Advertisement
Civilization Fanatics' Center  

Go Back   Civilization Fanatics' Forums > CIVILIZATION IV > Civ4 - General Discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Dec 26, 2004, 04:12 PM   #1
Civrules
We the People
 
Civrules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: US
Posts: 5,605
Gender: Male
Post Sid Meier's Civilization IV Info Center




  • You can discuss the Article and its information in this thread as well as giving me feedback/comments/suggestions etc.
  • This thread also serves as an update thread when posting new updates (to let people know when something has been updated).
  • If you need any help either with the thread itself, or help regarding some information about the game that is not clear to you, this is the place to ask as well..
__________________
Civilization: Beyond Earth will be released on PC, Mac, and Linux!
Civilization IV Articles: Civ4 Info Center | Final Preview: Filling in the Gaps (Posted on October 24th) | Hands-On Preview (Posted on October 13th). Pirates! Articles: Exclusive Insider Information Article | Pre-Release Information. CivFanatics Forum Info: General Forum FAQ | Forum Rules | Forum BB Tags.

Stand up for peace. Say no to war. www.occupypeace.us

Last edited by Civrules; Nov 06, 2005 at 09:43 AM.
Civrules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2004, 04:33 PM   #2
Civrules
We the People
 
Civrules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: US
Posts: 5,605
Gender: Male
Post

-Post Not In Use-

Last edited by Civrules; Jun 15, 2005 at 02:47 PM.
Civrules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2004, 04:34 PM   #3
Civrules
We the People
 
Civrules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: US
Posts: 5,605
Gender: Male
Post

-Post Not In Use-

Last edited by Civrules; Jun 15, 2005 at 02:47 PM.
Civrules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2004, 04:35 PM   #4
Civrules
We the People
 
Civrules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: US
Posts: 5,605
Gender: Male
Post

-Post Not In Use-

Last edited by Civrules; Jun 15, 2005 at 02:47 PM.
Civrules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 27, 2004, 02:54 PM   #5
Civrules
We the People
 
Civrules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: US
Posts: 5,605
Gender: Male
-Post Not In Use-

Last edited by Civrules; Jun 15, 2005 at 02:47 PM.
Civrules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 28, 2004, 04:22 AM   #6
classical_hero
In whom I trust
 
classical_hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Perth,Western Australia
Posts: 31,316
Gender: Male
There Civrules. I am drooling in excitement already. I just hope i do not ruin the keyboard. Just like the improvements made from each of the previous games in the series, it looks like that will be the case.
__________________
Sola gratia, Sola fide, Sola scriptura, Solus Christus, Soli Deo gloria. Hallelujah!!
Join the Multi-Team Democracy Game II. Ask a Young Earth Creationist 2 Creation Ministries International. Please join the CFC Fantasy League for the EPL & CFC Weight Loss Pact and get fit
classical_hero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 28, 2004, 04:37 AM   #7
Alpha Infantry
Makin Ya Mans Clap You!
 
Alpha Infantry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Detroit, Mi
Posts: 124
late 2005 early 2006?!?!?!?!?!?!
thats BS.
If this entire site worked together, Im sure they can build a civ4 faster than they can.
and probably better.
We have so many people that do graphics on here.
This has upsetted me, very very much.
blah @ Sid Meier, he's BS`ing.
Alpha Infantry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 28, 2004, 06:31 AM   #8
Civrules
We the People
 
Civrules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: US
Posts: 5,605
Gender: Male
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha Infantry
late 2005 early 2006?!?!?!?!?!?!
thats BS.
If this entire site worked together, Im sure they can build a civ4 faster than they can.
and probably better.
We have so many people that do graphics on here.
This has upsetted me, very very much.
blah @ Sid Meier, he's BS`ing.
Well, you also have to take into account that a lot of people believed originally that it would be released much later.
And also remember, that they aren't just working on one project... The team is doing a lot of things, from Civ IV to the Pirates! on the Xbox, to planning future big titles (not announced yet).
They are pretty busy people, under pressure from all sides.
__________________
Civilization: Beyond Earth will be released on PC, Mac, and Linux!
Civilization IV Articles: Civ4 Info Center | Final Preview: Filling in the Gaps (Posted on October 24th) | Hands-On Preview (Posted on October 13th). Pirates! Articles: Exclusive Insider Information Article | Pre-Release Information. CivFanatics Forum Info: General Forum FAQ | Forum Rules | Forum BB Tags.

