Kingpin says:
Are you there?
Simon says:
hey
Kingpin says:
How are you?
Simon says:
im pretty good, got an exam tomorrow, otherwise id have said hello before when you added me
Kingpin says:
No problem. Real life is more important. I won't keep you long.
Simon says:
how are you anyways?
Kingpin says:
Pretty good. Just got the kids in bed.
Simon says:
ah right what timezone are you in?
Simon says:
cos if your UK thats one late bed time
Kingpin says:
EST (GMT -5)
Simon says:
ah ok then
Simon says:
so whats up then?
Simon says:
if you dont mind me being blunt
Kingpin says:
I want to have a brief chat about a trade.
Kingpin says:
I'm wondering if there is anything else we can trade to you other than Alphabet
Simon says:
well you are quite a few techs ahead of us
Kingpin says:
That's all news to me because I never see the save games.
Simon says:
lol
Simon says:
from memory, you have hunting, myst, alpha, math, and then more
Simon says:
though quite what i cannot say for definate
Kingpin says:
Perhaps you guys do it differently, but I am no privy to that info
Kingpin says:
You see, here's the issue... we traded for alphabet on the condition we do not trade it to other nations... I don't know why we agreed to such a condition, but our leaders did.
Simon says:
well everyone has access to the save on cfc and i give general updates every turn
Simon says:
ah
Kingpin says:
So if we were to give it to you, we'd have an angry neighbour.
Simon says:
do you mind me asking who?
Kingpin says:
Well... I don't exactly have clearance to tell you...
Kingpin says:
But what the heck... it's GCA
Simon says:
lol we did assume that
Simon says:
especially as they had alphabet first
Simon says:
though we thought it could be the team that we hadnt met
Kingpin says:
lol. from what I've seen, you've got a group of very good players.
Kingpin says:
It doesn't surprise me that you figured that out
Simon says:
must be hiding then because ive somehow managed to play the first near 100 turns based on the fact i have most posts i think
Kingpin says:
lol. If you don't mind me asking, what kind of relations do you have with other nations? You never did answer that.
Simon says:
sorry about that but we were waiting for a reply in relation to the whole tech trade thing, it seemed a bit rude to send a quick note back saying how it was but then repeating what did you want to trade
Simon says:
we havn't met one nation yet
Simon says:
We've had a bit of difficulty speaking with some of the non english speaking teams- mainly BAT but we think thats mainly a language barried
Simon says:
*barrier
Kingpin says:
really...
Simon says:
from memory yes, i think its the one with buddhism-cant remember which that is
Kingpin says:
I have no idea.
Simon says:
i'll fire up the game
Kingpin says:
ok... as long as I'm not keeping you too long from your studies.
Simon says:
i'll probs go to bed after our chat so this'll take my mind off the inner workings of the armenian massace/spanish inquisition/balkan wars 1,2,3
Kingpin says:
Sounds exciting
Simon says:
it is and thats why i do history for a degree but it strangely isnt if you HAVE to learn it if that makes sense?
Kingpin says:
It makes sense.
Simon says:
whats your teams stance with the teams btw?
Kingpin says:
Not sure what you mean...
Simon says:
friendly/annoyed etc?
Kingpin says:
Ah... let me check the forums... I'll keep this scren up on my second monitor while I check.
Kingpin says:
For the most part, we are friendly with outher nations. I think there may be an exception or two
Simon says:
how come? just because of proximity?
Kingpin says:
Not that so much
Kingpin says:
Sorry... I'm just scouting our forums for some info...
Simon says:
no worries
Kingpin says:
Ah... there it is... GCA again... they just seem to be irritating our leaders for some reason.
Simon says:
oh, how come?
Kingpin says:
not too sure, to be honest.
Kingpin says:
Anyway, I've probably overstepped the bounds on what I can tell you.
Simon says:
its cool, ive been involved in 3 diplo chats today
Kingpin says:
heh
Simon says:
for 3 different games and you've said the least if it makes you feel better
Kingpin says:
lol. I guess that's why they keep me in a position of ignorance.
