Nukes

Hunter717

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This may have already been raised but couldn't nukes be changed? in the previews it says you can't use a nuke inside your own territory. would it be able to change this for some civics? for example a police state might justify the use of nuclear weapons as a defence,as was planned with tactical nukes in the cold war for the defense of germany against the USSR. maybe only democratic systems with voters represented couldn't use them this way... anyway just a thought and i wondered what everyone else thought.
 
I argued in another thread that not being able to drop nukes on your own soil was unrealistic and possibly bad for gameplay. If you're outnumbered you should have the chance to nuke attackers on your soil.
 
Carver said:
I argued in another thread that not being able to drop nukes on your own soil was unrealistic and possibly bad for gameplay. If you're outnumbered you should have the chance to nuke attackers on your soil.


I agree and we need Tac Nukes back I would place one or two on my subs and park them all over the planet (just in case). :lol:
 
Well they took away tacticle nukes and left the ICBM just as weak as before, maybe even weaker. SUCKS. I'm calling Firaxis tomorrow.
 
You already ranted about this in your own thread, killaman. And I responded that nukes don't need to be more powerful, they need to be more useful. And ICBMs are the least useful. They're basically last-resort doomsday weapons, and don't serve any purpose in a practical war. You'll just waste time stockpiling nukes to annihilate your enemy (and yourself) instead of producing military units to conquer your enemy with minimal collateral damage.

My suggestion is adding two early generation nukes: the WWII Atomic Bomb and the Civ3 Tactical Nuke. The A-bomb would be bomber-dropped and therefore could be shot down by enemy fighters or AA defences, but not by the SDI. The Tactical Nuke couldn't be intercepted at all, so it'd be the ultimate nuclear deterent because it'd be nearly impossible to find and neutralize them all before they were launched, especially those loaded aboard Nuclear Subs (but then we'd need Nuclear Submarines in Civ4 too). Also, both the A-bomb and Tact-nuke would only damage one square, instead of 9 like the ICBM, because neither are as powerful as an ICBM. The Tactical Nuke especially because it's purpose is to be used in battle at a range of only a few miles, so it's yield and blast radius would be relatively small.
 
nuke sux , we should be able to nuke on ocean too .
I was not able to nuke a huge amount of boat in the middle of the ecean , how ******** .
 
Soryn Arkayn said:
You already ranted about this in your own thread, killaman. And I responded that nukes don't need to be more powerful, they need to be more useful. And ICBMs are the least useful. They're basically last-resort doomsday weapons, and don't serve any purpose in a practical war. You'll just waste time stockpiling nukes to annihilate your enemy (and yourself) instead of producing military units to conquer your enemy with minimal collateral damage.

My suggestion is adding two early generation nukes: the WWII Atomic Bomb and the Civ3 Tactical Nuke. The A-bomb would be bomber-dropped and therefore could be shot down by enemy fighters or AA defences, but not by the SDI. The Tactical Nuke couldn't be intercepted at all, so it'd be the ultimate nuclear deterent because it'd be nearly impossible to find and neutralize them all before they were launched, especially those loaded aboard Nuclear Subs (but then we'd need Nuclear Submarines in Civ4 too). Also, both the A-bomb and Tact-nuke would only damage one square, instead of 9 like the ICBM, because neither are as powerful as an ICBM. The Tactical Nuke especially because it's purpose is to be used in battle at a range of only a few miles, so it's yield and blast radius would be relatively small.


hey , do you know nuke can be use againts ARMY? like a large army on the same sqare? :crazyeye:
 
Mat777 said:
hey , do you know nuke can be use againts ARMY? like a large army on the same sqare? :crazyeye:
Um... sure. Why couldn't you nuke a large army on the same square? That would be the opportune time to attack, because they've been foolishly stacked together.
 
killaman said:
Well they took away tacticle nukes and left the ICBM just as weak as before, maybe even weaker. SUCKS. I'm calling Firaxis tomorrow.

You do that. But before you do, why not try one first to see just how weak they are instead of relying on heresay.
 
The nuke is weak. But the mod system in Civ4 is quite strong and robust.

As for nuking on the water... I was able to do that to enemy naval units. Only time I can't use a nuke is if a part of its damage will be anywhere in my territory or the territory of someone I am not at war with. (lame)

Modding for tactical nukes would be quite easy. A single line in \Civilization 4\Assets\XML\Units\CIV4UnitInfos.xml
<iNukeRange>1</iNukeRange>
controls the radius of the nuclear blast. Put in a 0 and it only affects the targeted square (Tactical nuke) put in a 2 and it goes out 2 square radius etc.

All kinds of nukes possible with this.
 
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