You Set The Salaries

amadeus

amadeus

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In another thread:

Akka said:
Give every person between 5000 $ and 25000 $ according to his work, and THEN, yes, it starts to seem a good idea.
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Let's say this is what you were exactly ordered to do. You have to set the salaries for the following:

Actor (Movies)
Actor (Stage)
Actor (TV)
Airplane Mechanic
Artist
Athelete (Major League)
Athelete (Minor League)
Attorney
Auto Mechanic
Bank Teller
Bartender
Bodyguard
Cartoonist
Cashier
Clergyman
Computer Programmer
Computer Repairman
Construction Worker
Cook
Crane Operator
Director (Movies)
Doctor
Electrician
Farmer
Fast Food Worker
Firefighter
Foreman
Forklift Operator
General
High School Principal
Hotel Maid
Infantryman
Judge
K-12 Teacher
Legislator
Manager (Supermarket or Small Restaurant)
Movie Critic
Musician
Newspaper/Magazine Columnist
Newspaper/Magazine Editor
Nurse
Pilot (Commercial)
Pilot (Military)
Playwright
Poet
Police
President (CEO)
President/Prime Minister
Real Estate Agent
Refinery Worker
Salesman
Secretary
Security Guard
Store Clerk
Store Greeter
Stunt Double
Surgeon
Taxi Driver
Telemarketer
Travel Agent
Truck Driver (Freight)
Truck Driver (Hazmat)
University Professor
Writer (Movies)
Writer (Non-Fiction)
Writer (Novels)
Writer (Television)

I'm particularly interested in what our resident socialists have to say about this.
 
I choose to let the market and their job performance set their salaries, game over, I win :p
 
i understand the point that RM is trying to make here. I wouldnt be able to set salary for a profession. thats dictated by the market, supply and demand.

a possible exception i think is with professional athletes. As their salaries go up, (bouyed by rich owners), ticket prices go up, and fans like me get screwed, since we cant afford to attend sporting events anymore. skyrocketing salaries also cripple smalle-market teams (see major league baseball, a league with no cap on salaries, and compare it with the number 1 sport in America, professional american football, which does. its more exciting, has more parity, and is more accessible to fans).

So, my only beefs would be set a potentional cap on baseball player salaries, and teacher and professors making more
 
Bah, well it's all relative. Some of us may consider some jobs more important that others but the real answer is that Akka's system could never work since nobody would motivated to be their best as their is a cap on what they can earn. If human's were driven by acheivement rather than wealth then it might work but this isn't Star Trek. ;)
 
cgannon, that's been my observation so far. I deliberately included many different occupations because there's more than just what I describe as the "four year old's world" of doctors, firemen, and policemen.
 
Whatever there employer is willing to pay them, is what my answer would be. but since you want me to order them from 5000-25000 this is what I would give out.

rmsharpe said:
In another thread:



Let's say this is what you were exactly ordered to do. You have to set the salaries for the following:

Actor (Movies)15k
Actor (Stage)12k
Actor (TV)12k
Airplane Mechanic10k
Artist0 in communism we can't afford paint
Athelete (Major League)7k
Athelete (Minor League)6k
Attorney20k
Auto Mechanic16k
Bank Teller0 in communism you get no bank as you are too poor to invest
Bartender25k in communism everyone will resort to drinking
Bodyguarddepends on if he is protecting me or not
Cartoonist6k
Cashier0 in communism government runs cash
Clergyman0 in communism you worship communism
Computer Programmer22k
Computer Repairman0 in communism computer repair you
Construction Worker17k
Cook8k
Crane Operator8k
Director (Movies)10k
Doctor25k
Electrician20k
Farmer0 in communism you don't eat
Fast Food Worker0 in communism there will be no food let alone fast
Firefighter0 in communism burning buildings keep us warm
Foreman13k
Forklift Operator5k
General25k
High School Principal20k
Hotel Maid0 in communism no one will travel
Infantryman25k
Judge25k
K-12 Teacher15k
Legislator0 in communism our great leader rules everything
Manager (Supermarket or Small Restaurant)5k
Movie Critic0 all movies will be about the greatness of communism and everyone will love movie
Musician5k
Newspaper/Magazine Columnist16k
Newspaper/Magazine Editor16k
Nurse10k
Pilot (Commercial)0 in communism there will be no commercial aircraft
Pilot (Military)25k
Playwright5k
Poet5k
Police18k
President (CEO)25k
President/Prime Minister0 in communism the great leader rules all
Real Estate Agent0 in communism there is no land ownership
Refinery Worker10k
Salesman0 in communism there will be nothing to buy
Secretary10k
Security Guard0 in communism no one will own anything worth protecting
Store Clerk7k
Store Greeter0 in communism everyone old enough to be a store greeter will have already been dead
Stunt Double0 in communism living is dangerous enough
Surgeon25k
Taxi Driver0 in communism there will be nowhere to go
Telemarketer0 in communism there will be nothing to buy
Travel Agent0 why would you want to leave communist paradise
Truck Driver (Freight)10k
Truck Driver (Hazmat)20k
University Professor18k
Writer (Movies)12k
Writer (Non-Fiction)0 because in communism we require fiction writers to make us look good
Writer (Novels)11k
Writer (Television)11k

