TERM IV MSAV MILITARY REFORM BILL - 980 AD, Section 1B.

TERM IV MSAV MILITARY REFORM BILL - 980 AD, Section 1B


THIS POLL IS MULTIPLE OPTION, ABSTAIN IS UNDER OTHERS

This bill subsection 1B will call for the relocalization of

19 Grade B Units, 6 Grade A Cannons and 6 Grade A Samurais

to the Southern theatre of Japanatica on the Iroquois-Babylonian Border

15 Veteran and 4 Swordsmen will be localized in the pivotal region facing both Iroquois Occupied South Roman territory and the Babylonian Grapes of Wrath Region in our Southern Army. I will later poll if any vintage war should take place and against Iroquois or Babylonia, or in which criteria should be fulfilled for the MSAV to declare war on either of these. These will have some core Samurai and Cannon units. The plan is to sacrifice these non-upgradeable units in a Vintage War before these turn to old, and then retire the remainder in peripheral rim towns.

This is an ADVISORY POLL, in multiple option format, but the citizens may influence which enemy to focus on, where to locate the Southern Central Command and to call for extra forces to this Army Group.

EACH CITIZEN CAN SUPPORT A MAXIMUM OF THREE DOCTRINES, THE THREE MOST SUPPORTED POLLS WILL BE CONSIDERED AND ONE REMOVED.



Doctrines

West Coast Naval Strike and Gold Raid (Akkad, Nineveh, Ur)

West Coast Naval Strike and Grapes Monopoly (Akkad, Nineveh, Elippi)

Border Adjustment to Hairando (Akkad, Ur, Elippi)

Border Adjustment to Hairando, South Port Conquest (Akkad, Elippi, Uruk)

Conquest of the Grapes of Wrath Steppes (Ur, Elippi, Uruk)

Liberate South Viet-Rome (Pisae, Veii, Cumae)

Liberate South Viet-Rome and Silk Monopoly (Pisae, Veii, Cumae, Mauch Chunk)

Liberate South Viet-Rome and Expand Eastcoast (Pisae, Veii, Cumae, Cattaraugus)

Border Adjustment, Roman Province (Mauch Chunk, Cattaraugus, Pisae)

Expand Eastcoast (Mauch Chunk, Cattaraugus, Cumae)

Gerunshi Stationary Center Doctrine (Group units flanking Gerunshi)

Iroquois Naval Wonder Surprise (Mauch Chunk, Grand river and Salamanca, require)

Southern Star Naval Strike (Akkad, Nineveh and Babylon)

Other Doctrines, please specify

Abstain

Persoanl Preference is for Grapes of Wrath and Border Adjust Roman. Border Adjust Hai-rando was my#3 to signifiy that I could "accept" getting Akkad in a "deal".

is this just where to put troops not where to attack, good if it is bad if its war.

Viet-Rome?

a joke, since Rome is divided in two, and we want to help our Roman Province, not the Iroqouis Southern Roman Province.

I don't understand any of this...

What are we voting for ?

I voted to continue our campaign on Veii.

Wouldn't Rome be better labled "Korea"? As S Korea is, though not quite West Japan, is close, while N Korea might as well be more of a Province of China than Taiwan is.

Sir Donald III said:

Wouldn't Rome be better labled "Korea"? As S Korea is, though not quite West Japan, is close, while N Korea might as well be more of a Province of China than Taiwan is.

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It is reversed Korea, with the better half in the north .

Rik Meleet said:

I don't understand any of this... What are we voting for ?

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Yeah Provolution, I too am having a hard time understanding this and many other polls you've posted.

Edit: Nevermind, I got the gist from another thread. Part of the reason for my confusion is your mistitle in 1A: it says 1B in big blue letters.

Vote now people, a non-vote is national treason

I may consider boycotting future polls presented by members of the voting bloc boycotting or vetoing this poll in order to render it invalid. If these have questions about the validity of this poll, or its goal, they should read the discussion on doctrines and so on. However, I do see that some clustered elements are in denial of this line of thought and would go far in order to sustain the existing regimen with a leading bellsheep

Abstain. We have the IRoquois to worry about right now. Besides, I like simple polls.

