stSBNES5 "What We Will Become"

Stormbringer · Dec 31, 2005, 02:30 PM

MOSCOW, December 31 (RIA Novosti) - The following list is what many RIA Novosti correspondents consider the 10 most important world events of 2005.

1. The failure of the European Constitution. By voting against the European Constitutional Treaty at a national referendum, France caused heated debates on the future of the European Union.

2. A terrorist act in London overshadowed the G8 summit in Gleneagles, Scotland, and spoiled Britons' joy over London's election as the host city for the 2012 Olympics. Four explosive devices went off in the underground and a bus, leaving 50 people dead and about 700 injured.

3. The death of Pope John Paul II marked the end of an era in the life of the Roman-Catholic Church and modern history.

4. The outbreaks of interethnic violence in wealthy European countries and Australia.

5. The disengagement of Israeli troops and settlements from the Gaza Strip and the West Bank caused a split in Israeli society and made Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who once initiated the creation of these settlements, quit the ruling party.

6. Hurricane Katrina in the United States showed that the world's leading super power was unprepared to deal with the aftermath of the natural disaster. The hurricane destroyed the cradle of jazz, New Orleans.

7. Talk of a possible civil war resumed in Lebanon for the first time since 1975 following the assassination of Lebanon's former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri and the withdrawal of Syrian troops from the country. An international commission reported to the UN in October 2005 that senior officials in Syria and Lebanon could have had a hand in the assassination.

8. Latin America "tilted to the left" a great deal in 2005. Venezuela, Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina and Bolivia formed a new political alliance based on anti-American sentiments. Ultra radical leftist politician Evo Morales was elected president of Bolivia. The United States failed to create a free trade zone in the region.

9. The trial of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein triggered debate about whether convicting the dictator would help bring stability or cause a new wave of violence in Iraq.

10. Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadi-Nejad's anti-Semitic statements outraged the world and complicated Tehran's efforts to prevent its "nuclear file" from being handed over to the UN Security Council.

Rules

Government- This is the type of government used by a nation. It reflects both the structure and ideology of the government.

Economy- This is the measure of a nation’s general economic health. It is an overview of the entire economy, including production, investment, exportation, and purchasing activity.

Gross National Income(GNI)- This is the total income of all people, corporations, companies, etc. that are within the nation. Coinsidently since this is the total income this is the total taxable amount. (Tarriffs and such will not be represented)

Growth- Very straight forward. This is the current growth rate of the country's GNI. It is affected by a number of things, one of the most important being the tax rate.

Tax- The average tax rate from 0% to 100%. I am not going to deal with different taxes on different incomes, etc, you just set one tax rate for the GNI.

Upkeep- The minimum that needs to be paid to keep your country's quality of life, literacy, and quality of armed forces from falling. You can chose to use this money elsewhere, but be prepared for the consequences. This money is NOT included in your revenue.

Revenue- This is how much you make from taxes after paying the upkeep, or in NESing terms the actual economy you can spend.

Debt- External Foreign Debt of a country. I will not get into who lends money to whom, but the fact remains you should pay it back, and we will asume that you can borrow a reasonable amount.

Industry- This is the industrial capacity of a country. It is split into civil and military industry, should be very straight forward from there. The growth rate of the inudstry is related to the growth rate of the GNI, the more people make the more they invest in the industry, easy?

Literacy- The percentage of adult population of a country that is literate. Higher literacy - better economy, faster research. Costs you in the upkeep though.

Quality of Life- This is an overview of the standard of living in a country. Quality of Life is dependent primarily upon Economic health and Social Services expenditure, and in turn affects the quality of economy and military. Goes from 1 to 10.Literacy- This is the percentage of a nation’s population which can read and write in their native language with a sufficient level of proficiency. Literacy is primarily dependent on Education and Quality of Life.

Army- These are the land forces of a nation.

Navy- These are the naval forces of a nation.

Air Force- These are the air forces of a nation.

Strategic Forces- I think you guessed it, these are the strategic forces of a nation.

Projects- Major projects of the nation, will take both money and time to complete, works just like other NESes.

Advances- Nations (in cooperation with other nations or with private corporations) can develop new technologies. Development costs and times vary.