Stand up for peace. Say no to war. www.occupypeace.us
Civrules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 28, 2004, 07:58 AM   #9
thatinkjar
Warlord
 
thatinkjar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 178
Excellent thread, Civrules. Neat, tidy and exhaustive. I've not seen a better collection of pre-release information in my nineteen years of living. Congratulations!
thatinkjar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 28, 2004, 08:32 AM   #10
Blackbird_SR-71
Spying from 85,000 ft
 
Blackbird_SR-71's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Centreville
Posts: 1,177
This is great. And you did a great job at organizing the information I can't wait until Civ4 come out
Blackbird_SR-71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 28, 2004, 10:32 AM   #11
dh_epic
Cold War Veteran
 
dh_epic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Seasonal Residences
Posts: 4,627
Come on, how long do you think it takes to make a game? Most game development takes 2-3 years, sometimes longer. Frankly, I'm surprised that the announcement came out in the spring and people are still expecting it by Christmas next year (about 1.5 years). I couldn't see it sooner than spring of 2006 (2 years), but I hope they prove me wrong.
dh_epic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 28, 2004, 10:42 AM   #12
Zeekater
hasn't been using drugs
 
Zeekater's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Belgium
Posts: 2,245
Didn't they say that they were already working on it for some time?
Zeekater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 28, 2004, 10:46 AM   #13
Blackbird_SR-71
Spying from 85,000 ft
 
Blackbird_SR-71's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Centreville
Posts: 1,177
yeah in the spring they said they were playing 4+ hours of multiplayer Civ4.
Blackbird_SR-71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 28, 2004, 05:10 PM   #14
Civrules
We the People
 
Civrules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: US
Posts: 5,605
Gender: Male
Hmm, I just noticed something.

There seems to be an issue with IE and viewing this thread.
However, if you use Firefox, you don't notice the problem.
With IE, the font seems to be messed up a little (it doesn't look like it is intended). But if you switch over to Firefox, the problem seems to be fixed. If anyone notices this, it's probably because of your browser or something.
__________________
Civilization: Beyond Earth will be released on PC, Mac, and Linux!
Civilization IV Articles: Civ4 Info Center | Final Preview: Filling in the Gaps (Posted on October 24th) | Hands-On Preview (Posted on October 13th). Pirates! Articles: Exclusive Insider Information Article | Pre-Release Information. CivFanatics Forum Info: General Forum FAQ | Forum Rules | Forum BB Tags.

Stand up for peace. Say no to war. www.occupypeace.us
Civrules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2004, 01:26 AM   #15
Alpha Infantry
Makin Ya Mans Clap You!
 
Alpha Infantry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Detroit, Mi
Posts: 124
Quote:
Originally Posted by dh_epic
Come on, how long do you think it takes to make a game? Most game development takes 2-3 years, sometimes longer. Frankly, I'm surprised that the announcement came out in the spring and people are still expecting it by Christmas next year (about 1.5 years). I couldn't see it sooner than spring of 2006 (2 years), but I hope they prove me wrong.
how long DO you think it takes to make a game like Civ??
its not like it has the best graphics and details.
the only reason my civ game look as good as it does is because I've downloaded about all of Pounder's mods.
Alpha Infantry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2004, 09:47 AM   #16
dh_epic
Cold War Veteran
 
dh_epic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Seasonal Residences
Posts: 4,627
I hate to break it to you, but there's more to a game than graphics. Creating the artwork is actually quite easy to do, compared with the work of importing that artwork properly, let alone implementing all those mechanisms that make it ... you know... a game.

