How civilizations are doing in real world now

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I just wanted everyone to see how the *civs* are doing in our reality in year 2013. :D

I'll post the most obvious civs first, as some of the civs in the game are very complicated to figure out their modern successor Eg. Zulu (Are they part of South Africa now or what?) :)

Anyhow, it's going to take a while to complete... If I can even complete the list. :crazyeye:

The order of civilizations will totally be random, I will just pick a civ and start gathering info - if it gets too complicated, I will put it aside for later.

Most of information will be from online and please let me know if you can find an error. :)

For Democracy index, I will be using democracy index of 2012 - it's published in 2013 from The Economist Intelligence Unit.

I'll try to use most up-to-date data whenever possible. ;)




America in Civilization V

United States of America (United States)

Capital :c5capital:
Washington D.C

Population :c5citizen:
316,418,000 (3rd)

Land :c5moves:
9,826,675 km2 (3rd)



Economy

GDP :c5gold:
PPP: $15.685 trillion (1st)
Nominal: $15.685 trillion (1st)


GDP per capita
PPP: $49,922 (12th)
Nominal: $49,922 (6th)


Agriculture :c5food:
0.7% of GDP

Manufacturing :c5production:
20.3% GDP

Trade :c5trade:
Exports: $1.564 trillion (2nd)
Imports: $2.299 trillion (1st)
Balance: -$735 billion

Public debt :c5citystate:
$16.687 trillion
105% of GDP

Foreign reserves
$151.866 billion

Economic aid
$19 billion donor (DAC member)​


Military

Firepower :c5war:
Global firepower index: 0.2475 (1st)

Military expenditure :c5strength:
PPP: $682 billion (1st)
Nominal: $682 billion (1st)
4.4% of GDP​



Society

Human Development Index :c5happy:
0.937 (3rd) very high

Income Inequality :c5angry:
Gini Index: 47.7 very high

Democracy Index :c5goldenage:
8.11 (21st) Full democracy

Research & Developments spending :c5science:
$405.3 billion (PPP) (1st)
2.7% of GDP (PPP)

Religion :c5faith:
Protestant: 51.3%
Roman Catholicism: 23.9%
No Religion: 16.1%
Other Christianity: 3.3%
Judaism: 1.7%
Other Religions: 1.7%
Buddhism: 0.7%
Islam: 0.6%
Hinduism: 0.4%
Unitarian Universalism: 0.3%​



* % of GDP numbers may vary as each figures are from different years between 2010-2012


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Here comes the Aztecs - I decided that Mexico is their successor :)


Aztecs in Civilization V



United Mexican States [Estados Unidos Mexicanos] (Mexico)

Capital :c5capital:
Mexico City

Population :c5citizen:
117,409,830 (11th)

Land :c5moves:
1,972,550 km2 (14th)



Economy

GDP :c5gold:
PPP: $1.759 trillion (11th)
Nominal: $1.177 trillion (14th)


GDP per capita
PPP: $15,312 (64th)
Nominal: $10,247 (66th)


Agriculture :c5food:
3.9% of GDP

Manufacturing :c5production:
32.6% GDP

Trade :c5trade:
Exports: $298.5 billion (15th)
Imports: $301.5 billion (14th)
Balance: -$3 billion

Public debt :c5citystate:
$341 billion
36.9% of GDP

Foreign reserves
$128.299 billion

Economic aid
$189.4 million recipient ​



Military

Firepower :c5war:
Global firepower index: 0.9144 (21st)

Military expenditure :c5strength:
Nominal: $6.978 billion (27th)
0.4% of GDP​



Society

Human Development Index :c5happy:
0.775 (61st) high

Income Inequality :c5angry:
Gini Index: 47.2 very high

Democracy Index :c5goldenage:
6.90 (51st) Flawed democracy

Research & Developments spending :c5science:
$6.4 billion (PPP) (24th)
0.4% of GDP (PPP)

Religion :c5faith:
Roman Catholicism: 82.7%
Other Christianity: 9.7%
No religion: 4.7%
Unspecified: 2.7%
Other Religions: 0.2%​



* % of GDP numbers may vary as each figures are from different years between 2010-2012


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Egypt's successor was fairly easy to decide.