Stormbringer · Dec 31, 2005, 02:31 PM

Active Players:

Australia - Goober
Canada - Lord_Iggy
Ukraine - Cleric
Nigeria - andis-1
Greece - KrimzonStriker
Iran - Grandmaster
Japan - Contempt
Russia - Gelion
Germany - von_Seydlitz
South Korea - tommy_toon

All stats are in the file. Sorry for that but it takes way to long to make the stats look presentable here so I cant do it for all the 194 countries. If you have questions, ask me.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/MNES2.zip

Stormbringer · Dec 31, 2005, 02:31 PM

Stormbringer · Dec 31, 2005, 02:32 PM

Here are the different weapon designs. It should be mostly self-explanatory as to who has access to what designs, but if you are not sure you can contact me and ask. Eventually it will be put in the stats.

Weapons

Australian Designs

Howard Class Heavy Cruiser - 2007 - A nuclear-powered heavy cruiser designed as a support vessel for an aircraft group. Carries a vide arsenal of missiles and is designed with the best naval and electronic technology available to date, but is smaller in size than most ships of this class.

Stormbringer · Dec 31, 2005, 02:32 PM

and I am still not done, dont even dream of it

Stormbringer · Dec 31, 2005, 02:33 PM

do you know how many countries there are in the world? I do now

Stormbringer · Dec 31, 2005, 02:34 PM

No, I am not reserving a post for all of them, in case you were wondering.

Stormbringer · Dec 31, 2005, 02:34 PM

For the record there are 193 ententies which will be considered countries in this NES. I wonder if that's a record?

Stormbringer · Dec 31, 2005, 02:35 PM

And I think this is the last post, you may all post, rules will be up in a minute

JosefStalinator · Dec 31, 2005, 02:36 PM

Ill take the UK... though still not sure if i wanna take Germany...

Insane_Panda · Dec 31, 2005, 02:37 PM

I taken der USA!

Harleqin · Dec 31, 2005, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormbringer

And I think this is the last post, you may all post, rules will be up in a minute

Claiming India. If possible of course

Otherwise I'll go with Nigeria. If not possible either then South Africa. Finally, should all else fail, then I'll take Greece.

So, India is for me

Grandmaster · Dec 31, 2005, 02:39 PM

Iran, please.

conehead234 · Dec 31, 2005, 02:40 PM

France or Germany

andis-1 · Dec 31, 2005, 02:40 PM

NIGERIA FOR MEEEEE!!!!

Stormbringer · Dec 31, 2005, 02:55 PM

rules are up

Now if someone will make me a list of current conflicts in the world, with start date, who is involved and what they are fighting over I would apreciate it.

Also, to redeem himself Panda is making a list of the most important world organizations and their members and I am sure he would apreciate some help.

Harleqin · Dec 31, 2005, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormbringer

rules are up

Now if someone will make me a list of current conflicts in the world, with start date, who is involved and what they are fighting over I would apreciate it.

Also, to redeem himself Panda is making a list of the most important world organizations and their members and I am sure he would apreciate some help.

I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Should have time for it. Just the most important, a top-10 or some such?

People can PM me suggestions to conflicts they feel I should remember. Just in case.

Azale · Dec 31, 2005, 03:07 PM

Ill take France, cone you can have Germany...Ive chosen for you

Gelion · Dec 31, 2005, 03:09 PM

I call on...... let me think..... China! If das doesn't take Russia it shall be mine.....

conehead234 · Dec 31, 2005, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azale

Ill take France, cone you can have Germany...Ive chosen for you

You ($)#^$#. Ok, fine. Looks like i'll have to do the old thru the low countries to Paris.

