Gelion's Civ 2 Scenario Ideas

Hey!
I've played Civ 2 almost since the moment it came out, but I never went into scenario building. I gave it a couple of tries, but never finished them yet. It would be good if some of the active people here helped me or gave me some advice. So far I have the following ideas and I'd go for making a scenario on either one:

- Solar System colonisation by modern nations
- 2nd Punic War (units and map already done)
- "2 Light-years from Tirol" a sci-fi scenario based on Robotech series (most of research/map/units done)
- Crusades (from 2 sides)
- Russian History:
1. Russian Revolution (there's alreday a very good scenario, BUT it lacks events and realism in terms of what was happening. I intend to fix that) - played by both Reds and Whites
2. Mongol Invasion of Russia
3. Chechen Outpost - a scenario focused on individual soldiers on the border with Georgia with Chechnya
- A real good quality scenario on the Cold War (many out there, few quality ones)
- Kaiser for FW (remake)

I just want to say that I'd enjoy making a "full scenario" i.e with new units, terrain, buildings and events (possibly techs). I did a couple of "placing units"scenarios in Original Civ 2 and did not enjoy it as much. I have Civ 2 Fantastic Words version (updated from Original Civ 2).

If anyone could work with me on any of these or make a post on what scenarios actually require that would be great.

P.S. I am aware of the amout of work all of this takes .

I should be able to give you a hand with it. I know a bit about scenario creation. You may want to ask Drug If he can do some Units for you or you may want to go to Apolyton and ask there.(Dont close this thread for mentiong Apolyton.) As for choosing a scenario I would probably go for the simpleist one if youve never finished making a scenario.

Thank you for answering
I think the Robotech scenario is fairly neutral and gives a lot of room for creativity so I'll start with that. I'll sure need a lot of help with "unit polishing". The map is also relatively small.

If you need help, just ask. I've worked one almost every aspect of Civ in the past year and a half, so I should be able to help.

I think my vote would be for the Russian Revolution. This topic has not been covered well in terms of Civ2 scenarios.

I advise you to read everything in the articles section first as making a good scenario is much harder than it sounds.

I'd love to do a scenario on the Russian revolution, but that would take a lot of time and will require a team of more than one person. I've studied it and I have some ideas about special units and unique events (like evacuation of the Royal family by sea - didn't work out IRL). If someone would like to commit him/herself I'd be very happy.

But as a start I'd like to finish the Robotech scenario (smallest to make and gives more opportunity for creativity) first and see how it goes...

I shall soon post whatever I have on the scenario and ask for your opinions.... Soon may be this week .

I would also like to see a Russian revolution scen. A tip for you, before you start, do as kobayashi says, read through the scenario guide articles. It is in fact harder to make good scenarios than it sounds.

I'll be around if you want some help

i can help with units,but i dont have much time, so it would be a bit slow
Gelion,a ti chto russkij?

yes drug nice name btw...both ways

Just a small announcement: I discovered the lost data I had on the Robotech scenario. I still lost the stories, but the saves are there. So far to do (list for personal reminder, so if you want ignore it):
- finalize units (stats and esp the graphics) - need lots of help with the graphics if someone could
- terrain and city graphics (good, but not does not fit the universe)
- buildings and wonders (1/2 way through)
- build cities and place units (cities already placed, terrain terraformed, map done)
- create and write events
- write up the stories (for events, introduction and readme file)

Thats all as far as I could work out what needs to be done... Eivind was I right or did I miss anything?

...the tech tree. It's an essential part of a scenario and the hardest thing to get right

Any news of the MGE upgrade btw?

And, what's robotech?

may be battletech?

Robotech is a cartoon sci-fi series made in US. The first one was made in Japan and then "Westernized". I used to watch it when I was little and still have nostaligic feelings about it.

Basically the scenario goes like this: 2010, Earth, Global War. An alien ship crushes to Earth and the fighting is stopped. People realized that aliens are much more advanced and that they need to unite to fight them if they come. The alien ship was a battle fortress. The aliens did come in 10 years with a goal to caputre the ship. And so the first Robotech War begun. If you are really interested here's the official website:
http://www.robotech.com/
Its a little childish now, but the battles and the mecha make this series worth watching . The reason I chose this is because that setting gave me much more room for creativity... Yeah Robotech is a sci-fi battle "soap opera". Unlike other Mangas it also emphasyses on the war itself not 2-3 "godlike" heroes. Many people fighting!

There's a Robotech scenario on the first war avaliable for download already at the CFC. Check it out...

Didn't try the update yet - will do today.

I was thinking to exclude the tech trees for now. The technologies will be there, but they will be given or can be aquired by events. I think its a good solution for a first scenario .

Again on Robotech I will provide a readme with history of the war for non-fans.

As for the scenario itself - 2 competing civilizations arrived on the planet to caputre "robotech factory" - Earthers and the Invid (hive aliens). 3 tribes of local humans trying to fight them of and kill each other. 1 race protecting the "factory". Locals, protectors and each race of aliens has different techs.
There will be hints on where to find the factory and when you do it will be tough to capture it...

Sound pretty cool are you going to use some of the music from Robotech in your scenario?

If I could get it, sure
I assume you watched it, right?
Do you know where I could get some mp3s?

If you did watch it I'll post the scenario history soon.

Im not sure where you can get some MP3s but ill have a look round.

Need help on graphics in this scenario if anyone could help....

I could give you a hand with units and city improvement icons if you want. I can get you the music as well if you still want it.

Thanks! That would be cool. I only have the intro music as far. I will post what I need as soon as I get back from studying...

Actually I need a lot of help with graphics
I can more or less resize the mecha images to get units, but what I cannot do is draw completely new graphics. Right now I need 4 styles of cities:

Invid - "insectoidish"
[tried to post pics here, didn't work, please go to this link and see pics of bases]
http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/SkullSquadron/Invidunits.html
The third base pic is really what I am aiming at....

REF (Robotech Expeditionary Force) - human
Anything futuristic/militaristic goes. Colors - darkblue, blue with some dark red and yellow lights... Bunkerish looks...

Tirolian - human
http://www.kent.net/robotech/information/masters_society.shtml
http://www.artemisgames.com/robotech/Essay/Tirol.html
This is how Tirolian architecture looks like. In many ways an old/shattered Roman/Italian Reneissance architecture with modern defense systems.

Zentraedi - also human
Any greenish/gray looking bunkers will do fine. In the series they are almost never on the planet surface and in fact mostly based in their ships. Also militaristic.

It is a lot to ask, but I hope you can manage it . Thanks in advance!!!

The theme of the scen doesn't relly matter as long as it's interesting to play and preferably innovative in some way (which is difficult considering the variety of scens already out there).

Post any event-related questions (i.e. about Macro.txt) here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96778

For events ideas see this thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=74528

If you need research, don't forget to also check the Civ3 forums.