Term II - Consul of Resources and Technology Policy: Onward to the Middle Ages!

RegentMan · Mar 29, 2005, 05:16 PM

This thread is finally open!

Welcome to the Term II Consul of Resources and Technology Policy office.

Term II Consul - RegentMan
Term II Deputy - truckingpete

Term I Consul of Resources and Technology Policy
Term I Consul - Stuck_As_a_Mac
Term I Deputy - RegentMan

RegentMan · Mar 29, 2005, 05:17 PM

Here is 190BC. We are a "backward people" in the eyes of the science advisor.

Here is a listing of each foreign civilizations' known resources.

Terminology
hooked - hooked up to their road network
not hooked - not hooked up to their road network, but inside their cultural borders
in range - just outside their cultural borders

India
Nothing! Rien! Nada!

The Netherlands
2 Spices hooked
Iron hooked
1 Iron in range
At Least 1/5 Wines hooked

China
2 Gems hooked
Horses hooked

Persia
2 Silks hooked
Horses hooked
1 Horses in range
Iron hooked

Maya
Horses hooked
6 Furs hooked
1 Dyes hooked
2 Incense in range
1 Iron in range

The Byzantines
Horses hooked
2 Ivory hooked
2 Spices hooked

The Hittites
Horses hooked
Iron hooked

Japan
Horses hooked

Portugal
Horses hooked
4 Ivory hooked

RegentMan · Mar 29, 2005, 05:18 PM

Links to Current Discussions:
R & T T2 D6 - Ivory and Fur
R & T T2 D5 - What to do With Currency?

Links to Current Polls:
R & T T2 P4 - Ivory and Fur

Please add your opinion to the above discussions and polls. Fanatannia will greatly benefit from hearing its citizens' excellent ideas.

Below are our archives. Feel free to use them for reference or simply a walk down memory lane.

Links to Previous Discussions:
R & T T2 D1 - After Map Making?
The Dutch Have MM -- 1 turn till Philo
R & T T2 D2 - My Empire For... Philosophy?!?
R & T T2 D3 - Prepare For The Revolution!
R & T T2 D4 - Acquiring Republic

Links to Previous Polls:
R & T T2 P1 - Which Free Tech?
R & T T2 P2 - Acquiring Republic
R & T T2 P3 - Breaking the Tie

Stuck_as_a_Mac · Mar 29, 2005, 05:45 PM

Congrats on the promo, Tree Branch.
Oxford is still here for you. And don't mind me. Just stealing anything that isnt bolted to the floor.

RegentMan · Mar 29, 2005, 05:50 PM

Glad to have you here, Mr. Oxford Dean. I might be a consul now, but I will always be an Ominous Tree Branch at heart.

Going to get some discussion started!

truckingpete · Mar 29, 2005, 07:57 PM

Deputy truckingpete reporting for researching..

Here, Here for the Middle Ages!

Lets get researching Scientist RegentMan!!

- Deputy TP

RegentMan · Mar 29, 2005, 08:19 PM

Glad to see you as the deputy!

Needless to say, researching will be our middle name!

RegentMan · Mar 30, 2005, 07:51 AM

Screenies and discussion links updated for 1375BC.

truckingpete · Mar 30, 2005, 07:42 PM

I just like to say, I am going to be gone tommarow. I might not get on at all tommarrow. I'll be back the next day though. Going somewhere fo school.

Just wanted you to know.

- Deputy TP

DaveShack · Apr 01, 2005, 08:15 AM

Before we can proceed much further, we need to know how fast to research. Do we want to forge on full speed ahead, or go slow? Even though this might be obvious it does need to be decided.

RegentMan · Apr 01, 2005, 11:17 AM

Well, I need to know what the people want. Do they want more money to upgrade warriors/chariots for a war? In that case I would have to concede and let the slider drop. I always go max science in my games (or max science with a profit). Also, it depends on what we research. I need philosophy discovered and its free tech. Discussion shows unless you can do a republic trade sling-shot, then grab construction. Once we're sure what we want, I can find out where to go next. I imagine government is important so I've got to prepare for that afterwards.

Man philosophy is a pain in the butt!

mad-bax · Apr 01, 2005, 03:10 PM

Consul,

I have been thinking about the overall objective of reaching 130K.
I believe it in the best interests of the nation to reduce the overall tech rate in the game so that we don't face rifles and infantry, and don't have to worry about space races and the UN at all if possible.

Would you consider drawing up a policy that not only sets out research direction, but that also reduces the overall tech rate as much as possible?

mad-bax
External Consul

truckingpete · Apr 01, 2005, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveShack

Before we can proceed much further, we need to know how fast to research. Do we want to forge on full speed ahead, or go slow? Even though this might be obvious it does need to be decided.

Well in my games, I usually have the tech speed to make some money. So I'm researching and making money all the time. Every turn (almost every turn) I see if it can be rasied or lowered. If it can be made lower w/o makeing the turns go down, I change it to that. If I can raise and make money and 1 or 2 less turns, I do that.