It kind of reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons, where Marge comes across a real working Robot and says to Homer "See? That's why your robot didn't work!" ... Implying that Homer built nothing more than the exterior of a robot and expected it to just come to life.

Game development is real hard work, requiring dozens of people, overtime without pay, and literally years of development. More work and time involved than most movie productions, these days -- and less money.
dh_epic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2004, 10:01 AM   #17
skyline5k
Warlord
 
skyline5k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shanghai, the Middle Kingdom
Posts: 110
they COULD pay them overtime... if they wanted.

Remember that old saying, "good things are worth the wait" or something like that. Me, Can't wait!!!
__________________
but no , doh!
TeraScape.NETworks
skyline5k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 30, 2004, 06:38 AM   #18
warpstorm
Yumbo? Yumbo!
 
warpstorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Snack Food Capital of the World
Posts: 7,688
Quote:
Originally Posted by dh_epic
Frankly, I'm surprised that the announcement came out in the spring...
But Firaxis had said in the spring that they had been playing MP games for months...
__________________
"Perfection is attained, not when no more can be added, but when no more can be removed."
The opinions expressed herein are my own personal opinions and do not represent my employer's view in any way
warpstorm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 30, 2004, 06:39 AM   #19
warpstorm
Yumbo? Yumbo!
 
warpstorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Snack Food Capital of the World
Posts: 7,688
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyline5k
they COULD pay them overtime... if they wanted.
Not if the money isn't there, you can't. Typically game projects aren't funded with overtime rates in mind.
__________________
"Perfection is attained, not when no more can be added, but when no more can be removed."
The opinions expressed herein are my own personal opinions and do not represent my employer's view in any way
warpstorm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 30, 2004, 11:23 AM   #20
dh_epic
Cold War Veteran
 
dh_epic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Seasonal Residences
Posts: 4,627
Yeah, I guess I haven't counted on how far they are into development already. Call me a pessimist, but I consider the announcement that they're developing the game the start of development. Not because they weren't doing anything before that, but because it's not uncommon for game developers to have more like a prototype phase (even if they consider it the real thing). There are a significant number of companies who hit a certain point, and then have to shift the foundation slightly to accomplish other goals. But now I really am just being a pessimist. Call me a bit jaded

And not to get too off topic, but no overtime is pretty much standard for the game industry. You should expect to work 10-12 hour days and come in on weekends. In fact, it's so standard and accepted, that it's easy for it to be eroded into 16 hour days. (That link right there is a good one, if only for the level of contraversy and reflection that it prompted.) The software-games industry is really a labor of love, working for less than you're worth, with fewer benefits and more crises than something of equal skill/intelligence.
dh_epic is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Go Back Civilization Fanatics' Forums > CIVILIZATION IV > Civ4 - General Discussions > Sid Meier's Civilization IV Info Center

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Civilization IV: Info Center Ginger_Ale Article Comments 3 Jun 20, 2012 09:30 PM
Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Colonization Patch 1.01 KJ Jansson Civ4Col - Mods and Files 2 Apr 01, 2011 12:39 PM
2K Games Announces Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Warlords Capt_Scarlet Civ4 - General Discussions 178 Mar 25, 2006 02:07 PM
Sid Meier's Civilization IV Team to Appear on GameSHOUT Radio Captain Howdy Civ4 - General Discussions 59 Sep 22, 2005 12:07 PM
Sid Meier's Civilization IV Prerelease Information Civrules Civ4 - General Discussions 90 Dec 26, 2004 04:37 PM


Advertisement

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
This site is copyright © Civilization Fanatics' Center.
Support CFC: Amazon.com | Amazon UK | Amazon DE | Amazon CA | Amazon FR