Domestic: Coal City?

Should we settle 'Coal City?'

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 52.2%

  • No

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Abstain

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Total voters
    23
Zarn

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Should we settle 'Coal City?'

Options

Yes
No
Other
Abstain

Discussion Thread: controlling the coal: settler mission

Voting Type: Private
Lifespan: Next Chat

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Oh my god. If the President of our country doesn't know what 'other' means, I am just going to die. In the Shakespeareaneanean sense.
 
Abstain - Private Poll.
 
For someone who is currently civ-cd challenged (it's missing during a move) please provide a bit more context. Who is the neighbor? Are we also pushing a culture border at the same time? I'm inclined to vote yes but curious what's going on.
 
DaveShack said:
For someone who is currently civ-cd challenged (it's missing during a move) please provide a bit more context. Who is the neighbor? Are we also pushing a culture border at the same time? I'm inclined to vote yes but curious what's going on.
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The neighbor to the north is China. The neighbor to the south (and east and west) is Russia. The circled location would push back the border to grab the Coal. This is Russia's only Coal. I expect that we will rush a temple and a barracks in this city to make it useful and then will build a few workers to clear the swamp and hookup the luxury.

More history on the region: This was all India's land at one point in time before Russia and China (mostly Russia) destroyed India.
 
I'm pretty torn about this idea. It represents good strategic thinking, and for that it should be commended. But, I'm not sure we have the right to deprive Russia of one of the most important resources of the game. I think taking Russia's only coal would hurt them more domestically than it would help us defensively. So I'll have to vote no.
 
We could always give coal to Russia in a pity trade. I'm just wondering why this poll was private..
 
classical_hero said:
This should be public, since it is public affairs.
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Can you please direct me to the law that says public affairs polls must be public and not private?

Thanks - I didn't know we made this a law.

Wait. We didn't.
 
To be honest, I can't stand it when an AI civ wanders hither and yon to settle in an area far from home just because it is there. It peppers the globe and takes away from the realism of sovereign borders.

Plus, we are asking for trouble by doing this. Apparently it is too late to talk sense into those who have voted for this measure. So now that we have decided to meddle with Russia, we had better be ready to pay the price.

Oh, that's right. Many of us are itching for another war! Well, thanks to the likely results of this poll, you will certainly get your chance.
 
Donovan Zoi said:
To be honest, I can't stand it when an AI civ wanders hither and yon to settle in an area far from home just because it is there. It peppers the globe and takes away from the realism of sovereign borders.

Plus, we are asking for trouble by doing this. Apparently it is too late to talk sense into those who have voted for this measure. So now that we have decided to meddle with Russia, we had better be ready to pay the price.

Oh, that's right. Many of us are itching for another war! Well, thanks to the likely results of this poll, you will certainly get your chance.
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Not necessarily. This is a viable counter to the plan offered by MSAV to station troops everywhere in the New World, which would definitely ruffle someone's feathers.

Is it me, or is the proposed city location IN Russian territory?
 
blackheart said:
Is it me, or is the proposed city location IN Russian territory?
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This location is not *currently* in Russia's territory, but will be in 20-30 turns I think. About as close to being in as we could get as it is surrounded half of the edges of this tile.
 
In the words of just about any action movie ever, "I have a bad feeling about this". If we start making bases and stationing troops in the middle of other nation's territory, we're eventually going to get burned. Let's leave Atarashika to the Atarashikans for the time being.
 
Ashburnham said:
In the words of just about any action movie ever, "I have a bad feeling about this". If we start making bases and stationing troops in the middle of other nation's territory, we're eventually going to get burned. Let's leave Atarashika to the Atarashikans for the time being.
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We're already knee high in Starrie waste (for some reason, I say Astarikan instead of Atarashikan) waste. I would prefer a coastal city but this is the best we can get so far.
 
I voted no, bacause I had no explanation for the "other" option. I mean, it makes no sense in this Yes-No setting. Does "other" mean "Settle in the area, but not at the specified site?" Does it mean "Settle in some other site entirely in the New World?"

By the way, a Yea vote would require ROP with either Russia or China, unless I'm missing something...
 
Sir Donald III said:
By the way, a Yea vote would require ROP with either Russia or China, unless I'm missing something...
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Not necessarily, we should be able to land in Russia's territory and start marching toward the site. If Russia asks us to leave there is a decent chance we will be moved forward to the site as it is neutral territory.
 
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