COTM 12 Pre-Game Discussion

ainwood · Apr 25, 2005

COTM 12 - Arabia

The ansar warrior was always one of my favorite UUs, so I figured it was about time to take them for a spin again.

Its Monarch, you have a great UU (IMHO), so do you really need a great starting location?

Civilization: Arabs.
Difficulty:: Monarch.
World:: Standard, Continents, 60% Ocean, 3 Billions.
Climate:: Arid, Warm.
Barbarians:: Restless.
Goody Huts:: Workers, not settlers.
Rivals:: 7 pre-selected.

Starting maps:

Conquest class bonus:

Total Starting Cash in Treasury: 20 units of gold.
Extra Units: An extra scout
Knowledge: The knowledge of the Wheel (in addition to Pottery & Ceremonial Burial).

Predator class equalisers:

AI Unit Support: AI unit support increased to Emperor level.
Barb Attack Bonus: Removed.
Knowledge: Your people are backward. You thought they knew pottery, but that was just mud-hut building.

Durkz · Apr 25, 2005

wow so much desert...

namliaM · Apr 25, 2005

I 2nd that

A'AbarachAmadan · Apr 25, 2005

Too bad were not agricultural...

This is actually my favorite UU, if there are resources to use it (am I paranoid), so maybe another attempt at Fastest Conquest. Of course, 60% ocean means lots and lots of conquesting.

I can't see making a decision to move the settler until I move the scout. Before I even do that, I'd want to know if the water to the north is a lake or a coast. If lake I can see moving 1N, if not I can see moving 1E or 1SE. I think it likely that my worker will starting mining/roading the oasis right away.

denyd · Apr 25, 2005

I going to have my scout check out that SE water before I settle. Could be a FP maybe with wheat. If not I agree with A'AA, settle in place and start mine/road on the NE oasis.

Researching the Wheel to locate horses will be a priority if no Japan in the game. After that, trying for Republic slingshot, but that's a lot of techs to research to get it from where we start.

Ginger_Ale · Apr 25, 2005

Am I paranoid or is there incense 2 NW and 1 W of the starting scout?

Xevious · Apr 25, 2005

I, too, see something 2NW,W. There also appears to be something 2E,NE. There appear to be plains to the S,SE, which will be good for growth once irrigated. I think heading one or two steps SE would be best, assuming that is fresh water that way.

Mwoimp · Apr 25, 2005

I don't think you're paranoid Ginger_Ale, I'm pretty sure that is incense. As for settling, I'm thinking of settling 1N, but I'll be sure to check what the water is first.

eldar · Apr 25, 2005

Not another desert start?! And another 60% world? Short of reliable options offered by the Scout, I'll be heading south-ish for those plains and that forest that are just visible. The oases will make a nice 2nd city location, but not much good for churning out settlers.

ainwood · Apr 25, 2005

eldar said:
Not another desert start?!

I felt sorry for the COTM-only players who might have missed the Rome start.

solenoozerec · Apr 25, 2005

I think I will settle at the spot. The question is where to send a scout. Too many apportunities :hmm:

Most likely n nw.

DaveMcW · Apr 25, 2005

Oasis is the same as bonus grassland, but the rest of the tiles are useless.

Judging by the minimap, we can expect jungle to the north and desert to the east & west. So the most promising land is to the south.

I will move the settler SE, giving my scout 2 turns to find better terrain before I have to decide whether to settle or walk.

Renata · Apr 25, 2005

You're getting progressively more sadistic, Ainwood. I like it.

Renata

solenoozerec · Apr 25, 2005

Renata said:
You're getting progressively more sadistic, Ainwood. I like it.

Renata

Anyway, what about Renata's second map?

Peepers · Apr 25, 2005

@Xevious: I think that's just coastline 2E,NE. There are 2 Incense to the W/NW. I don't use this graphics mod, so I may be wrong, but is it marsh to 2N,NE? (so precious grassland beneath...) As long as the pond E,SE isn't a coastal extension and is actually fresh, I count 12 food available assuming irr deserts, mined oases, and using 2 freshwater. So it is possible to settle in place; after changing gov't, irr the oases and grow beyond 6. Maybe not the best option there, but food for thought. A lot depends on initial scout findings here.

Peepers · Apr 25, 2005

Amendment to above: If the water to N and NW is fresh as well, there is sufficient food after irrigation to grow beyond 6, not counting the hills (mined, they're more productive than irrigated deserts).

Does anyone know if the workers from huts are Arab, or slave?

Iver-P · Apr 25, 2005

I am new to Conquests, but have been playing Civ a long time. This "Republic slingshot" is a new term to me. What is it? How does it work? Is there someplace here on the forum where I can read up on it?

ainwood · Apr 25, 2005

Iver-P said:
I am new to Conquests, but have been playing Civ a long time. This "Republic slingshot" is a new term to me. What is it? How does it work? Is there someplace here on the forum where I can read up on it?

DaveMcW's article here tells you all you need to know.

Renata · Apr 26, 2005

solenoozerec said:
Anyway, what about Renata's second map?

Coming up in June or thereabouts, I believe. It's not sadistic at all. Well, except for one or two things. :cooool:

Renata

Darkness · Apr 26, 2005

Nasty start, Ainwood. Besides the 2 oasis, there is only useless land...

I may go on a long trek with my settler, so the scout may prove to be very useful indeed....

On a sidenote...: This seems rather familiar to me. Wasn't the Arabs GOTM (number 23, IIRC) also a desert start?

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