Term 6 Foreign Affairs

DaveShack · Dec 31, 2004, 09:08 AM

Foreign Affairs Ministry

Minister: DaveShack
Deputy: nobody yet -- unless Nobody wants it :;

Current Projects:

Determine if the people still want diplo victory
Find out and post the current diplomatic state
Gather citizen input on a winning plan

Discussions:

none yet

Polls:

none yet

DaveShack · Dec 31, 2004, 09:12 AM

State of Diplomatic Relations

Last updated (Jan 7, 2005):
Last updated (1630 AD):

France

Polite previously Gracious
They give 7gpt (11) for previous considerations
ROP with Iroquois, ROP with Zulu, At war with Iroquois
Active trades with America, China
Target of embargoes (Russia+Iroquois, Russia+Babylon, Iroquois+Babylon). Trade embargo with Zulu vs Babylon.

Aztecs

Polite (was gracious)
ROP with America, China. At war with Russia.
Trade with America
Target of embargo Russia+Iroquois, Russia+Babylon

Russia

Peace, Furious (was at war)
They give 23gpt for peace (14 turns)
ROP with Iroquois, Babylon
MA with Babylon vs France
At war with Aztecs
Active trade with Babylon
Target of embargo between Iroquois and America
Embargo with Iroquois vs China, France, Aztecs
Embargo with Babylon vs Aztecs, France, America

China

Polite
Peace, ROP (10)
They give 102gpt (11), Spices (2), 56gpt (1)
ROP with America, Aztecs,
Active trades with Babylon, France
Target of embargo between Iroquois and Russia

America

Polite (was Gracious)
Peace, ROP (9 turns)
ROP with Aztecs, China, Iroquois
Active trades with France, Aztecs, Zulu
Target of embargo between Russia, Babylon

Babylon

Polite
Peace with us
At war with Zulu
ROP, MPP with Iroquois, ROP with Russia
Embargoes with Iroquois vs France, Russia vs France, Russia vs Aztecs, Russia vs America
Active trades with Russia, China

Zulu

Furious, at peace
They give us 3gpt for prior considerations (2 turns), 4gpt (11 turns)
They have ROP France, at war with Babylon
They have an active trade with Aztecs, America

Iroquois

Furious
Peace with us
They have ROP with America, Russia, MPP+ROP with Babylon
They have trade embargo with Babylon vs France, with Russia vs France, with Russia vs China, with Russia vs Aztecs, with America vs Russia
They have no active trades with others

Nobody · Dec 31, 2004, 12:08 PM

Daveshack, congratulations on wining. but the title is a little bland

DaveShack · Jan 01, 2005, 09:57 AM

Post 2 has been updated with the current state of diplomatic relations and active trades.

Summary:
We can count on France, America, and Aztecs to vote for us unless their relations with China are equally good.

Iroquois and Zulu are definitely a risk to vote for someone else. Iroqouis have an embargo vs China so might abstain instead if their relations are bad enough.

Russia would most likely abstain since they are at war with both China and us.

Babylon is a swing vote. Polite status with us so they would be willing to vote for us, but might abstain if relations equally as good with China.

Probable outcome
Tokugawa 4
Mao 3
Abstain 2

If we eliminated Iroquois and Zulu without worsening relations with anyone else, we would definitely win with 4 votes out of 7. If we get Bablyon at war with China without worsening anyone else, we would probably get 5 votes out of 9. Taking out just one of Iroquois and Zulu does not help, as it would leave 8 votes and still require 5 to win.

Sir Donald III · Jan 01, 2005, 11:01 AM

We could just elimiate Iroq and Russia and gift Russian Homelands to America and France to solidify their vote.

Provolution · Jan 01, 2005, 11:03 AM

I would rather gift America and aztecs, maybe Babylon and zulu, France is already nr 3.

DaveShack · Jan 07, 2005, 10:27 PM

Updated post 2

Russia, Iroquois, Zulu are furious with us and would vote for our opponent unless also furious with them.