But I say the citiznes decide...

- Deputy TP

RegentMan · Apr 01, 2005, 04:27 PM

Well, right now this is what I see happening:

*Finish Philosophy
*Get Construction For Free
*Research Currency
*Research Code of Laws/Polytheism
*Research The Republic/Monarchy
*Trade For Map Making Sometime

This is my personal tech choice. I still need to start a discussion about what government to get. Perhaps after the next turn chat we'll be in a position to go ahead and pick.

vikingruler · Apr 01, 2005, 05:26 PM

the way i see it is that we are in a prediciment. to win a culture win we need to be advanced to get the good improvements and wonders. to get that would mean to research high and forget an army. but without an army we can't expand.(dutch and indians are boxing us in and we destroy easily especially if we have no army)No expansion means no money, and no science output, no science output means no techs which means no culture win. so we need to focus on getting a STRONG army. which includes a lot of chariots for exploration? and a form of blitzkreig attack and the majority should be vet swords. my plan is to get construction and sell it as soon as the AI gets a lot of money. then either map making and then beeline for republic because of it's economic and scientific benefits or monarchy for there zero war weariness, and average economic, scientific benefits. I personally would rather get republic and take our chances with revolt on low ww. in conclusion, we get construction, sell it for tons of cash if possible techs, rush a military, increase lux slider to prevent revolt from whipping, the gold we accumualate from selling will cover the high lux and destroy the dutch while getting mm and beelining for republic.

blackheart · Apr 01, 2005, 05:46 PM

We need leading military tech to crush the Indians and Dutch before going for any culture win.

cavvie · Apr 01, 2005, 07:39 PM

This idea seems good but we do need to consider that the longer we wait to crush the Dutch and/or Indians, the more we may have to shift to a military mindset with our tech research in the early middle ages. This should also be considered, and I believe it already is, on other threads (with Dutch and Indian UUs forthcoming).

RoboPig · Apr 02, 2005, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegentMan

This is the term one thread. The term two thread is over here. There is currently not a list of other civs' resources but if you'd like, I could make one.

Thank you. It would be much aprriecated

RegentMan · Apr 02, 2005, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gulliver

Thank you. It would be much aprriecated

Post number two should have all of the information you wanted. Please tell me of any suggestions/comments you have.

RoboPig · Apr 03, 2005, 09:07 AM

thanx regentman, this will really help me keep track of the game

Mar 29, 2005, 05:16 PM	#1
RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,852	Term II - Consul of Resources and Technology Policy: Onward to the Middle Ages! This thread is finally open! Welcome to the Term II Consul of Resources and Technology Policy office. Term II Consul - RegentMan Term II Deputy - truckingpete Term I Consul of Resources and Technology Policy Term I Consul - Stuck_As_a_Mac Term I Deputy - RegentMan __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here! Last edited by RegentMan; Mar 29, 2005 at 08:18 PM. Reason: truckingpete Confirmed

Mar 29, 2005, 05:17 PM	#2
RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,852	Current Tech Tree/ Resource Information Here is 190BC. We are a "backward people" in the eyes of the science advisor. Here is a listing of each foreign civilizations' known resources. Terminology hooked - hooked up to their road network not hooked - not hooked up to their road network, but inside their cultural borders in range - just outside their cultural borders India Nothing! Rien! Nada! The Netherlands 2 Spices hooked Iron hooked 1 Iron in range At Least 1/5 Wines hooked China 2 Gems hooked Horses hooked Persia 2 Silks hooked Horses hooked 1 Horses in range Iron hooked Maya Horses hooked 6 Furs hooked 1 Dyes hooked 2 Incense in range 1 Iron in range The Byzantines Horses hooked 2 Ivory hooked 2 Spices hooked The Hittites Horses hooked Iron hooked Japan Horses hooked Portugal Horses hooked 4 Ivory hooked __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here! Last edited by RegentMan; Apr 23, 2005 at 07:45 PM. Reason: Updated Screenies - 190BC

Mar 29, 2005, 05:18 PM	#3
RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,852	Current and Previous Discussions and Polls Links to Current Discussions: R & T T2 D6 - Ivory and Fur R & T T2 D5 - What to do With Currency? Links to Current Polls: R & T T2 P4 - Ivory and Fur Please add your opinion to the above discussions and polls. Fanatannia will greatly benefit from hearing its citizens' excellent ideas. Below are our archives. Feel free to use them for reference or simply a walk down memory lane. Links to Previous Discussions: R & T T2 D1 - After Map Making? The Dutch Have MM -- 1 turn till Philo R & T T2 D2 - My Empire For... Philosophy?!? R & T T2 D3 - Prepare For The Revolution! R & T T2 D4 - Acquiring Republic Links to Previous Polls: R & T T2 P1 - Which Free Tech? R & T T2 P2 - Acquiring Republic R & T T2 P3 - Breaking the Tie __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here! Last edited by RegentMan; Apr 25, 2005 at 05:49 PM. Reason: Added Poll (R & T T2 P4 - Ivory and Fur)

Mar 29, 2005, 05:50 PM	#5
RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,852	Glad to have you here, Mr. Oxford Dean. I might be a consul now, but I will always be an Ominous Tree Branch at heart. Going to get some discussion started! __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here!

