Science: Which branch of the tree do we want?

Black_Hole · Sep 30, 2004, 03:01 PM

After we get chivalry, which way on the tech tree do we want to head?
We could head to theology, education, banking, economics.
Or we could to engineering, invention, gunpowder.

What do you guys think?

Cyc · Sep 30, 2004, 03:05 PM

If we want to use our Samurais to their fullest extent, we should probably get Engineering right away. Other than that, I'm not real sure who has the Great Library and how much of a threat they are to us. I guess I'll check the Culture thread.

Black_Hole · Sep 30, 2004, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyc

If we want to use our Samurais to their fullest extent, we should probably get Engineering right away. Other than that, I'm not real sure who has the Great Library and how much of a threat they are to us. I guess I'll check the Culture thread.

education does provide universities, and I like universities

Banking and Economics are good if we want to bolster our income

P.S. I will have an up to date tech tree in a few mintes(800x800

)

Cyc · Sep 30, 2004, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_Hole

education does provide universities, and I like universities

Banking and Economics are good if we want to bolster our income

P.S. I will have an up to date tech tree in a few mintes(800x800

)

Good point. I would much rather take the upper Branch, as you say, after we get Engineering. The Wonders, universities, and the inexpensive Cathedrals are all worth going after.

By the way, you may want to make that 800 X 600 (or there abouts).

Stuck_as_a_Mac · Sep 30, 2004, 03:18 PM

@cyc- Ghandi has the GLib. He's on the other continent and is yet to be found.
I suggest we head to Edu. Samurai can serve as defensive units as well, i think (4.4.2?)
We might not need muskets for a bit, and the AI never goes for Printing Press (especially in Vanilla).
Head up the Edu branch.
SaaM

Cyc · Sep 30, 2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuck_As_a_Mac

@cyc- Ghandi has the GLib. He's on the other continent and is yet to be found.
I suggest we head to Edu. Samurai can serve as defensive units as well, i think (4.4.2?)
We might not need muskets for a bit, and the AI never goes for Printing Press (especially in Vanilla).
Head up the Edu branch.
SaaM

Oh, but the AI will go for the Printing Press, Stuck. And I don't mean we should automatically go for Gunpowder, but we should get Engineering so that our Samurai may use the full extent of their second turn on our road system. After that, the upper Branch sounds fine.

And I found the info in the Culture and Foreign Affairs thread, thanks.

blackheart · Sep 30, 2004, 04:21 PM

I would say engineering then head STRAIGHT for Military Tradition so we can get cavalry before everyone else. Cavalry will give us a big advantage and the AI usually never researches it straight away.

RegentMan · Sep 30, 2004, 04:28 PM

I think that engineering should be first, followed by a general path to economics for Smith's, my favorite wonder.

blackheart · Sep 30, 2004, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RegentMan

I think that engineering should be first, followed by a general path to economics for Smith's, my favorite wonder.

Why build when you can cap

invy · Sep 30, 2004, 04:44 PM

I think we should go for Democracy. We'll get Cathedrals (Sistine Chapel), Universities and great goverment for research and production. If we get 1st Democracy we'll easily research other techs. We'll probably have a chance to research Music (to get Bach's wonder).

I'm usually playing with democracy even during wars (set luxury to 30%) and research is usually faster then Monarchy (or equal) and corruption is minimal. But thats my playing style.

RegentMan · Sep 30, 2004, 04:47 PM

Why cap when you can build? If we rush for cavalry, Gandhi might add Smith's to his collection. With him building so many wonders, I don't want his fertile empire having free markets, banks, harbors, or airports.

Chieftess · Sep 30, 2004, 04:51 PM

Go with Cavalry after Chivalry.

Rik Meleet · Sep 30, 2004, 05:41 PM

Humbug. Go peaceful and follow the top level. Smiths should be our mid-term goal. Who needs war when you can have peace ?

TimBentley · Sep 30, 2004, 05:43 PM

I would say we try to determine what the AI is researching (probably theology before engineering, for example) and try to research something else. Or we could just head to military tradition.

blackheart · Sep 30, 2004, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBentley

I would say we try to determine what the AI is researching (probably theology before engineering, for example) and try to research something else. Or we could just head to military tradition.

I agree. Research what they don't have and trade for what we want.

Ashburnham · Oct 01, 2004, 12:00 AM

I think we should take the path of peace. Personally, I think samurai will be enough to handle the military side of things for a while. The medieval upper path is arguably the most rewarding string of techs in the game (cathedral, univ, bank, not to mention the wonders..). Give peace a chance!

