The Barbarian Menace

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As everyone knows, a group of fortified barbarians have been sighted west of the great city of Olympus. We dispatched our mighty warrior Ares to dispose of them. Unfourtanatley, the gods did not help him in his hope to purge the land of the barbarians. His first attack failed and resulted in the death of Ares. We must do something about this invasion of barbarians. We currently have one more warrior, Athena, a settler, and a warrior being built in Olympus. I would prefer not risking the life of our warrior and main explortorial unit. I suggest allowing Athena to continue her exploration with her new path of a circular direction and let the 3rd warrior built to the remaining half circle. Therefore, I suggest waiting for our 5th warrior, the 4th should be used for garrisioning duties, to dispatch of the barbarians. Since a casulty has already been sustained, and the Romans and French are both poised to attack the barbs instead of us I felt the people should give their opinion on this.
 
I plea that you are not suggesting that we halt in the production of much needed settlers to create excess warriors. These barbs seem to have a bit of a flu that keeps them from attacking us, unless we provoke them. I say we thank the gods for this! It may be sanest to keep creating, or create these soldiers while the good citizens of Olympus regroup before they create our next glorious band of settler.

OOC: Its the warrior bug. It's been there since the C3C betas. Aint gonna go away, no use adding defense.
 
I was not thinking of not producing settlers. however, the next unit we build will be a warrior, correct? Now this warrior will provide extra exploration. the next unit we build might be a settler. I suggest build one more warrior, to fortify in olympus, we need to start thinking about national defense and military police. even though unhappiness isn't a problem yet, better safe than sorry. As for avoiding the barbarians, it is IMO we attack them soon, or completly forget about them. they can provide training for our units, and their is most likely an encampment nearby which will provide 25 gold. We can see french warriors and a roman archer, they will no doubt discover the barbs and attack them, i fear that the archer will not fare a badly as Ares did, and if a party of 3 or 4 french warriors attack the barbs, they will most likely defeat them and claim the gold we can get. I say seize this oppurtunity before we lose the chance.
 
I concur with Saam, I am all for a task force to kill the barbs and take their gold, but not at the expense of our scouting or settler buliding.
 
why can't our next warrior kill the barbs? it's supposed to go their anyway, so they should go ahead and take a detour at their nice little village. we really don't need to have 5 warriors so soon. our next one kills barbs and explores south/sw and our third is garrisoned in Olympus. there. it's all done in 3 warriors, instead of 5. :rolleyes:
 
No, leave that barbarian alone. If he enters our territory and comes closer to Olympus, then we should use the warrior to attack him. Let's concentrate on exploring and building settlers for now. If the barb stays there, then we can destroy him with a new warrior later when we try to build a city there or develop the terrain near him.
 
I understand why people don't want to attack the barbarians. I also realize the mistake in wanting to build 5 warriors. How about, the next warrior we build will take the second half of the circle Athena is not exploring. If this warrior runs into the barbarian settlement I believe that we should elimanate it. They will only send out more barbs, or the French or Romans will kill them and take the money we should get.
 
We should attack them. That 25 gold bonus PLUS a chance of veterncy is pretty nice reward, and barbarians aren't that great of fighters either, it was rather unlucky that they beat us the first round, but the second round we're bound to come out on top.

I say attack them and claim the fruitfull rewards for doing it.
 
An attack is needed. Gold and experiance are things that should be left alone. Our next warrior should leade a single unit campaign against the Phoenician barbarians.
 
No, the barbarian can wait. If he enters the territory of Olympus, then he will be dangerously close to the capitol so that we would need to exterminate him. But now, I think he is quite far away to put our units in danger.
 
They do pose only a little threat but "A Little caution outflanks a large cavalry." We are currently weak compared to the french and Romans and we don't want them taking our experiance and our gold. We could be it to good use; they'll put it to use against us.
 
Well, Icmancic, first we should build a settler, because we must expand quickly before the AI gets the best lands and resources. Then we can kill the barb, because since he is near our territory, it will be easier to kill him for us than for a french or roman, because they are farther away.

Besides, it is only a barb, not a horde of tanks;)
 
Thats true too. But we've got a settler currently and were building a warrior, due in 4 turns. Might as well utilise it.
 
Yes...The Warriors 4 tunrs away use it to get at the barbs! The Gold and Experience are nessecary... We can then continue to reel out settlers, but this Barbarian will give us a slight advantage, with an early jump in gold and possibly a jump to veternecy befroe the AI veteren units are SOOO much better than regualrs and conscripts....They have staying power which prolongs the fight in our own favor, we've got to get it!
 
Please - no attacking right now!

We NEED to explore our surroundings - I'm quite convinced that the attack was a mistake on my part. There were 3 barbarians there. 3. If we kill that first one, we'll quite likely get hit by the next two. A Warrior against a fortified barbarian warrior at Emporer - I don't like those odds. Against 3 Barbs? Even worse.

Explore around them, and wait until we have a 2 attack unit to destroy them, or it becomes necessary. So long as the barbs stay where they are and don't bother us, we're in good shape. The neighbors concern me FAR more than barbarians do.

No attacks!

-- Ravensfire
 
ravensfire, I really think an attack would be good at this time. Not an attack on the 3 barbs that are fortified, rather the encampment, we will get the gold that way and as long only one is fortified we do not need to worry about retallation. you are correct in not wanting to attack the 3 barbs and i agree with you.
 
vikingruler said:
ravensfire, I really think an attack would be good at this time. Not an attack on the 3 barbs that are fortified, rather the encampment, we will get the gold that way and as long only one is fortified we do not need to worry about retallation. you are correct in not wanting to attack the 3 barbs and i agree with you.
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Strongly disagree on this. Strongly.

First, our primary needs right now are exploration. We MUST find the sites for our next 2 cities (3 and 4) within the next few turn chats. With one warrior far, far to the north in lands we don't have a prayer to settler.

Our next warrior must scout around, focusing on good city terrain. We CANNOT allow an insignificant barbarian camp to divert any more attention from that.

Second, attacking a camp is just as risk as going after the barbs. We could get next to the camp, and discover barbs in the camp. Our warriors should be scouts only. Once we get more suitable units or the barbarians get aggressive, we attack. Until then, we need to scout.

Vikingruler, what are you planned instructions for the next turnchat about scouting and the orders of the next warrior?

-- Ravensfire
 
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