Babylon, France, America, Aztecs are polite with us. France, Aztecs, and America all dropped to polite from gracious. We need to bring them back up to cement a vote.

Second in power is China with a clear lead over France. They are our opponents in the election.

We need active trades with France and Babylon to counter China's trades with them, preferably with us giving something per turn.

Chieftess · Jan 09, 2005, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Babylon is a swing vote.

So, Babylon is a swing-state... (countries are sometimes called states)
I wonder if there'll be any recounts.

Nobody · Jan 09, 2005, 03:22 PM

lets just gift all our freinds, particulary babylon, we keep out of the babylon french war

Cyc · Jan 10, 2005, 08:50 AM

Minister DaveShack, after reading the chat log and reviewing the save last night, I have to say what a good job you did as DP. It is evident that the CoC works. It is also evident that you put the proper amount of time and care into each turn of play. Good job.

Ashburnham · Jan 10, 2005, 01:03 PM

Minister DaveShack, I was wondering what plans you had to convince Babylon to vote for us in a Diplo victory. I agree that we should increase trade with the Babylonians to counter the Chinese trade deals, but surely there's something else we can do to extend the arm of friendship towards our southern neighbors.

Dec 31, 2004, 09:08 AM	#1
DaveShack Inventor Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Arizona, USA (it's a dry heat) Posts: 12,217	Term 6 Foreign Affairs Foreign Affairs Ministry Minister: DaveShack Deputy: nobody yet -- unless Nobody wants it :; Current Projects: Determine if the people still want diplo victory Find out and post the current diplomatic state Gather citizen input on a winning plan Discussions: none yet Polls: none yet __________________ Democracy Game Revival DemoGame Social Group MTDG II - Mad Scientists Listening: "A king, in order to be a true leader, must listen with his ears, eyes, and heart, giving his people his undivided attention."

Dec 31, 2004, 09:12 AM	#2
DaveShack Inventor Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Arizona, USA (it's a dry heat) Posts: 12,217	Current Diplomatic State State of Diplomatic Relations Last updated (Jan 7, 2005): Last updated (1630 AD): France Polite previously Gracious They give 7gpt (11) for previous considerations ROP with Iroquois, ROP with Zulu, At war with Iroquois Active trades with America, China Target of embargoes (Russia+Iroquois, Russia+Babylon, Iroquois+Babylon). Trade embargo with Zulu vs Babylon. Aztecs Polite (was gracious) ROP with America, China. At war with Russia. Trade with America Target of embargo Russia+Iroquois, Russia+Babylon Russia Peace, Furious (was at war) They give 23gpt for peace (14 turns) ROP with Iroquois, Babylon MA with Babylon vs France At war with Aztecs Active trade with Babylon Target of embargo between Iroquois and America Embargo with Iroquois vs China, France, Aztecs Embargo with Babylon vs Aztecs, France, America China Polite Peace, ROP (10) They give 102gpt (11), Spices (2), 56gpt (1) ROP with America, Aztecs, Active trades with Babylon, France Target of embargo between Iroquois and Russia America Polite (was Gracious) Peace, ROP (9 turns) ROP with Aztecs, China, Iroquois Active trades with France, Aztecs, Zulu Target of embargo between Russia, Babylon Babylon Polite Peace with us At war with Zulu ROP, MPP with Iroquois, ROP with Russia Embargoes with Iroquois vs France, Russia vs France, Russia vs Aztecs, Russia vs America Active trades with Russia, China Zulu Furious, at peace They give us 3gpt for prior considerations (2 turns), 4gpt (11 turns) They have ROP France, at war with Babylon They have an active trade with Aztecs, America Iroquois Furious Peace with us They have ROP with America, Russia, MPP+ROP with Babylon They have trade embargo with Babylon vs France, with Russia vs France, with Russia vs China, with Russia vs Aztecs, with America vs Russia They have no active trades with others __________________ Democracy Game Revival DemoGame Social Group MTDG II - Mad Scientists Listening: "A king, in order to be a true leader, must listen with his ears, eyes, and heart, giving his people his undivided attention." Last edited by DaveShack; Jan 07, 2005 at 10:20 PM.