Egypt in Civilization V



Arab Republic of Egypt [جمهورية مصر العربية]

Capital :c5capital:
Cairo

Population :c5citizen:
84,550,000 (15th)

Land :c5moves:
1,002,450 km2 (30th)



Economy

GDP :c5gold:
PPP: $559.843 billion (27th)
Nominal: $264.701 billion (39th)


GDP per capita
PPP: $6,652
Nominal: $3,146


Agriculture :c5food:
14.7% of GDP

Manufacturing :c5production:
37.4% GDP

Trade :c5trade:
Exports: $26.83 billion (67th)
Imports: $58.76 billion (50th)
Balance: -$30.39 billion

Public debt :c5citystate:
$224 billion
85% of GDP

Foreign reserves
$13.1 billion

Economic aid
suspended? recipient ​



Military

Firepower :c5war:
Global firepower index: 0.7569 (14th)

Military expenditure :c5strength:
Nominal: $4.42 billion (39th)
1.7% of GDP​



Society

Human Development Index :c5happy:
0.644 (113th) medium

Income Inequality :c5angry:
Gini Index: 30.8 medium low

Democracy Index :c5goldenage:
4.56 (109th) Hybrid regime

Research & Developments spending :c5science:
$910 million (PPP) (46th)
0.23% of GDP (PPP)

Religion :c5faith:
Islam: 90.0%
Coptic Christianity: 9.0%
Other Christianity: 1.0%​



* % of GDP numbers may vary as each figures are from different years between 2010-2012


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As I got to Egypt, I thought of the famous divided nation on Earth... The North vs South, communism vs capitalism.

So I decided to include both under Korea.

The gap between South and North is enormous... This really shows how same people from same background can have really different future.

What I found funny was that the authoritarian North Korea had the word *democratic* in their official name.


Korea in Civilization V



Republic of Korea [대한민국] (South Korea)

Capital :c5capital:
Seoul

Population :c5citizen:
50,004,441 (25th)

Land :c5moves:
100,210 km2 (109th)



Economy

Gross Domestic Product :c5gold:
PPP: $1.687 trillion (12th)
Nominal: $1.259 trillion (15th)


GDP per capita
PPP: $33,580 (26th)
Nominal: $25,051 (34th)


Agriculture :c5food:
2.6% of GDP

Manufacturing :c5production:
39.2% GDP

Trade :c5trade:
Exports: $552.6 billion (6th)
Imports: $514.2 billion (7th)
Balance: $38.4 billion

Public debt :c5citystate:
$474 billion
37.7% of GDP

Foreign reserves
$306.4 billion

Economic aid
$1.32 billion donor (DAC member)
*Aid to North Korea excluded​


Military

Firepower :c5war:
Global firepower index: 0.6547 (8th)

Military expenditure :c5strength:
PPP: $44.2 billion (9th)
Nominal: $31.7 billion (12th)
2.7% of GDP​



Society

Human Development Index :c5happy:
0.909 (12th) very high

Income Inequality :c5angry:
Gini Index: 31.0 medium low

Democracy Index :c5goldenage:
8.13 (20th) Full democracy

Research & Developments spending :c5science:
$55.8 billion (PPP) (5th)
3.74% of GDP (PPP)

Religion :c5faith:
No religion: 46.5%
Buddhism: 22.8%
Protestantism: 18.3%
Roman Catholicism: 10.9%
Other Religions: 1.7%​




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Democratic People's Republic of Korea [조선민주주의인민공화국] (North Korea)

Capital :c5capital:
Pyongyang

Population :c5citizen:
24,554,000 (48th)

Land :c5moves:
120,540 km2 (98th)



Economy

Gross Domestic Product :c5gold:
PPP: $40 billion (98th)
Nominal: $12.4 billion (125th)


GDP per capita
PPP: $1,800
Nominal: $506


Agriculture :c5food:
23.3% of GDP

Manufacturing :c5production:
43.1% GDP

Trade :c5trade:
Exports: $2.061 billion
Imports: $3.574 billion
Balance: -$1.513 billion
*Under heavy trade sanctions and embargoes from UN, US, EU ect...

Public debt :c5citystate:
No info - estimated $20 billion Gross external debt

Foreign reserves
No info

Economic aid
No specific info recipient
Mainly receives economic and humanitarian aids from South Korea and China
Other humanitarian aids are from UN, USA and EU​



Military

Firepower :c5war:
Global firepower index: 1.1754 (29th)

Military expenditure :c5strength:
No info​



Society

Human Development Index :c5happy:
0.733 (113th) high

Income Inequality :c5angry:
Gini Index: 31 medium low

Democracy Index :c5goldenage:
1.08 (167th) Authoritarian regime

Research & Developments spending :c5science:
No info

Religion :c5faith:
No Religion: 64.3%
Korean shamanism: 16%
Cheondoism: 13.5%
Buddhism: 4.5%
Christianity: 1.7%
*Vast majority are forced to religiously follow Juche ideology and believe in divinity of Kim Il Sung.
​



* % of GDP numbers may vary as each figures are from different years between 2010-2012


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For Greece, I decided to just go with modern Greece...

