Vožd Karadorde Petrovic of Serbia

This is my full civilization of Serbia and the industrial era of its leader, I hope post soon the missing eras
One doubt: What unit the Cetnik UU should replace? And anyone already did this one?

Civilization: Serbia
Bonuses: Religious and Agricultural (Militaristic)
Title and leader: Vožd Karadorde Petrovic
Best/shunned government: Monarchy and Communism
Agression: 03 (normal)
Cultural group: European
Noun: Serbs
Adjective: Serbian
Colors: Blue (Germans) and Dark Blue (Babylonians)
UU: Cetnik
Civilopedia entry: RACE_SERBIA





Cities:
Ras
Beograd
Niš
Priština
Kruševac
Kragujevac
Novi Sad
Kraljevo
Cacak
Užice
Obrenovac
Valjevo
Šabac
Loznica
Mladenovac
Kosovska Mitrovica
Pec
Arandelovac
Dubrovnik
Podgorica
Cetinje
Skadar
Sarajevo
Banja Luka
Mostar
Tuzla
Zenica
Knin
Vukovar
Skopje
Vršac
Zemun
Pancevo
Ðakovica
Gracanica
Gnjilane
Uroševac
Kacanik
Prizren
Negotin
Bor
Zajecar
Kladovo
Velika Plana
Požarevac
Smederovo
Stalac
Novi Pazar
Požega
Gornji Milanovac
Zvornik
Knjaževac
Aleksinac
Kotor
Herceg-Novi
Bar
Ulcinj
Šavnik
Žabljak
Nikšic
Stara Pazova
Indija
Ruma
Sremska Mitrovica
Šid
Sremski Karlovci
Backa Palanka
Temerin
Becej
Zrenjanin
Novi Becej
Pljevlja
Bijelo Polje
Rožaj
Ivangrad
Plav
Kolašin
Andrijevica
Vladicin Han
Vranje
Surdulica
Bosilegrad
Trgovište
Preševo
Podujevo
Vucitrn
Železnik
Kovin
Virpazar
Bela Crkva
Alibunar
Srpska Crnja
Kikinda
Srbobran
Vrbas
Kula
Crvenka
Odžaci
Apatin
Sombor


Military leaders:
Miloš Obilic
Knez Lazar Hrebeljanovic
Vojvoda Stevan Sindelic
Vojvoda Stepa Stepanovic
Ðeneral Draža Mihailovic


Scientific ones:
Nikola Tesla
Mihailo Pupin
Vuk Stefanovic Karadžic
Ruder Boškovic
Milutin Milankovic


Civilopedia:


Cetnik, the UU:
Replaces Guerilla and it is available after u've discovered "nationalism"

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The Chetnik should replace the Guerilla. And no, nobody ever made a Chetnik before. So far, it's only a request on my part.

Now, the LH. Hmmm... I don't know, he doesn't have the expression on his face often found in the contemporary portraits. He looks too pale and his moustache might be a little too thin. What do you think?

TopGun69 said:

The Chetnik should replace the Guerilla. And no, nobody ever made a Chetnik before. So far, it's only a request on my part.

Now, the LH. Hmmm... I don't know, he doesn't have the expression on his face often found in the contemporary portraits. He looks too pale and his moustache might be a little too thin. What do you think?

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In case this unit doesn't exit yet, I can try to do it , BTW, thanks for the image reference.
About the LH, I can enlarge the moustache and change his skin color, it is easy to do, BTW, this is his neutral mood.

OOhhh I like that alot! I can tell this is going to be a good one! looks great so far! I really like that hat

Corn Shucker said:

OOhhh I like that alot! I can tell this is going to be a good one! looks great so far! I really like that hat

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thanks!
BTW, new images in post number 01. I have to do some changes late, but if someone already has some suggestions, post. Oh, I changed the moustache size and his skin color in the industrial era.

I think you should get rid of his hat in the industrial era. The rest Looks great.. I think the Chetnik should replace the Guerilla also.

Nooo!!!! Do NOT get rid of the hat in the industrial age! Thats the best part of the leaderhead in ALL eras!