Dec 31, 2004, 12:08 PM	#3
Nobody Gangster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 5,320	Daveshack, congratulations on wining. but the title is a little bland __________________ "I'm Proposition Joe. You steal from me, I'll kill your whole family. " - Proposition Joe

Jan 01, 2005, 09:57 AM	#4
DaveShack Inventor Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Arizona, USA (it's a dry heat) Posts: 12,217	Post 2 has been updated with the current state of diplomatic relations and active trades. Summary: We can count on France, America, and Aztecs to vote for us unless their relations with China are equally good. Iroquois and Zulu are definitely a risk to vote for someone else. Iroqouis have an embargo vs China so might abstain instead if their relations are bad enough. Russia would most likely abstain since they are at war with both China and us. Babylon is a swing vote. Polite status with us so they would be willing to vote for us, but might abstain if relations equally as good with China. Probable outcome Tokugawa 4 Mao 3 Abstain 2 If we eliminated Iroquois and Zulu without worsening relations with anyone else, we would definitely win with 4 votes out of 7. If we get Bablyon at war with China without worsening anyone else, we would probably get 5 votes out of 9. Taking out just one of Iroquois and Zulu does not help, as it would leave 8 votes and still require 5 to win. __________________ Democracy Game Revival DemoGame Social Group MTDG II - Mad Scientists Listening: "A king, in order to be a true leader, must listen with his ears, eyes, and heart, giving his people his undivided attention." Last edited by DaveShack; Jan 01, 2005 at 10:07 AM.

Jan 01, 2005, 11:01 AM	#5
Sir Donald III Emperor Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,073	We could just elimiate Iroq and Russia and gift Russian Homelands to America and France to solidify their vote. __________________ This space for lease.

Jan 01, 2005, 11:03 AM	#6
Provolution Sage of Quatronia Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 10,101	I would rather gift America and aztecs, maybe Babylon and zulu, France is already nr 3. __________________ A fellow Quatronian and Sage of the Realm

Jan 07, 2005, 10:27 PM	#7
DaveShack Inventor Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Arizona, USA (it's a dry heat) Posts: 12,217	Updated post 2 Russia, Iroquois, Zulu are furious with us and would vote for our opponent unless also furious with them. Babylon, France, America, Aztecs are polite with us. France, Aztecs, and America all dropped to polite from gracious. We need to bring them back up to cement a vote. Second in power is China with a clear lead over France. They are our opponents in the election. We need active trades with France and Babylon to counter China's trades with them, preferably with us giving something per turn. __________________ Democracy Game Revival DemoGame Social Group MTDG II - Mad Scientists Listening: "A king, in order to be a true leader, must listen with his ears, eyes, and heart, giving his people his undivided attention."

Jan 09, 2005, 03:22 PM	#9
Nobody Gangster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 5,320	lets just gift all our freinds, particulary babylon, we keep out of the babylon french war __________________ "I'm Proposition Joe. You steal from me, I'll kill your whole family. " - Proposition Joe

Jan 10, 2005, 08:50 AM	#10
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	Minister DaveShack, after reading the chat log and reviewing the save last night, I have to say what a good job you did as DP. It is evident that the CoC works. It is also evident that you put the proper amount of time and care into each turn of play. Good job. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes.

Jan 10, 2005, 01:03 PM	#11
Ashburnham King Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 827	Minister DaveShack, I was wondering what plans you had to convince Babylon to vote for us in a Diplo victory. I agree that we should increase trade with the Babylonians to counter the Chinese trade deals, but surely there's something else we can do to extend the arm of friendship towards our southern neighbors.

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