I know they had a great empire, and many modern nations were part of it. But I simply can't do them all :)

Also those of nations later went on to start their own empires :D

As I was compiling this, I was saddened to see Greece going under a tough economic hardship.

Greece in Civilization V



Hellenic Republic [Ελληνική Δημοκρατία] (Greece)

Capital :c5capital:
Athens

Population :c5citizen:
10,815,197 (77th)

Land :c5moves:
131,957 km2 (98th)



Economy

GDP :c5gold:
PPP: $281 billion (44th)
Nominal:$249.201 billion (42nd)


GDP per capita
PPP: $24,505 (37th)
Nominal: $22,055 (34th)


Agriculture :c5food:
3% of GDP

Manufacturing :c5production:
16% GDP

Trade :c5trade:
Exports: $28.31 billion (65th)
Imports: $65.5 billion
Balance: -$37.19 billion

Public debt :c5citystate:
$400 billion
160.5% of GDP

Foreign reserves
$6.324 billion

Economic aid
Bailout from EU and IMF recipient ​



Military

Firepower :c5war:
Global firepower index: 1.6527 (49th)

Military expenditure :c5strength:
Nominal: $6.539 billion (31st)
2.5% of GDP​



Society

Human Development Index :c5happy:
0.860 (29th) very high

Income Inequality :c5angry:
Gini Index: 33 medium low

Democracy Index :c5goldenage:
7.65 (33th) Flawed democracy

Research & Developments spending :c5science:
$1.7 billion (PPP) (39th)
0.6% of GDP (PPP)

Religion :c5faith:
Orthodoxy: 94%
No Religion: 4%
Islam: 1.3%
Other Religions: 0.7%​



* % of GDP numbers may vary as each figures are from different years between 2010-2012


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I will upload China(PRC+Taiwan), Japan, France, Germany and Ottomans(Turkey) tomorrow.

I'm still wondering what to do with;

Rome (All those Mediterranean territories!!!)

England and Celts (should I combine them into UK?)

Carthage (Tunis + Algiers maybe?)

Arabia (Saudi Arabia + so many other Arab nations...)

ect...

I can't even imagine what to do with the Huns :D


Anyway, please let me know of any errors and feel free to comment!

Cheers

 
Fantastic work :D. Must've taken a lot of effort.

On England and Scotland, just combine them into one nation. We aren't independent unless people vote yes, so we're still one nation.
 
Jaymax said:
Fantastic work :D. Must've taken a lot of effort.

On England and Scotland, just combine them into one nation. We aren't independent unless people vote yes, so we're still one nation.
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Agree. Just make the Celts represent Ireland.
 
Do you realise with what little understanding the real world is ruled, my friends? It may look in order, but it isn`t.

They`re all almost as bad as the AI.
 
phos_hilaron said:
enjoyed it! I found it interesting.
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Thanks, some countries don't publish these international stats *cough* North Korea *cough* and it was bit annoying to leave it as blank :)

Jaymax said:
Fantastic work :D. Must've taken a lot of effort.

On England and Scotland, just combine them into one nation. We aren't independent unless people vote yes, so we're still one nation.
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otaman1 said:
Agree. Just make the Celts represent Ireland.
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Alright, I will do England -> UK :) (What's gonna happen in 2014 Scotland though?)

Celts -> Republic of Ireland :D

Socratatus said:
Do you realise with what little understanding the real world is ruled, my friends? It may look in order, but it isn`t.

They`re all almost as bad as the AI.
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Nice quote from the pope there - forgot which one :)

Of course the real world is much more complicated and can not be represented with a few statistics, but this post can still be used to paint a general picture of how they are doing as a nation.




Anyway... so, nobody has problems with the *global firepower index* or the *democracy index*???

I was worried people might have problem with theses figures. :)

For example, Greece doesn't have full democracy, it's considered to be flawed :crazyeye:
 
For Manpower, you should add the active soldiers, and the ones in reserve so that way we know how many soldiers each nation has both active and in reserve
 
otaman1 said:
For Manpower, you should add the active soldiers, and the ones in reserve so that way we know how many soldiers each nation has both active and in reserve
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Yep. It's already included in the *global firepower index*

http://www.globalfirepower.com/ - you can visit their site and see how they come up with the index. :)

They use a whole lot more of data to calculate the index.