I think he looks more like a Mexican in the hat then a Serb.

I checked other leader heads you made and this one would be prefect:

just remove the beard (you might want to leave it for ancient times) and if possible try to make hair little shorter, also that crown looks a little big, and I don’t like that hat for industrial era.
For medieval you should try to make it look like on this portrait

(btw. on his belt you can see kubura-flint lock handgun),

If you want to use military uniform for industrial era you could use something like this:



this is Vojvoda Zivojin Misic, there are also pictures of Kralj (King) Petar I Karadjordjevic (Karadjordje's grandson) and Kralj Aleksandar I Karadjordjevic in similar uniform but I couldn’t find them anywhere.
And here is the hat:


Also Kralj Aleksandar I Karadjordjevic after WWI used to ware white admiral uniform, which you could use for modern leader, I'll see if I can find any pictures of it.
As for chetnik UU hat (sajkaca) should look like this:


And uniform similar with what Misic is wearing just without all those medals and stuff.

And there are typos again it should be Karađorđe or Karadjordje.

I'm going to do some changes and this LH tomorrow, when I can I post the new view for new feedback

*sigh* I sure hope you use that hat for some other LH.... its too good to throw away! I was looking forward to getting my hands on that hat! lol.

I have new images in post number 01. Enjoy!

@Corn: I can use that cool hat in other LHs

I think the distance between the eye and the eye brow is too much. I prefer the proportions in Rade's small picture.
I think his skin color is way to dark. I've known a few Serbs, they were quite pale.
I think the image would look better if he gained a little bit of weight so his adams apple (on his neck) was less obvious.

Bjornlo said:

I think the distance between the eye and the eye brow is too much. I prefer the proportions in Rade's small picture.
I think his skin color is way to dark. I've known a few Serbs, they were quite pale.
I think the image would look better if he gained a little bit of weight so his adams apple (on his neck) was less obvious.

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I think the eyes/brow distance and skin color match with the image reference of the leader. Maybe they r a bit high in the happy mood and he opens too much his eyes.

CivArmy s. 1994 said:

I have new images in post number 01. Enjoy!

@Corn: I can use that cool hat in other LHs

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Sweet! Thanks that hat is so awesome!

Corn Shucker said:

Sweet! Thanks that hat is so awesome!

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I agree, this prop is cool and I must use it more times
And if u check the industrial era I'll see he uses the same hat, but I deform it and remove some details

I can't stop drooling!! I love the look of the industrial era with the changes i think he looks more like a Seb. . Awsome job like always

CivArmy s. 1994 said:

I think the eyes/brow distance and skin color match with the image reference of the leader. Maybe they r a bit high in the happy mood and he opens too much his eyes.

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It is a nice looking leader head. You're quite good with Poser.
But, I still think his eyes are higher "at rest" then they should go when he is happy.

I think the skin tone is off. Compare it to photos (not oil paintings that have been photoshop'ed) of actual serbs. Serbs are not olive skinned, not even close.

He look a little like suprised hispanic. The problem is, once again, the size of the eyes as much as their placement. Compare the size of the eyes in the painting of George Petrovich to your poser model. It might be (I haven't checked) that the distance from the eyes is correct, but with your choice of such small eyes it makes this distance look even greater.

Also I am pretty sure his name is wrong.
I'm reasonably sure Vožd is a title, perhaps duke.
And his name was Đorđa Petrović or Djordje (same as George) Petrovich (using the standard alphabet)
I'm pretty sure Karađorđa/Karadjordje is just the nickname the turks gave him (dark George I believe)
The other tribes use the common english words when their equivalents are known, for example the King of the scandinavians is not known by a scandinavian equivalent. None of us have had to learn ancient egyptian to use them as as tribe. So, I would suggest calling him Duke Djordje (or George) Petrovich , not Vožd Đorđa Petrović. And not using his turkish nickname at all.

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YESSSS! Now we're talkin'! Now I L.O.V.E this LH... now he looks like a Serb from Ancient Times all the way to Modern Times. Good Job!!!