King Knud of Denmark (3d-anim-era)

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The files are:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Denmark01.zip
http://www.civfanatics.net/downloads/civ3/graphics/Denmark02.zip

I suggest u to check other creations mine: King Gustav II Adolf of Sweden and King Eric of Norway

Civilization: Denmark
Bonuses: Commercial and Seafaring (Expansionist)
Title and leader: King Knud
Best/shunned government: Monarchy and Despotism
Agression: 04 (high).
Cultural group: European (I typed "American" for mistake)
Noun: Danes
Adjective: Danish
Colors: Darker Red (Catharge) and Red (Roma)
UU: Drott
Civilopedia entry: RACE_DENMARK

Denmark011.jpg


Cities:
Roskilde
Viborg
Hedeby
Ribe
Copenhagen
Alborg
Odense
Arhus
Helsingor
Fredericia
Hedeby
Herning
Abenra
Vejle
Hanstholm
Skagen
Horsens
Haderslev
Brondby
Ronne
Nykobing
Svendborg
Holstebro
Kolding
Horsens
Hillerod
Ringobing
Slagelse
Korsor
Silkeborg
Frederikshavn
Hirtshals
Hjorring
Skive
Naksov
Næstved
Korsor
Skanderborg
Hobro
Bronderslev
Thisted
Sonderborg
Vordingborg
Koge
Esbjerg
Lejre
Jelling

Military leaders:
Valdemar II Sejr
Valdemar IV
Swein Forkbeard
Harald II
Magrethe I

Scientific ones:
Tycho Brahe
Ole Romer
Niels Bohr
Holger Bech Nielsen
Jens Martin Knudsen

Civilopedia:

Drott, the UU:
Replaces Horseman, has one extra movement per turn, one extra offensive point and cost 10 shields more. They have used swords, shields, axes, blades and other light hand weapons and light armor.

Icon
Drott01.jpg


Default
Drott-Default.gif


Run
Drott-Run.gif


Death
Drott-Death.gif


Victory
Drott-Victory.gif


Attack
Drott-Attack.gif


Forfify
Drott-Fortify.gif
 
There were VERY few horses in Danemark. A UU horseman makes little sense.

The king should probably be Ragnar.
The skin complection is too dark.

Cultural group: American
HUH???

The danes were most certainly NOT american.

shunned government should not be despotism. Either communism or Republic.

Spell Knud as either Knut or more commonly Knute

The danes typically had a stronger monarchy then the Norwegians, since the Norwegian kings tended to be more aggressive and get themselves killed.
 
The only great "Viking" horsemen I can think of were the Normans. And it could be argued that the Normans were as much french as Viking, after having lived in Normandy for so long.
Nomandy means Northman's dutchy, btw. It was an appeasement gift by the French king to reduce viking raids on France. It worked reasonably well.
 
VERY nice! Like the ancient helmet... but I love the industrial rendition!
 
Yes, the Industrial version is good!

I have no problem with a Scandinavian horsemen - and the Normans *were* Vikings really, even if they lived in France - but I have to say that an ancient era unit with stats of 3 1 3 sounds terribly unbalancing to me. That thing would annihilate everything in its path!
 
Bjornlo said:
The king should probably be Ragnar..
Why? Canute the Great(Knud den Store) surely is appropriate for Denmark!? Reliable sources on Ragnar Lodbrok are scarce, it is difficult to separate facts from fiction in the tales about him.
Bjornlo said:
Spell Knud as either Knut or more commonly Knute.
As far as I know Knud is the common form of this name in Danish, Knut is Norwegian while I don't know what Knute is...
@CivArmy s.1994:Plotinus may have a point about the UU, it could be too strong, but apart from that :goodjob: :band:!
 
thanks for the feedback :) Remember we can config the UU power in its editor, it is hard to find good options, since the ever done units take them. I typed a error in the cultural group, I haven't seen the "American" instead the "European", but in game the option is right.
I listened for weeks suggestions of great leader and UU, from people of Denmark and other countries, the winners were Knud and Drott, the viking cavalry. There was another suggestion of mounted unit, the Hird, the middle age cavalry in Denmark and maybe 3 or 4 other suggestions to great leaders. Other reson to me choice Knud was he was the leader of the Vikings in Civ2.
 
Pounder said:
Great work, you are extremely productive.

