OPERATION III:Chasing The Hun

Citizens and Soldiers,

It seems that the weak Huns have no desire for peace just yet, we must show them how beneficial peace is for both us and them. To do this we obviuosly need to take thier cities. Or city if it works out the best way.

Of course if before we follow through on this plan, we MUST accept the peace with them, we don't want France or Rome taking the extra land, but even so, if they do NOT accept peacwe with us just yet, I feel that we should do the following:

You see we have a small dilema here, we can easily destroy the whole Civilization known as Germnay if we wanted to to, which in normal games would be an ideal option, but in a 5BC, do we really want to? What happens when a nation attacks and razes land, but then doesn't occupy it? Someone else will. Which isn't what we want, we do not want the other Civilizations to grow more than possible while we limit ourselves to five cities, no matter how advanced or well trained and how perfect your strategem is, Numbers can and WILL beat you. We can't allow our economy to be overtaken by that much, and to do this we have to keep things pretty well balanced while at the same time we have to rise up over the weaker peoples of this earth.

Therefore to get Germany to Surrender we'll have to start a controlled assault we do this by meaningfully taking cities and strategically making SMART decsions of tactics and strategy.

Strategic Takeover Plan (Rough Draft)

First off we have a few German Troops to our South (Archers) and they need taken out, we have two Swordsman in the area and one due from Civatonia due in a single turn. We'll surround the Archers to prevent them from splitting up and then attacking all at once. Hopefully we don't sustain too many losses, a single Swordsman lost is not acceptable.

If we lose that single Swordsman we'll need him replaced as quickly as possible by Civatonia. Once he's replaced we can continue on with PHASE I. The Three Swordsman will march on Heidelburg right onto its front gates. If we can get a trbuchet into the mix that would be nice, but I'm not sure exactly where it is right now, so...

But once they're at Heidelburg's gates we'll of course Investigate the City. If it's to well defended, and we DONT have a trebuchet in the assault force, we'll move around in a stack and raze the countryside while Reinforcements arrive.

If we DO have the Trebuchet in the assault force, and its too well defended for a single attack, we'll obviously sit down, start bombarding the place and wait for reinforcments. If we do this we needa Swordsman in there quick as we don't have the defensive capability to withstand a long drawn out siege.

When we finally DO have the Defender's outnumbered, then we'll launch an attack on Heidelburg. We simply do a quick bomardment and then follow it up with a swift Swordsman assault on the city, aiming for a one tunr takeover, if we don't get it, send in re-inforcements from Civatonia, and sit down for a siege, but the main idea IS to take it in a single attack.

After we take and Raze Heidelburg, we negotiate for peace. If we CANNOT get PEace with Germany stop the TC, for further discussion.

Any comments, critiques and changes to the Plan Draft?

--Minister of Defense:Ranger99

What if we can get them to surrender without razing another city? What if they offer it before we attack? Do we take it? Our borders will not yet prevent resettlement of Hiedelburg so I think we should take Peace if we can and save the razing of these will come to nothing German cities until we can raze them and they will not be replaced. Better weak Germany has them than a stronger France or Rome.

If possible, I would prefer to see us eliminate the offensive units of the German army, but allow them to hold on to their remaining cities and defensive units.

We have taken what we needed, there is no reason for us to visit further destruction on the Germans.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

I would be quite happy to see them keep their offensive Archers and clog up their armies with obsolete troops they won't upgrade. All the easier for us later.

I guess a weak Germany is better then a destroyed one and old lands are settled by enemy civs. However, those German archers pose a threat kil them. Hidelburg should be destroyed as well as Frankfurt and Cologne. The land they are on isn't to rich so we don't have to worry about a mass settling of enemy civs and tons of troops near our cities.

Eliminate the Archers if necessary,
raze their cities if necessary,
but if they will accept peace before we can do that then accept Peace.

don't accept peace. if we do Germany will have there land and army intact minus Berlin, they are still powerful and mad at us.

Yes, I've wanted peace ever since we captured Berlin, the quicker this is over the better.

I've re-worded a few things to make it sound like Peace is good if wee can get it, if not then we do the following.... blah blah blah....

I'd much rather see Germany keep Heidelburg and Cologne then to see France or Rome take the land. If France takes the land, we have NO retreat option except to the sea, we cannoit aloow them toi take ahold of us from three sides and have the ocean at our backs, we NEED a fallback place or an ally to lean on, if France claims Heidelburg and Cologne area, we'll be in the dumper.

--Minister of Defense:Ranger99

We need to turn our attentions to France and beat them back before they get Musketeers. I would have liked to have been able to eliminate the far-flung German city of Munich via demanding it as the price of peace and then abandoning it, but the people don't seem to want that possibility. We will eventually need to destroy it anyway, but I guess all things in due course.

Ranger99 said:

I'd much rather see Germany keep Heidelburg and Cologne then to see France or Rome take the land. If France takes the land, we have NO retreat option except to the sea, we cannoit aloow them toi take ahold of us from three sides and have the ocean at our backs, we NEED a fallback place or an ally to lean on, if France claims Heidelburg and Cologne area, we'll be in the dumper.

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I don't think you have fully read the Judicial Review results on foreign cities. We are not allowed to ever take another German city. If Berlin is burned to the ground then we are totally out of luck. Likewise, we are never allowed to build another city ourselves, so should the French attack and destroy say Augean Stables, then we are playing a 4BC because we are not allowed to rebuild.

However, it looks like a lot of our citizens want it that way. They say we need the challenge... :shakehead

Let's raid the fields and leave the german cities alone, until they think about peace.

CRUSH the germans. once we are done we can turn our army around and attach any coming settlers

Peace was made in the last turnchat.