Making war not painful?

Check out the 4 city tradition start thread. This start tends to piss off the neighbors. An early profitable war you didn't start is preferable to war mongering.

Well, I just realized that we left water victories out of the question. I think I might've mentioned im more of a Pangea player, but when I think about it p, water p-based domination victories sound pretty enticing. Water units can move a great deal and have long ranged attacks, and there are a couple of civs who can still win early, even though that's not as important. I might try maybe neds or Byzantium with that being said. And unfortunately, in my last couple of posts, I forgot mentioning Happy Holidays to all!