Cyc · Oct 01, 2004, 12:06 AM

Yes, but make it the Bridge of Peace.

Engineering first!

Civman2004 · Oct 01, 2004, 01:37 AM

I alternate in my games between all out along the top and all out along the bottom, depending on if I'm large enough to push through to Industrialization, or if I really need to gain more territory. I think in our case, if we push the war against Rome far enough, Samurai will be enough to carry us through, so I say yes, Engineering, then straight through the top.

classical_hero · Oct 01, 2004, 10:01 AM

I do think that Engineering will be our next goal. I would say that we should try and get Invention before everyone else so that we can go for LW and get 1/2 priced upgrading. This will benefit our war effort. I would then try and make v-line for Democracy and try to get the Happiness techs and any tech that would give us a wonder. Then we should go for Military Tradition.

Civanator · Oct 01, 2004, 02:37 PM

We shouldnt gun straight to cavalry. We want to milk every turn we can to use our Samurai against our opponents.

Sep 30, 2004, 03:01 PM	#1
Black_Hole Deity Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,424	Science: Which branch of the tree do we want? After we get chivalry, which way on the tech tree do we want to head? We could head to theology, education, banking, economics. Or we could to engineering, invention, gunpowder. What do you guys think? __________________ Black_Hole Last edited by Black_Hole; Sep 30, 2004 at 03:22 PM.

Sep 30, 2004, 03:05 PM	#2
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	If we want to use our Samurais to their fullest extent, we should probably get Engineering right away. Other than that, I'm not real sure who has the Great Library and how much of a threat they are to us. I guess I'll check the Culture thread. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes.

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blackheart unenlightened Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 8,632	I would say engineering then head STRAIGHT for Military Tradition so we can get cavalry before everyone else. Cavalry will give us a big advantage and the AI usually never researches it straight away. __________________ Relax, it will all be alright.

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RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,852	Why cap when you can build? If we rush for cavalry, Gandhi might add Smith's to his collection. With him building so many wonders, I don't want his fertile empire having free markets, banks, harbors, or airports. __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here!

Sep 30, 2004, 03:18 PM	#5
Stuck_as_a_Mac Aptenodytes forsteri Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 3,937	@cyc- Ghandi has the GLib. He's on the other continent and is yet to be found. I suggest we head to Edu. Samurai can serve as defensive units as well, i think (4.4.2?) We might not need muskets for a bit, and the AI never goes for Printing Press (especially in Vanilla). Head up the Edu branch. SaaM

Sep 30, 2004, 04:44 PM	#10
invy Prince Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 459	I think we should go for Democracy. We'll get Cathedrals (Sistine Chapel), Universities and great goverment for research and production. If we get 1st Democracy we'll easily research other techs. We'll probably have a chance to research Music (to get Bach's wonder). I'm usually playing with democracy even during wars (set luxury to 30%) and research is usually faster then Monarchy (or equal) and corruption is minimal. But thats my playing style.

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Oct 01, 2004, 12:00 AM	#16
Ashburnham King Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 827	I think we should take the path of peace. Personally, I think samurai will be enough to handle the military side of things for a while. The medieval upper path is arguably the most rewarding string of techs in the game (cathedral, univ, bank, not to mention the wonders..). Give peace a chance!

Oct 01, 2004, 12:06 AM	#17
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	Yes, but make it the Bridge of Peace. Engineering first! __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes.

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Civman2004 Something goes here... Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 378	I alternate in my games between all out along the top and all out along the bottom, depending on if I'm large enough to push through to Industrialization, or if I really need to gain more territory. I think in our case, if we push the war against Rome far enough, Samurai will be enough to carry us through, so I say yes, Engineering, then straight through the top.

Oct 01, 2004, 10:01 AM	#19
classical_hero In whom I trust Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Perth,Western Australia Posts: 26,929	I do think that Engineering will be our next goal. I would say that we should try and get Invention before everyone else so that we can go for LW and get 1/2 priced upgrading. This will benefit our war effort. I would then try and make v-line for Democracy and try to get the Happiness techs and any tech that would give us a wonder. Then we should go for Military Tradition. __________________ Sola gratia, Sola fide, Sola scriptura, Solus Christus, Soli Deo gloria. Hallelujah!! Join the Multi-Team Democracy Game II. Ask a Young Earth Creationist 2 Creation Ministries International. Please join the CFC Fantasy League for the EPL & CFC Weight Loss Pact and get fit

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