Peace Theme Elimination Thread

Arabia - 25
Assyria - 4
Byzantium - 23
China - 18
Dutch - 27
England - 25+1=26
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 16
Poland - 27
Portugal - 5-3=2
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden -27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 20

England: Just because.

Portugal: Agree with jon.

Portugal is in danger! I will do my part to keep it alive!
There's something off about the Assyrian music... I dunno, the drum beats sound off to me when they start. Maybe it's just me but whatever.

Arabia - 25
Assyria - 4-3=1
Byzantium - 23
China - 18
Dutch - 27
England - 26
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 16
Poland - 27
Portugal - 2+1=3
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden -27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 20

Arabia - 25
Assyria - -2 [ELIMINATED]
Byzantium - 23
China - 18
Dutch - 27
England - 26
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 16
Poland - 27
Portugal - 4
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden -27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 20

Portugal is still the best peace theme here, whilst Assyria is just annoying, and is thus promptly eliminated.

Assyria lands 17th!

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 23
China - 19 Gets an upvote.
Dutch - 27
England - 26
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 16
Poland - 27
Portugal - 1 Still the least good of the remaining ones.
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden -27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 20

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 23
China - 19
Dutch - 27
England - 26
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 16
Poland - 27
Portugal - 1+1=2
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden -27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 20-3=17

Am I being stubborn? Perhaps, but I do feel obliged to at least try the impossible.

Zulu gets a downvote because I need to downvote one. I'll probably alternate between this and China's.

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 23
China - 19
Dutch - 27
England - 26
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 13
Poland - 27
Portugal - 3
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden -27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 17

Portugal I've explained enough times, whilst Persia's song still irriatates me.

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 23-3=20
China - 19
Dutch - 27
England - 26
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 13
Poland - 27
Portugal - 3+1=4
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 17

Time for a timely intervention (lol) to put Portugal back at a safe position.

I've played Byzantium a few times over the years and every time I start the game I feel that the theme is way too dark to be a peace theme. (It's still at 20, should be okay for a while.)

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 20
China - 19
Dutch - 27
England - 26-3=23
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 13
Poland - 27+1=28
Portugal - 4
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 17

Poland to me just feels pleasant. The music stirs interest in my head, and I always am a bit happy that Casimir is in my current game when I hear it.

England... at first I really liked the theme, but then... I don't know, it doesn't sound so much regal as pompous to me now. The grandioseness sounds somehow overblown in a way. It doesn't really convey peace or the strength of an empire to me, it feels too bombastic. Strange to say about this particular piece, I know, but that's just my impression after a while of listening to it.

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 20
China - 20 Good enough to get an upvote back to 20
Dutch - 27
England - 23
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 13
Poland - 28
Portugal - 1 Still the least good of the remaining themes.
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 17

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 20
China - 20
Dutch - 27
England - 23
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 10
Poland - 28
Portugal - 2
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 17

See my previous comments on Portugal and Persia.

Kullervo said:

England... at first I really liked the theme, but then... I don't know, it doesn't sound so much regal as pompous to me now. The grandioseness sounds somehow overblown in a way. It doesn't really convey peace or the strength of an empire to me, it feels too bombastic. Strange to say about this particular piece, I know, but that's just my impression after a while of listening to it.

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Perhaps you should offer that feedback to the Gustav Holst society?

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 20
China - 20
Dutch - 24
England - 23
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 10
Poland - 28
Portugal - 2
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 18

Downvote Dutch. Way to "big" for my taste! Makes me turn music off.

Upvote Zulu. It's fit's Shaka perfectly in every way! Maybe not no1, but it's deserves to be top 5!

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 20-3=17
China - 20
Dutch - 24
England - 23
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 10
Poland - 28
Portugal - 2+1=3
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 18

Let's see how long Portugal can survive
Byzantium - same reason as last time, but I'll pick something else in my next vote.

Walter R said:

Perhaps you should offer that feedback to the Gustav Holst society?

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I'm not fond of all Holst pieces, so while I hardly see the need to trouble them with my meager opinion, I could, I suppose.

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 17
China - 20
Dutch - 25 Good enough for an upvote
England - 23
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 10
Poland - 28
Portugal - 0 ELIMINATED (#16) The tribe has spoken, it's time for you to go.
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 18

Welp, there goes the best theme.

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 17
China - 20
Dutch - 25
England - 24
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 7
Poland - 28
Shoshone - 24
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 18

Persia is still annoying me, so I'm clobbering it.

England's theme isn't the objectively best here in my opinion, but they're lagging a wee bit compared to some of the others so I'll give them a boost.

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 17-3=14
China - 20
Dutch - 25
England - 24
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 7
Poland - 28
Shoshone - 24+1=25
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 18

Byzantium - Too dark.
Shoshone - Bumping up a little. Such an epic piece.

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 14
China - 20
Dutch - 25
England - 24
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 7-3=4
Poland - 28
Shoshone - 25+1=26
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27
Venice - 27
Zulu - 18

Shoshone: "O'er thar in thet creekbed I found uh cuple of Shoshone arrowheads." -The Farmer from Napoleon Dynamite

Hey, even he approved of the song.

Persia: It's awesome, but not good enough to stay.

Arabia - 25
Byzantium - 14-3= 11
China - 20
Dutch - 25
England - 24
Ethiopia - 23
Indonesia - 22
Mongolia - 27
Persia - 4
Poland - 28
Shoshone - 26
Spain - 27
Sweden - 27+1=28
Venice - 27
Zulu - 18

Sweden: Well, I'm feeling a little bit nationalistic today, and how about Sweden gets to share high points with Poland?

Oh, right, this is my first points towards Sweden so I will give my reasons! Ahem. The beginning gives you the warm inviting feeling when you first step into Gustavus's quarters, complete with the cozy fireplace. The flute "singing" the first part (Du gamla, du fria, du fjällhöga nord) represents his somewhat jolly persona in the game (until you slap his city states, then it's all war from there). I can even imagine doing a happy little tap dance during that part even!

And at around the 0:33 mark where the remix kicks in, that's where it symbolizes when Sweden was moving on to become a "big power" and become influential with many neighbours despite following Protestantism. But having good connections with most German states would lead to a steady trading economy. Things are getting along nicely at this point. Sweden was moving onto prosperity! Friendship! Inventions!

And nearing the later parts of the song, it just kicks into an immense glamour and bombastic feel, it really hammers down the lyrics of the song about how much B-E-T-T-E-R Sweden is than any other country. We were great!

And when it gives that calming little end with the violin/fiddle, you can just feel that gustavus has done a good job representing peace and will now kick back to read a good book in the evening in front of his cozy fireplace.

"JA, JAG VILL LEVA JAG VILL DÖ I NORDEN!"

Sorry, I got a little bit carried away. It's a beautiful peace, and Geoff Knorr and Michael Curran did an utterly splendid job remixing it into this game. Hats off to those guys!

Byzantium: Hagia Sophia, Hagia Sophia... Oh, excuse me, did you say Hagia Sophia? I think we've had enough Hagia Sophia-ing now.

Okay, it's still soothing and have a good impression of power, but the other themes on the list are stronger. Sorry.