I'm particularly interested in what our resident socialists have to say about this.
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I hope my answers are satisfactory and somewhat humorous
 
I only did it in factors of 5k, because I'm not spending that much time on this.


Actor (Movies) 5k
Actor (Stage) 10k
Actor (TV) 5k
Airplane Mechanic 25k
Artist 5k
Athelete (Major League) 5k
Athelete (Minor League) 5k
Attorney 25k
Auto Mechanic 25k
Bank Teller 25k
Bartender 5k (0k if I could go that low)
Bodyguard 5k
Cartoonist 5k
Cashier 5k
Clergyman 5k (0k if I could go that low)
Computer Programmer 25k
Computer Repairman 25k
Construction Worker 10k
Cook 10k
Crane Operator 10k
Director (Movies) 10k
Doctor 25k
Electrician 25k
Farmer 10k
Fast Food Worker 5k
Firefighter 15k
Foreman 15k
Forklift Operator 10k
General 25k
High School Principal 20k
Hotel Maid 5k
Infantryman 15k
Judge 25k
K-12 Teacher 25k
Legislator 20k
Manager (Supermarket or Small Restaurant) 10k
Movie Critic 5k
Musician 10k
Newspaper/Magazine Columnist 5k
Newspaper/Magazine Editor 10k
Nurse 15k
Pilot (Commercial) 15k
Pilot (Military) 20k
Playwright 10k
Poet 5k
Police 15k
President (CEO) 15k
President/Prime Minister 10k
Real Estate Agent 10k
Refinery Worker 10k
Salesman 10k
Secretary 10k
Security Guard 10k
Store Clerk 5k
Store Greeter 5k
Stunt Double 10k
Surgeon 25k
Taxi Driver 10k
Telemarketer 5k (0k if I could go that low)
Travel Agent 5k
Truck Driver (Freight) 10k
Truck Driver (Hazmat) 20k
University Professor 25k
Writer (Movies) 10k
Writer (Non-Fiction) 20k
Writer (Novels) 15k
Writer (Television) 5k

Hopefully that's sufficient.

Edit: Apparently CFC doesn't preserve spacing...
 
I'm surprised you took my thread that seriously. This really was more of a rhetorical question than anything, to challenge those with the most simplistic views of the global economy (actually not even that, as you'd find almost all of what I listed in any U.S. state, city, or other nation's province) to argue for their supposedly meritocratic system.
 
If someone ordered me to do that, I'll say "Screw you, first give me a shorter list or pay me"
 
Without reading too much of this thread - since it seems to be baited for something *sshhh*

I think it's better to break positions down by group. Pro-life jobs should be the max (doctors, police, firemen, etc), pro-science (particularly environmental or biological, as well as teachers/professors) also should be high, government leaders (the pay-cut should help break the corrupted cycle) higher, morale postions (athletes, actors, etc) should be in the middle, general industry should be steady, with entry level positons at the minimum.

A breakdown by position is absurd.
 
I think unemployeed insomniatics should get all the money earned from lottery tickets.

Take from the dumb and reward the lazy, that's my motto. :D
 
rmsharpe said:
I'm surprised you took my thread that seriously. This really was more of a rhetorical question than anything, to challenge those with the most simplistic views of the global economy (actually not even that, as you'd find almost all of what I listed in any U.S. state, city, or other nation's province) to argue for their supposedly meritocratic system.
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In other words, a troll?
 
Should be proportional to effort.
I ain't gonna give real figures because:
a) I'm not an economist.
b) I'm not aware of American currency
C) I'm unemployed.
 
Well one would judge the initiatives gained by the employee, and thus the salaries should be given to those one that come up with better ideas. In theory ever one should be given the same amount + if they have ideas that help the company, fair...I think!
 
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