Mar 29, 2005, 08:19 PM	#7
RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,852	Glad to see you as the deputy! Needless to say, researching will be our middle name! __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here!

Mar 29, 2005, 05:45 PM	#4
Stuck_as_a_Mac Aptenodytes forsteri Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 3,937	Congrats on the promo, Tree Branch. Oxford is still here for you. And don't mind me. Just stealing anything that isnt bolted to the floor.

Mar 29, 2005, 07:57 PM	#6
truckingpete Sportscaster! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Dakota, USA Posts: 1,753	Deputy truckingpete reporting for researching.. Here, Here for the Middle Ages! Lets get researching Scientist RegentMan!! - Deputy TP

Mar 30, 2005, 07:51 AM	#8
RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,852	Screenies and discussion links updated for 1375BC. __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here!

Mar 30, 2005, 07:42 PM	#9
truckingpete Sportscaster! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Dakota, USA Posts: 1,753	I just like to say, I am going to be gone tommarow. I might not get on at all tommarrow. I'll be back the next day though. Going somewhere fo school. Just wanted you to know. - Deputy TP

Apr 01, 2005, 08:15 AM	#10
DaveShack Inventor Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Arizona, USA (it's a dry heat) Posts: 12,217	Before we can proceed much further, we need to know how fast to research. Do we want to forge on full speed ahead, or go slow? Even though this might be obvious it does need to be decided. __________________ Democracy Game Revival DemoGame Social Group MTDG II - Mad Scientists Listening: "A king, in order to be a true leader, must listen with his ears, eyes, and heart, giving his people his undivided attention."

Apr 01, 2005, 11:17 AM	#11
RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,852	Well, I need to know what the people want. Do they want more money to upgrade warriors/chariots for a war? In that case I would have to concede and let the slider drop. I always go max science in my games (or max science with a profit). Also, it depends on what we research. I need philosophy discovered and its free tech. Discussion shows unless you can do a republic trade sling-shot, then grab construction. Once we're sure what we want, I can find out where to go next. I imagine government is important so I've got to prepare for that afterwards. Man philosophy is a pain in the butt! __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here!

Apr 01, 2005, 03:10 PM	#12
mad-bax Back on the horse Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,774	Consul, I have been thinking about the overall objective of reaching 130K. I believe it in the best interests of the nation to reduce the overall tech rate in the game so that we don't face rifles and infantry, and don't have to worry about space races and the UN at all if possible. Would you consider drawing up a policy that not only sets out research direction, but that also reduces the overall tech rate as much as possible? mad-bax External Consul

Apr 01, 2005, 04:27 PM	#14
RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,852	Well, right now this is what I see happening: Finish Philosophy Get Construction For Free Research Currency Research Code of Laws/Polytheism Research The Republic/Monarchy Trade For Map Making Sometime This is my personal tech choice. I still need to start a discussion about what government to get. Perhaps after the next turn chat we'll be in a position to go ahead and pick. __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here!

Apr 01, 2005, 05:26 PM	#15
vikingruler King Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 964	the way i see it is that we are in a prediciment. to win a culture win we need to be advanced to get the good improvements and wonders. to get that would mean to research high and forget an army. but without an army we can't expand.(dutch and indians are boxing us in and we destroy easily especially if we have no army)No expansion means no money, and no science output, no science output means no techs which means no culture win. so we need to focus on getting a STRONG army. which includes a lot of chariots for exploration? and a form of blitzkreig attack and the majority should be vet swords. my plan is to get construction and sell it as soon as the AI gets a lot of money. then either map making and then beeline for republic because of it's economic and scientific benefits or monarchy for there zero war weariness, and average economic, scientific benefits. I personally would rather get republic and take our chances with revolt on low ww. in conclusion, we get construction, sell it for tons of cash if possible techs, rush a military, increase lux slider to prevent revolt from whipping, the gold we accumualate from selling will cover the high lux and destroy the dutch while getting mm and beelining for republic. __________________ Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it. -Mark Twain The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. -Martin Luther King Jr. Economic Left/Right: -5.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.64

Apr 01, 2005, 05:46 PM	#16
blackheart unenlightened Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 8,632	We need leading military tech to crush the Indians and Dutch before going for any culture win. __________________ Relax, it will all be alright.

Apr 01, 2005, 07:39 PM	#17
cavvie Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 19	This idea seems good but we do need to consider that the longer we wait to crush the Dutch and/or Indians, the more we may have to shift to a military mindset with our tech research in the early middle ages. This should also be considered, and I believe it already is, on other threads (with Dutch and Indian UUs forthcoming).

Apr 03, 2005, 09:07 AM	#20
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