Alright, let's duel. I love a good debate.
Originally posted by Silent Assassin
Trip,
Zouave didn't attack anyone here infact the thread was practicly addressed to him as far as I can see he was defending himself.
Is it possible that people like you attacking him all the time is why he is like this?
I was addressing the comments he was making and offered a suggestion and he shrugged me off as "lecturing", and said that I don't "deserve further response". Look at my first post. Read it. Where in it do I attack him? Not one spot. If he wants to reply in a rude manner then that's his business. But don't expect anything but the same from me. I'm exactly the person towards you as you show to me, amplified twice over.
Look at the tone of my first post to him. Read it twice if you have to. Then read his response. Notice a difference? Post 1 = "this is why it is, and this is how you can avoid the problem. You're upsetting a lot of people the way it is now and this is how you can change that". Post 2 = "screw you I don't care".
now you said "it's clear that you're more interested in arguing and whining about things than getting the problems with Civ 3 resolved"
what else can he or anyone else do to get things resolved we have posted in the forums and emailed Firaxis and with the addition of each new patch we find more things wrong
It won't be resolved. Jeff Morris at Firaxis
stated that culture flipping
would not be changed in any way. With a statement like that why would someone want to continue? The lead designer of the game has flatly stated something that won't change, and yet someone
continuously complains about it. For what purpose? No one at Firaxis is listening anymore. Telling us over and again doesn't help anything either. After eight months or more, you'd think Firaxis would have changed things if they were going to.
personally I and im sure countless others Agree with him
You mean countless others dislike culture-flipping? Of course. I'm one of them. I just think there's a better way to go about dealing with the problem, and his attitude turns off more people to the issue than he helps bring to his side.
Trip as you said your self CF sucks what have you done about it other then attack people that are trying to get enough people to make some noise so Firaxis will change it
You state again that I attacked him. Show me where I did.
I've spoken with many members of the Firaxis team multiple times on this issue, and gotten the same response:
it won't change.
What have I done about changing culture-flipping? Becoming involved, talking with the team and
making sure I understand the issue thoroughly. I've done nothing lately because there's no point. I repeat, the
head designer of the game firmly stated that nothing would change. Nothing short of firing half of the development team will change things. And what are the odds of that happening? I assure you that continual complaining about culture-flipping won't result in that.
as for being arrogant you are the one that attacked him correct me if im wrong but this is a public forum which means he or anyone else can criticize Firaxis if he wants to.
maybe its time for people to back off you don't have to agree with him
Once again, I ask you to read my first post, then read his response. Point out places where I attack him. Quote me. I can point out places in his response that shows the rude and arrogant tone I recieved from what he said.
I told him not to call people 'fanboys' that disagree with him. Is that attacking him? If I'm not mistaken, calling any thread that supports culture-flipping a "fanboy thread" is more attacking than giving friendly advice.
I'll quote some things that he's said
in just this thread attacking others or otherwise belittling them.
Definitions courtesy of Dictionary.com.
This is boring, these lame examples you cite.
Stop being a little fanboy Firaxis apologist.
Ouch, I think the attack-factor on those ones is upwards of 7 or 8.
If Firaxis didn't have critics keeping them honest you'd have likely gotten no patches.
Don't have to thank me; it's OK.
My my, that one is definitely a 10 on the arrogance scale.
Definition of 'arrogant': "Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance."
Enough of these feeble "examples".
And that one's gotta be an 8 or 9 on the rude scale.
Defintion of 'rude': "Ill-mannered; discourteous"
In re: to my post, after I offered some advice so that he didn't get attacked so often, I then explained why Firaxis had each element of culture-flipping included. No attacks there. Maybe my eyesight is just going bad and you can point such things out to me...
now i expect everyone to reply to this
Touche.