Administrator Ruling #2 - COMPLETE

Ginger_Ale · Sep 23, 2005

Administrator Ruling #2 - COMPLETE.

Case: Several teams at this point have contacted RegentMan and myself about a challenge to Team TNT over Rule 2.4 and the 'spirit of the game'. For reference, the rule is below.

2.4 - Misleading through Renaming

Description: No team or individual is permitted to rename a unit or city with the intent of misleading or confusing opponents.

Definition: Cities can be renamed to names of tech or sums of gold or anything else in an effort to not trade what that opponent agreed to. Units can be renamed to other units and appear to be something else entirely.

Purpose: To prevent the misleading or confusion of another team through malicious use of in-game features.

Verdict: Using this 'feature' or any other feature or exploit that allows misleading or confusing another team is a violation of this rule.

Punishment Level: Once – Red (5-Expulsion and forfeiture of double what was not legally traded)

Interpreting the Rule: The rule states, simply, renaming units or cities with the intent (very subjective) of confusion on the part of the other teams is against the rules. However, late in the rule, under the definition, it indicates this rule is for trading and diplomacy, not the general naming of cities or units.

Verdict: See post #34.

Feel free to make arguments.

Thank you.

Admiral Kutzov · Sep 23, 2005

the idiots (i.e. team KISS) are p.o'd about:

the palace jump and the fact that they attempted to disguise it by renaming the city to the original. Please advise if more details are needed.

Provolution · Sep 23, 2005

I will leave this to our UN Representative VBraun, and I have no comments to teams we have not met, as in the spirit of the game, we can have no such dealings.

Admiral Kutzov · Sep 23, 2005

just cause our shamans are idiots don't mean we're stupid, u ....

Provolution · Sep 23, 2005

Let us talk when we have actually met, and you guys invented Code of Laws.

ybbor · Sep 23, 2005

AS MIA UN rep, reflecting full or partial consensus:

This renaming violated the spirit of the rules. The lack of notification to the other teams shows a lack of respect for the other teams, and no desire to keep a level of good faith with the other teams.

That being said, TNT did not do any actions that severely affected the outcome of the game, and we can be sensible, and understand that this should not be treated outside of the realm of reason.

Admiral Kutzov · Sep 23, 2005

we agree with MIA.

Own · Sep 23, 2005

A palace jump this early? Why would you do that?

Admiral Kutzov · Sep 23, 2005

we know. what's it worth to u own?

Own · Sep 23, 2005

Admiral Kutzov said:
we know. what's it worth to u own?

Was that sarcasm? I don't get why it would be smart to jump your palace this early.

Strider · Sep 23, 2005

Own said:
I don't get why it would be smart to jump your palace this early.

It's fairly simple, it wasn't smart. :rolleyes:

Needless to say, this entire thread is idoitic.

Admiral Kutzov · Sep 23, 2005

Was that sarcasm? I don't get why it would be smart to jump your palace this early.

@own - yes, that was sarcasm, but IIRC u r on our team. return prodigal and we'll share

@ provo -Maybe u need therapy dude?

Provolution · Sep 24, 2005

I AM the therapy dude

DaveShack · Sep 24, 2005

I very strongly recommend you all keep it civil. The MTDG is under CFC forum rules, same as the rest of the site.

Provolution · Sep 24, 2005

Admiral Kutzov said:
@own - yes, that was sarcasm, but IIRC u r on our team. return prodigal and we'll share

@ provo -Maybe u need therapy dude?

That last comment was not needed Admiral Kutzov. I wonder if you are a turnplayer or Team representative? If that is the case, Team TNT expect an explanation on who is representing the team.

Sir Bugsy · Sep 24, 2005

K.I.S.S. is an anarchy. As a bunch of idiots, we pretty much do what we like. Sometimes it makes diplomacy really bad, because we have way too many people in charge.

Provolution · Sep 24, 2005

That solved the diplomatic accusations of accountability between teams, thank you. We know pretty much where Team KISS stands. No written rule has been broken, and I think we should continue the game.

Whomp · Sep 24, 2005

Provolution said:
That last comment was not needed Admiral Kutzov. I wonder if you are a turnplayer or Team representative? If that is the case,
Team TNT expect an explanation on who is representing the team.

Ginger Ale said:
Feel free to make arguments.

Sounds like an open discussion to me. Adm. K., like any member of our team, is open to offer his views as far as I'm concerned.

I believe the biggest issue on many of our minds is how this renaming trickery was in the "spirit of the game"? It is clear it was not. Not gamebreaking but simply an attempt at trickery.

My personal feelings on this issue is it initially slowed the game down to a grind and now we are completely halted. The best word I can use to describe this situation is disappointment. What a colossal waste of time. :sad:

Provolution · Sep 24, 2005

If there are nothing but spurious references to "spirit" and a rule we did not break, I suggest we end this one sided flaming from Team KISS and get on with the game.

Admiral Kutzov · Sep 24, 2005

I suggest we end this one sided flaming from Team KISS and get on with the game.

apologies to the people of TNT, we aren't the ones that have been late, twice

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