The TERM IV MSAV MILITARY REFORM BILL, Section B1

7 Votes
Liberate South Viet-Rome and Silk Monopoly (Pisae, Veii, Cumae, Mauch Chunk)

6 Votes

Iroquois Naval Wonder Surprise (Mauch Chunk, Grand river and Salamanca, require)

Conquest of the Grapes of Wrath Steppes (Ur, Elippi, Uruk)
West Coast Naval Strike and Grapes Monopoly (Akkad, Nineveh, Elippi)

The interpretation of this poll would be that Liberate South Viet-Rome and Silk Monopoly (Pisae, Veii, Cumae, Mauch Chunk) is an established doctrine to be followed in the upcoming war. However, with 3 runners up with 6 votes and no navy to speak of, we may extend the conquest to Salamanca and Grand River. I will repoll the Iroquois Doctrine based on this poll prior to the first Term IV turnchat or ask Civanator to do it. In the meantime we go for Southern Rome and Maung Chunk.

About the Babylonian Doctrines, we will use the Conquest of the Grapes of Wrath Steppes (Ur, Elippi, Uruk) before the Western Navy is built, and when the Western Navy is built, we will poll between which of the first doctrine and the West Coast Naval Strike and Grapes Monopoly (Akkad, Nineveh, Elippi) should stand.
However with Leonardos Wonder in Ur, it is a simple guess.

But CT, simplicity is what has been killing the game...

Indeed, simplicity reduce creativity and participation to a few players, and lurkers and yes men are serving as applauders making the veterans feel good with their 3 option polls. I rather flatten the powerstructure and involve more people. MSAV will be a larger and more powerful organization thanks to that.

Provolution said:

Indeed, simplicity reduce creativity and participation to a few players, and lurkers and yes men are serving as applauders making the veterans feel good with their 3 option polls. I rather flatten the powerstructure and involve more people. MSAV will be a larger and more powerful organization thanks to that.

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But then there's too complex, which will drive away the casual DGers.

Which is why, the military is there for those that likes to be creative. The "simple" and "casual" DGers are free to vote war or no war, but when war starts, it is at least democratized for the ones with interest and time to analyze and present to the people on how to run a war. But you Blackheart, of all the people here, refuse to see this.

Provolution said:

Which is why, the military is there for those that likes to be creative. The "simple" and "casual" DGers are free to vote war or no war, but when war starts, it is at least democratized for the ones with interest and time to analyze and present to the people on how to run a war. But you Blackheart, of all the people here, refuse to see this.

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So... this is a plan on how to run the war once it starts? Wow, I guess I'm just not used to miliary personnel asking people what they want to conquer. If that's the case, good show and carry on.

Blackheart

If you had any military background, you should know that military command staffs generate hundreds of various contigency plans for every coceivable situation. Only great professional armies do this. Kids who like powerful cookiecutter units and tank rushes play computer games where such hypothetical plans are not needed. By setting military strategy restraints on ourselves, we make war objectives more interesting and harder to achieve. As soon as I formally take over office, we will also discuss casus belli criteria for every single nation, now that the defensive retaliatory doctrines are set in stone. I will do this jointly with the FA, as they have the final say in declaring wars. I have full respect for DZ, and he is like me half hawk and half dove.
This means another public multiple choice poll where people can vote their individual platoform, from which we extrapolate Casus Belli criteria. Then we poll criteria for ending the war, not just emotional criteria some anarco syndicalist agitiators try to whip up with their cry baby, Evita Peron-like jitter, hollow abuse of WOTP jingoism, slogans and shenanigans and blind Fabian humanitarianism - but a set policy carved in stone for adults by adults with the intent to create a solid and reliable policy void of misconceptions and word bending terms like abstain, WOTP and WTH.