Strategist83 said:
Who has unlocked the most social policies?
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Unfortunately, :c5culture: is something I really wanted to include on the list, but just could not find a way to quantify and measure.

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"Measure what is measurable, and make measurable what is not so."
--Galileo

Sorry Galileo... I have failed you :D
 
PrideDefiler said:
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*Nope*
Have England represent England (or Britain, whichever suits) but the Celts are meant to represent the 6 Celtic nations:
Scotland
Wales
Ireland
Isle of Man
Cornwall
& The Channel Islands.

Now, obviously the last 2 are too small to find, but please at the very least combine Wales, Scotland and the Rep. of Ireland.
 

Now it's China...

Both People's Republic of China (PRC) and Republic of China (ROC) will be its successor nations.

PRC - Mainland China with one party communist system.

ROC - Island China of Taiwan with multiparty democracy.




China in Civilization V



People's Republic of China [中华人民共和国] (China)

Capital :c5capital:
Beijing

Population :c5citizen:
1,353,821,000 (1st)

Land :c5moves:
9,706,961 km2 (4th)



Economy

Gross Domestic Product :c5gold:
PPP: $12.405 trillion (2nd)
Nominal: $8.227 trillion (2nd)


GDP per capita
PPP: $9,161 (91st)
Nominal: $6,075[ (90th)


Agriculture :c5food:
10.1% of GDP

Manufacturing :c5production:
45.3% GDP

Trade :c5trade:
Exports: $2.021 trillion (1st)
Imports: $1.78 trillion (2nd)
Balance: $241 billion

Public debt :c5citystate:
$1.822 trillion
22.15% of GDP

Foreign reserves
$3.44 trillion

Economic aid
$1.4 billion recipient
​


Military

Firepower :c5war:
Global firepower index: 0.3351 (3rd)

Military expenditure :c5strength:
PPP: $249 billion (2nd)
Nominal: $166 billion (2nd)
2.0% of GDP​



Society

Human Development Index :c5happy:
0.699 (101st) medium

Income Inequality :c5angry:
Gini Index: 47.4 very high

Democracy Index :c5goldenage:
3.00 (142nd) Authoritarian regime

Research & Developments spending :c5science:
$269.8 billion (PPP) (2nd)
1.97% of GDP (PPP)

Religion :c5faith:
No Religion: 42%
Folk Religions and Taoism: 30%
Buddhism: 18%
Christianity: 4%
Other Religions: 4%
Islam: 2%
​




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Republic of China [中華民國] (Taiwan)

Capital :c5capital:
Taipei

Population :c5citizen:
23,340,136 (50th)

Land :c5moves:
36,193 km2 (136th)



Economy

Gross Domestic Product :c5gold:
PPP: $903.469 (20th)
Nominal: $473.971 billion (27th)


GDP per capita
PPP: $38,749 (19th)
Nominal: $20,328 (39th)


Agriculture :c5food:
1.6% of GDP

Manufacturing :c5production:
29.2% GDP

Trade :c5trade:
Exports: $307 billion (18th)
Imports: $279.2 billion (16th)
Balance: $27.8 billion

Public debt :c5citystate:
$201 billion
42.4% of GDP

Foreign reserves
$406 billion

Economic aid
No info
​



Military

Firepower :c5war:
Global firepower index: 0.8632 (18th)

Military expenditure :c5strength:
Nominal: $10.7 billion (20th)​



Society

Human Development Index :c5happy:
0.882(22nd) very high

Income Inequality :c5angry:
Gini Index: 34.2 medium low

Democracy Index :c5goldenage:
7.57 (35th) Flawed democracy

Research & Developments spending :c5science:
$19 billion (13th)
2.3% of GDP

Religion :c5faith:
Buddhism: 35.1%
Taoism: 33%
No Religion: 18.7%
Christianity: 3.9%
Yiguandao: 3.5%
Tiendery: 2.2%
Other Religions: 2.4%
Miledadao: 1.1%
Liism: 0.8%​



* % of GDP numbers may vary as each figures are from different years between 2010-2012


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It's very interesting.
What does it mean "no religion" ?
Does "no religion" is atheism ?
 
orikos said:
It's very interesting.
What does it mean "no religion" ?
Does "no religion" is atheism ?
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You'd just answered your own question.

@josh. How is that gonna work? England today, consist of Scotland, Wales, England, and Northern Ireland. The Celts are strongly misrepresented in CiV. They do not represent any modern civ, but take in consider that England had conquered Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, that means the Celts must represent the Rep. of Ireland. Plus, this is 2013, not 15whatever
 
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