Get Package Files, 0.014740
[1510139.437] , 		Generate Specific DLC Database, 0.016428
[1510139.453] , 		Get Package Files, 0.015972
[1510139.468] , 		Generate Specific DLC Database, 0.018951
[1510139.484] , 		Get Package Files, 0.012412
[1510139.500] , 		Generate Specific DLC Database, 0.014145
[1510139.500] , 		Get Package Files, 0.008975
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[1510140.015] , 		Get Package Files, 0.000004
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[1510144.500] , 	CvLocalizationDatabaseFactory::GenerateMergedLocalizationDatabase(), 4.485096
[1510144.500] , New Localization Code, 5.179096
[1510145.906] , 	BeforeDeactivateMods - Release Database Cache, 0.000201
[1510145.906] , 	BeforeDeactivateMods - Unload DLL, 0.000001
[1510145.968] , 	AfterDeactivateMods - Reset filesystem, 0.000001
[1510146.968] , 		LoadCoreDatabase - Detach Loc Database, 0.033401
[1510146.984] , 		LoadCoreDatabase - Load Database, 0.017251
[1510152.843] , 			CvLocalizationDatabaseFactory::GenerateMergedLocalizationDatabase(), 5.860133
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[1510154.187] , 	AfterDeactivateMods - Rollback Database, 8.214663
[1510154.406] , 		Load DLC into Game Database, 0.223635
[1510154.406] , 	AfterDeactivateMods - Load DLC, 0.223671
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[1510155.187] , 		Parse Map Scripts, 0.785047
[1510155.187] , 	Discover and Parse Base Game Map Scripts, 0.786656
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[1510161.343] , Ensure All Tables with 'ID' column start at 0, 0.012361
[1510165.078] , Validate FK Constraints, 3.726141
[1510165.093] , Localization Checks, 0.019313
[1510165.093] , Validating UnitGameplay2DScripts, 0.000245
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[1510165.812] , 	SetActiveDLCandMods - Rescan Localized Audio, 0.000335
[1510167.968] , SetActiveDLCandMods, 22.069646
[1510175.890] , LoadUnitLibraries via Database, 7.842285
[1510186.296] , Discovering Base Game Maps, 0.002190
[1510186.875] , (Lua) Modding.CanEnableMod, 0.174481
[1510191.296] , (Lua) Modding.CanEnableMod, 4.345200
[1510191.343] , Discovering Base Game Maps, 0.002196
[1510191.484] , Discovering Base Game Maps, 0.002242
Do you also have more than the 'standard' error logging turned on? whoward69's enable error logging tutorial

You are or are not able to run an un-modded game? Asking to confirm my understanding of your problem.
 
LeeS said:
hmmmm. Your Stopwatch.log looks a fair bit different from mine. But I would guess you are getting hung up on the Base Game Maps stuff. Are you sure you did a Steam Verify Integrity of Game Cache correctly ?
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Yes - Ran Steam Verify Integrity - did not find anything wrong

You are or are not able to run an un-modded game? Asking to confirm my understanding of your problem.
Click to expand...

Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't. This crash was before the MOD screen came up.

I started a mod game after this crash and am on turn 10 or so.... so it is hit or miss.

Does not matter if I am online of offline.

I would delete steam and start over, but I am on a crappy hotel wifi (work)... would never complete.....
 
I will begin a new game with the advanced logging and post if I have a problem.

Thanks
 
Back to crashing at the mod loading screen
Archived and deleted almost all mods.
Killed the cache and logs...

Let's try this again
 

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What DLCs and expansions do you have ?

Also, again, can you throw a link to the mod you mentioned which seemed to be related to the start of the problem?
 
Given the description of the problem, the fact no one else has suggested anything else, and an examination of your logs compared against the DLC you listed gives me no hint, I am leaning toward the only suggestion I have left is drastic.

I would first run checks on your computer's drivers and such as labriejp suggested. If none of those have developed a problem, or are showing as having a problem from running diagnostic checks on them, I have only the usual sort of thing to suggest when a program will not run correctly: complete removal and re-install.

I did say it was drastic. Whether you decided to go that route is up to you.

If it were me I'd run the checks on my computer's drivers and such and I'd still wait a day or two to see if anyone has anything better to offer.
 
In the database log, the invalid leader references were before any mods were installed. Is this a corruption of the base game? Or a bad DLC?
 
No. It's because you don't have the DLC for them, But BNW in it's expansion-code has references to update some of the info for these leaders. So people who have BNW but not those DLC civs will always get those errors in their database.log
 
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