Simon says:
lol, so do your leaders not give regular updates?
Kingpin says:
Yes, they do. But since I am the ambassador to your nation, there are things that are not shared with me about what goes on with other nations.
Simon says:
weird i wouldnt expect my ambassador to do a very good job if he wasnt given full control of all the facts
Kingpin says:
I am given a fair degree of freedom to work with you, which is nice. I am chatting with you without anyone else on the team being aware of it yet.
Simon says:
so impromptu chats a big no no?
Simon says:
eek thats the majority of cfc diplo down the toilet then!
Kingpin says:
Like I said, I am given freedom to do this.
Simon says:
ah ok
Kingpin says:
Anyway, I am sorry we couldn't work anything out this time.
Simon says:
ah well i have civ open now....
Kingpin says:
Okay.
Simon says:
just we were talkin about something else so i didnt want to interrupt
Kingpin says:
ah, okay. go ahead...
Simon says:
you have myst, math, alpha, masonry, hunting and optics
Simon says:
74, 373, 448, 59, 119, 598
Simon says:
thats the beaker counts
Simon says:
optics i meant to say compass
Kingpin says:
ok
Simon says:
metal casting is 672
Simon says:
im not sure what techs you have after myst though...
Kingpin says:
Do you have anything else, other than metal casting?
Simon says:
no, we were beelining towards in the hope to have a piece of trading, which i assume we will do when we get there
Simon says:
myst, math, masonry and hunting for metal casting would leave you about 50 beakers in our debt
Kingpin says:
Unfortunately, your timing isn't working in your favor for this trade. Before we had contact with you we had an agreement in principal to trade for metal casting from another nation... I don't know who.
Simon says:
ah
Kingpin says:
We sure wouldn't want to refuse a trade like you are proposing, but it happened before you came along.
Simon says:
ok well thats all we have to offer for the time being im afraid
Kingpin says:
Well, let's keep in frequent contact with each other.
Kingpin says:
I am keen on keeping on good terms with a willing trading partner.
Simon says:
indeed, the only problem with keeping in contact now is that there will be little to talk about
Kingpin says:
You never know, Simon. We might find we have other things in common.
Simon says:
Indeed, are you able to tell us who is offering MC?
Kingpin says:
I honestly have no idea. All it says in my thread is "an offer of Metal Casting from another nation." You'll probably have it figured out before I find out myself.
Simon says:
ah ok, i'm slightly intrigued though- why did you need time to consider it if you already knew you couldn't trade for it?
Kingpin says:
I didn't have that information at the time. Sorry.
Simon says:
No worries, am still slightly confused how your team works tbh
Kingpin says:
Sometimes I wonder myself. lol It was rather pointless to lead you on for no reason
Kingpin says:
Telling you up front wold have served us better as well as you.
Simon says:
indeed, now i think we'll very much have to re-evaluate our plans
Kingpin says:
Again, sorry about that.
Kingpin says:
I hope this doesn't sour relations at all.
Simon says:
no problem, it wont sour them at all from my point of view but obviously doesnt help them. we dont get that +1 modifier from trades
Kingpin says:
Perhaps there will be opportunities to cooperate on future endeavors
Simon says:
off the record though--
Kingpin says:
ok...
Simon says:
is your being annoyed with GCA just a bluff or genuine?
Simon says:
its hard for us to not see it as a bluff you see- what with your trading
Kingpin says:
We're not currently planning an invasion or anything if that's what you're asking.
Kingpin says:
But the irritation is still there.
Kingpin says:
Why? Do you have something against GCA?
Simon says:
well theres the whole history of cfc/gca animosity
Kingpin says:
I have heard of that, even though I haven't played any of the previous games.
Simon says:
indeed, so the first turn we met gca there was some oldies saying 'declare war'
Kingpin says:
lol
Kingpin says:
All in good time, eh?
Simon says:
luckily i guess, they dont play the saves
Simon says:
even more so when they started kicking up a stink over us having a city near them and having it defended
Simon says:
in the end i moved one of the defenders away just to keep the peace
Kingpin says:
I don't know that I would have done that...