New Civilization: Wales

Like my other civs, this is still a work in progress, but you can have what I've come up with so far.

Civ: Wales
Leaders: King Arthur (J. Caesar) and Owain Glendower (Cyrus)
Flag: Owain's coat of arms (Lion rampant)
UU: Welsh Longbowman

Enjoy.



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Last Updated: 11/28/05

Nice.

I wish the lion's heads weren't cut off, though - on the Flag.

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Nice. Have any idea on civ traits yet?

Just out of interest, what cities have you included for wales? I'm very interested in the progression of this mod. Here's a list of all the major Welsh Cities (in Welsh, and their English equivalent).

Abergavenny
Y Fenni

Ammanford
Rhydaman

Anglesey
Môn / Ynys Môn

Barmouth
Abermaw

Barry
Y Barri

Bridgend
Pen-y-bont-ar-Ogwr

Caernarvon
Caernarfon

Cardiff
Caerdydd

Cardigan
Aberteifi

Carmarthen
Caerfyrddin

Colwyn Bay
Bae Colwyn

Conway
Conwy

Denbigh
Dinbych

Fishguard
Abergwaun

Flint
Y Fflint

Haverfordwest
Hwlffordd

Hawarden
Penarlâg

Holyhead
Caergybi

Lampeter
Llanbedr Pont Steffan

Llandovery
Llanymddyfri

Milford Haven
Aberdaugleddau

Mold
Yr Wyddgrug

Neath
Castell Nedd

Newport
Carnewydd-ar-Wisg

Newtown
Y Drenewydd

Pembroke
Penfro

Pontypool
Pont-y-pwl

Rhondda
Y Rhondda

Rhyl
Y Rhyl

Ruthin
Rhuthun

St Asaph
Llanelwy

St Davids
Tyddewi

Swansea
Abertawe

Tenby
Dinbych-y-pysgod

Wrexham
Wrecsam

Other major cities with the same name as their English Equivalent: Bangor, Beddgelert, Brecon, Harlech, Llandudno, Llangefni, Merthyr

Sure there's more, and I've missed a few out, but that's what I can think atm. Hope that can be useful for you!

I only went with 15 cities. I'm not too versed in Cymraeg.

Caerdydd (Capital)
Caernarfon
Bangor
Y Trallwng
Caer Guricon
Caerfyrddin
Caerffili
Casnewydd
Aberteifi
Llangefni
Caergybi
Wrecsam
Abertawe
Casllwchwr
Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

How can you Forget Llanelli!?
Okay I wish I could forget it, but it's my locale so it's hard...but it has 3 times the populaton of Carmarthen.

What about Aberystwyth and Machynlleth..
If you have Owen Glyndwr, you must have Machynlleth, because it was where he established his government.

As for Arthur.....it's debatable. How about Llwellyn ap gruffudd, the last true Prince of Wales?

A unique unit could be a better Long bow man? The weapon was created by the Welsh and adopted by the Normans/English....and most Norman/English armies recruited and prized Welsh archers.

Either way, i've been waiting for someone to make this....I tried myself, but failed.

Great work though.

Sadistik said:

Casllwchwr
Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

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I think you missed some a, e, o and U somewhere...
maybe you typed it as a Qwerty keyboard and it was an azerty?

i'm really impressed by these names, how do you pronounce them?

LAnkou said:

I think you missed some a, e, o and U somewhere...
maybe you typed it as a Qwerty keyboard and it was an azerty?

i'm really impressed by these names, how do you pronounce them?

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Often with great difficulty if you don't grow up with it or speak the language.
You do get hilarious amounts of fun trying to teach your English friends to pronounce them...In a non-cruel way of course.

ddraig said:

A unique unit could be a better Long bow man? The weapon was created by the Welsh and adopted by the Normans/English....and most Norman/English armies recruited and prized Welsh archers.

Either way, i've been waiting for someone to make this....I tried myself, but failed.

Great work though.

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The UU is a better Longbowman.

LAnkou said:

I think you missed some a, e, o and U somewhere...
maybe you typed it as a Qwerty keyboard and it was an azerty?

i'm really impressed by these names, how do you pronounce them?

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OK, you asked for it.

"Llanfairpwllgwyngyll" isn't the real name of the town.

It's actually "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch". (Without the space. For some reason the forums made that.))

I just didn't want to torture anyone who intended to play Wales by forcing them to hit backspace thirty times.

And it is known as "Llanfairpwllgwyngyll" (or "Llanfair P. G."), it's pronounced:-

(all "ch"'s are pronounced as in "Loch" as opposed to as in 'chair')

Lan-fire-pool-gwin-gych-gor-gare-ooch-chwin-drob-wych-chlan-tuh-silly-oh-gor-gor-gorch.

Best I can do I'm afraid. Not a phonetics expert!

that's truly,impressive....
i can imagine it is done that way so english can't know where they are and so they lose themselves in wales. Then the governement decide that wales is a forbidden land and no english can enter.....

It means in English "St Mary's church in the hollow of the white hazel near a rapid whirlpool and the church of St Tysilio near the red cave". There were towns called "Llandysiliogogoch", and "Llanfairpwllgwyngyll" ("Church of St Tysilio near the Red Cave" and "St Mary's church in the hollow of the white hazel") close to each other in Victorian Times. When the Industrial revolution occurred they didn't want to put a station in both so they put a station between them (near a rapid whirlpool: "Chwyndrobwyll"), and - as it was near a station - the town grew up, so much so that the original two towns are now suburbs of Llanfair PG.

It's not the biggest named town in Wales, with a town on the Fairbourne Railway known as Gorsafawddacha'idraigodanheddogleddollônpenrhynareurdraethceredigion.

just imagine the guy who fill an application form, and mispell the city name at the end of it....

LAnkou said:

just imagine the guy who fill an application form, and mispell the city name at the end of it....

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Job app?

I thought all Welshies were shepherds... Or, at least, they're very fond of shepe.

Sadistik said:

Job app?

I thought all Welshies were shepherds... Or, at least, they're very fond of shepe.

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More sheep in England...and statistics show that there are more 'relations' across the border. However, best not turn this into a Native V Anglo Saxon debate

Fear not. I'm not one to defend the Anglo-Saxon-Jutes. It's bad enough I was forced by the sword to speak their heathen tongue.

ddraig said:

More sheep in England...and statistics show that there are more 'relations' across the border. However, best not turn this into a Native V Anglo Saxon debate

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Hugely off topic, but have you got an article with those statistics on? I REALLY want to drop the whole "Sheep Lover" (not the real word, but there could be kids here) monniker associated with my English mates

rhyswynne said:

Hugely off topic, but have you got an article with those statistics on? I REALLY want to drop the whole "Sheep Lover" (not the real word, but there could be kids here) monniker associated with my English mates

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Sorry was a bit off topic...but just replying to the one above.

Are there any stats.....to be honest i'd be too afraid to search the net for something like that...., just in case I get directed to a 'specialist' area.

If you're English mates wind you up with those jokes, just say it's why it tastes so good!!!

Or tell them that the breed of sheep that currently are so abundant in Wales and the Uk as a whole, were imported here by their Norman ancestors, specifically from Burgandy.....and then suggest that perhaps the joke is just an historic way of them passing the buck.........

Swiftly moving on though........ I've been playing around with this civ, and it's good. I like how the place names are in their Welsh form.
I'm looking forward to a time when we can have custom city graphics, it wood be great to see a city develop into hill fort etc...

Sadistik said:

Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

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how did you get beyond the 15 character limit?