For the life of me, I can find how to add the cities to the game, is it in a text file or in the editor.

There r a *.biq, *.bic and *.btx in this pack that came with the full city list. If u load these files, u will play with all the civis + Denmark (less in C3C, where Denmark replaces Iroquois). If u want add The Danish in other *.biq file u can just copy/past the city list present in the 1st thread to your file :)
 
Have to say that I don't think it looks too much like the picture I saw of Canute the Great when I was a lad, but it's a good choice for a king - only proper ruler we've had for a millenium, save for Margrete I and the Valdemars - also the medieval version is pretty good.

You might want to consider some other scientific leaders... such as say Tycho Brahe (astronomy), Carsten Niebuhr(explorer), Niels Bohr(physics), H.C. Ørsted(physics), P.L. Panum(medicine), H.C.Andersen(literature), George Brandes(literature), Ludvig Holberg(literature), Ansgar (missionary) or maybe Margrete the First (Kalmar union).

Harald Blaatand should probably be a military leader. Ok, he did put up the stones in Jelling, but save for that his role was as a war leader.
Christian the Fourth was a fat idiot and probably one of the worst kings ever.

As for military leaders consider Skjalm Hvide, Stig Andersen (marshall, probably killed King Erik Klipping), Peter Huitfeldt (went down with his battleship in the battle in Køgebugt but strategically defeated the swedes), Niels Juel (admiral), Herluf Trolle (admiral), Cort Adler (hunted türks for the venezians), Frederic the Third (lost almost all of Denmark, then won it back), Palnatoke (leader of the Joms Wikings I think), Ragnar Lodbro, Svend Forkbeard (have to restart that old tradition) and some of the Valdemars...

And spell Knud as Knud, like most danes do. He might have been called Knut at some time, but if you look in a a modern danish history book his name is Knud. .

Bjornklo: according to the wiking museeum in Roskilde one of the tactics of the danish raiders in England was to land cavalry raiders from the ships. And with rather good effect too...


And I recent being put in the american culture group...!!!
 
Important: In game the cultural game is "European", not American (like I typed wrong in the 1st post)
Important 2: just now the correct military and scientifc lists r available, they were correct in game before, but now in post number 1. My mistake again (the old list showed the 1st leaders list, not the final).
BTW, Wlambr, it is easy change the city list or leader list of any civ, just use the editor that cames with your Civilization 3 ;) There u can add the suggest list or remove that ones that u would not like to see in the Danes :)
 
I know mate, but the rest of the world might not know the list ;)
 
Wlambr said:
according to the wiking museeum in Roskilde one of the tactics of the danish raiders in England was to land cavalry raiders from the ships. And with rather good effect too...
This was the exception to their methods not the rule.

The key to the Danes success (in england and elsewhere) lay in the following:
#1: their fast, agile ships. Many times faster then the contemporary vessels. So much faster that warning could seldom get out in time, and the Vikings (danes and others) could assult a poorly prepared and poorly defended position with some ease.
#2: They were larger then most of their foes. All the scandinavians, as a matter of neccessity, had a more varied diet. They even had crude penicillin in gamle ost (special type of stinky old cheese). There was also genetics at work as well. Larger bodies might not be so useful in shooting a gun, but it was of considerable help in swinging a battle axe or great sword.
#3: Their weapons tended to be a little stronger. (Due to size (more metal used) and crude steel resulting from their manufactor method).
#4: Their cult-of-the-warrior had them less fearful and more ferocious then their foes.

There certainly were horses in Danemark, and the rest of europe. But horse work was not one of the special advantages the vikings enjoyed.
Speed, size, strength, and ferocity were their keys to success.
 
Looking good! :) I thought it had already been released though... :crazyeye:
 
No i wasn't confusing it with Eric the Red (it's him, right?)... And i really wasn't confusing it with Gustav II Adolf!!! Yeeesh! I'm a swede for christs sake! ;) :p
 
Hrafnkell said:
I think that the Jomsvikings might have made a decent Danish unit, or even Húskarls, since it is likely that they were instituted by Knut/Knud while King of England.

I agree. I think CivArmy s. 1994 idea to give the Danes a horseman as a special unit is a good one though. But, not as a UU, but as a either a civ flavor unit, or at most a 2nd UU (if 2 are used).
 
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