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Deity
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Lyrics for Baba Yetu (For those who want to sing/read along)
Okay, well, Firaxis has released the Opening Soundtrack - Baba Yetu - to Civ4 already, and it's a pretty catchy tune (at least, to me). When I tried to find the lyrics, I got really stuck. Christopher Tin (the composer) appears to have mixed around the words of "The Lord's Prayer". "Baba Yetu", in fact, means "Our Father" in Swahili.
I don't know much about swahili grammar, but I don't think that he payed much reguards to the end result. That being said, here it is. There's still a bunch of mistakes, but it's enough to read along to the song. Quote:
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![]() If you have any improvements, please tell. (If you missed the download, here it is.) EDIT: Well, we saw Civ IV finally come out. When I finally saw the title screen, and this music playing behind it...I must admit, it brought a tear to my eye. And now the audience is growing greater. Also, as some astute listerners might notice, the song actually goe "Baba yetu yetu uliye", as opposed to "baba yetu yesu uliye" transcribed here. CHristopher Tin has said that this is a result of a recording change. So if you're singing along, repeat the "yetu". However, for lyrical purposes, see the version above. BIG EDIT: Even though I put it off for months, I finally got together free time (you know, that lull you get after Semester Finals) to jot down a basic chord structure of the song. Now for those of you who play guitar, piano, or keyboard, find it HERE! Note: mfalme_mpendwa, a swahili speaker, has posted an alternate translation that is alot more accurate. Edit again Wow, it has seriously been almost five years since I originally sat down to transcribe this song. Anyways, I've received a tip from Zancor La Duca, who has helped me fix some words in the song (simoma -> simovu, which makes a bit more sense in that context). Listening over that stanza in particular, I've realized that I must note still that much of this is still all guestimation, by someone (me) with no Swahili or real linguistic experience. That being said, I'm really honored that I've been able to help so many people.
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Stoned as a Statue
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Wow. I don't know if I will use this myself, but I really have to congradulate you on the effort you obviously put into this.
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Warlord
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: my special place
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The tune is actually pretty catchy. It sounds pretty good for cIV. I mean it is pretty epic sounding, but I like it because it sounds of hope, not just of war and conflict.
I wonder though why they chose Our Father? It's possible they just liked the tune, but maybe they were influenced by the new addition of religion? |
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Deity
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Maybe if I'm bored enough I'll add chord charts
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Arctic Troops
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Maybe they just wanted something that sounds "African" and grabbed the Swahili version of the Lord's Prayer off the internet.
![]() MSTK, I'm impressed. I've been studying Swahili a bit, and your transcription seems to be accurate. Do you speak Swahili? |
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Deity
Join Date: Dec 2003
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), I had to transcribe them the best I could and look them up.And of all the versions of the Lord's Prayer Tin could have used, it has to be the one I found in 1 out of 15 pages
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Liberal Jihadist
Join Date: Jul 2004
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It is certainly fitting. The chorus is apparently not all Swahili speakers, or at least not native ones, but that's probably good--it is indicitave of the fact that as far as possible, Civ does not discriminate.
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Deity
Join Date: Dec 2003
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I think that they chose Swahili because it gives an "ancient" feeling to everything...probably because when we hear African chanting we usually are reminded of the acient tribal gatherings.
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Warlord
Join Date: Jan 2002
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In the other thread, Bismark2990 linked to Christopher Tin's site where it is revealed that the song is performed by Talisman a Cappella. They are a very interesting student vocal group from Stanford University and can be found at:
http://www.stanfordtalisman.com/html/frames.htm If you navigate around there, you can find a couple of other of their songs to download. One is that really heavy Billie Holiday classic Strange Fruit. |
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Kremlin Highlander
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Paris
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Baba Yetu is one of the best examples of polytheistic music ever. That's why it sounds so "epic".
Nice job, by the way!
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Although I'd much rather hear more of Christopher Tin's work
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Chieftain
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
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MSTK, you're my HERO!! I saw this song listed as one of the news items, and thought I'd give it a listen, just out of boredom, not know how incredible it would be, and I was so moved !!! And now you've laid the words out, too!
I'm VERY grateful to you!! You've made my day!! |
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Emperor
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Yay Area
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We have to make a fricking voice recording of us singing it. WHOSE WITH ME?
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Prince
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Westlake Village, CA
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I have the best voice. Especially in Swahilli
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Prince
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: U.S.A
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I love the song its perfect!!!
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Emperor of Arabia
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Fantastic job on the translations, MSTK! I like this song as well - I can't wait for Civ 4!
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Chieftain
Join Date: Oct 2001
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This song is amazing, I love it! And if this is really the theme song(?) for Civ 4, then I think that bodes well for what we'll see come this November.
Good move by Firaxis in choosing such a song that fits the new religions that's being added to the game. Also, if people loved this song as I did, you may want to check out similiar artists such as David Arkenstone and Solace. David Arkenstone does a wide variety of themes ranging from egypt to The Lord of the Rings, all instrumental but very beautiful. Solace is defined as "classical middle-eastern with excursions into electronica", and you can actually listen for free to them at: http://magnatune.com/artists/solace They have 7 albums, all fantastic and they really fit the classical to medieval era music very well. If anyone knows of any similiar music like Baba Yetu, please, please share, give me a name.
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AbstractArt
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Too near The Temple of Jerry Jones
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Wow!
MSTK, man, thanks a lot. It is a catchy tune, but not too overpowering. Strong and masculine but not rough and abrasive. I like this song. I just wish I could sing.
Hmm. Just thinking out loud. I wonder, just wonder, if I could talk our Worship Leader at church into doing this for a Sunday Morning Choir Special. Perhaps on a Sunday that was part of a Missions Conference. Let's see, the congregation would need to see both sets of words, the Swahili and the English. Words on a moving background would be nice, may have to settle for multiple static backgrounds (Powerpointish). It would certainly be a different sound from what they are accustomed to. Hmm. First I will let him listen to it, then show him the Swahili/English translation. Then I will tell it comes from a computer game! It will knock his Southern Gospel socks off.
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Chieftain
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Canada
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Good thing that there are Music Off and NoIntro switches. Cannot think of more inapropriate music for CIVILIZATION, which is LATIN word in the first place. Civilization is roads, aqueducts, literature, legions, etc. -- the Empire whereas this music convey an image of savages singing in the jungle/savannah. It is not "Tarzan".
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Chieftain
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
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Frankly pvzh, that's a pretty foul thing to say. People singing are not deserving of being called 'savages.'
Your post clearly demonstrates you're the last person around here to be passing judgement on what's civilized and what isnt. EDIT (to add a thought, in line with mod's note): Perhaps you'd like to name some music you think would be more apropriate? Perhaps in a seperate thread than this one? Last edited by Origen; Aug 27, 2005 at 08:28 PM. |
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