Dec 31, 2005, 02:30 PM	#1
Stormbringer The Brick and The Rose Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,315	stSBNES5 "What We Will Become" MOSCOW, December 31 (RIA Novosti) - The following list is what many RIA Novosti correspondents consider the 10 most important world events of 2005. 1. The failure of the European Constitution. By voting against the European Constitutional Treaty at a national referendum, France caused heated debates on the future of the European Union. 2. A terrorist act in London overshadowed the G8 summit in Gleneagles, Scotland, and spoiled Britons' joy over London's election as the host city for the 2012 Olympics. Four explosive devices went off in the underground and a bus, leaving 50 people dead and about 700 injured. 3. The death of Pope John Paul II marked the end of an era in the life of the Roman-Catholic Church and modern history. 4. The outbreaks of interethnic violence in wealthy European countries and Australia. 5. The disengagement of Israeli troops and settlements from the Gaza Strip and the West Bank caused a split in Israeli society and made Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who once initiated the creation of these settlements, quit the ruling party. 6. Hurricane Katrina in the United States showed that the world's leading super power was unprepared to deal with the aftermath of the natural disaster. The hurricane destroyed the cradle of jazz, New Orleans. 7. Talk of a possible civil war resumed in Lebanon for the first time since 1975 following the assassination of Lebanon's former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri and the withdrawal of Syrian troops from the country. An international commission reported to the UN in October 2005 that senior officials in Syria and Lebanon could have had a hand in the assassination. 8. Latin America "tilted to the left" a great deal in 2005. Venezuela, Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina and Bolivia formed a new political alliance based on anti-American sentiments. Ultra radical leftist politician Evo Morales was elected president of Bolivia. The United States failed to create a free trade zone in the region. 9. The trial of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein triggered debate about whether convicting the dictator would help bring stability or cause a new wave of violence in Iraq. 10. Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadi-Nejad's anti-Semitic statements outraged the world and complicated Tehran's efforts to prevent its "nuclear file" from being handed over to the UN Security Council. Rules Government- This is the type of government used by a nation. It reflects both the structure and ideology of the government. Economy- This is the measure of a nation’s general economic health. It is an overview of the entire economy, including production, investment, exportation, and purchasing activity. Gross National Income(GNI)- This is the total income of all people, corporations, companies, etc. that are within the nation. Coinsidently since this is the total income this is the total taxable amount. (Tarriffs and such will not be represented) Growth- Very straight forward. This is the current growth rate of the country's GNI. It is affected by a number of things, one of the most important being the tax rate. Tax- The average tax rate from 0% to 100%. I am not going to deal with different taxes on different incomes, etc, you just set one tax rate for the GNI. Upkeep- The minimum that needs to be paid to keep your country's quality of life, literacy, and quality of armed forces from falling. You can chose to use this money elsewhere, but be prepared for the consequences. This money is NOT included in your revenue. Revenue- This is how much you make from taxes after paying the upkeep, or in NESing terms the actual economy you can spend. Debt- External Foreign Debt of a country. I will not get into who lends money to whom, but the fact remains you should pay it back, and we will asume that you can borrow a reasonable amount. Industry- This is the industrial capacity of a country. It is split into civil and military industry, should be very straight forward from there. The growth rate of the inudstry is related to the growth rate of the GNI, the more people make the more they invest in the industry, easy? Literacy- The percentage of adult population of a country that is literate. Higher literacy - better economy, faster research. Costs you in the upkeep though. Quality of Life- This is an overview of the standard of living in a country. Quality of Life is dependent primarily upon Economic health and Social Services expenditure, and in turn affects the quality of economy and military. Goes from 1 to 10.Literacy- This is the percentage of a nation’s population which can read and write in their native language with a sufficient level of proficiency. Literacy is primarily dependent on Education and Quality of Life. Army- These are the land forces of a nation. Navy- These are the naval forces of a nation. Air Force- These are the air forces of a nation. Strategic Forces- I think you guessed it, these are the strategic forces of a nation. Projects- Major projects of the nation, will take both money and time to complete, works just like other NESes. Advances- Nations (in cooperation with other nations or with private corporations) can develop new technologies. Development costs and times vary. __________________ The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else. -Umberto Eco Last edited by Stormbringer; Dec 31, 2005 at 02:54 PM.

Dec 31, 2005, 02:31 PM	#2
Stormbringer The Brick and The Rose Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,315	Active Players: Australia - Goober Canada - Lord_Iggy Ukraine - Cleric Nigeria - andis-1 Greece - KrimzonStriker Iran - Grandmaster Japan - Contempt Russia - Gelion Germany - von_Seydlitz South Korea - tommy_toon All stats are in the file. Sorry for that but it takes way to long to make the stats look presentable here so I cant do it for all the 194 countries. If you have questions, ask me. http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/MNES2.zip __________________ The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else. -Umberto Eco Last edited by Stormbringer; Jan 21, 2006 at 12:08 PM.

Dec 31, 2005, 02:31 PM	#3
Stormbringer The Brick and The Rose Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,315	__________________ The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else. -Umberto Eco Last edited by Stormbringer; Dec 31, 2005 at 03:59 PM.

Dec 31, 2005, 02:32 PM	#4
Stormbringer The Brick and The Rose Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,315	Here are the different weapon designs. It should be mostly self-explanatory as to who has access to what designs, but if you are not sure you can contact me and ask. Eventually it will be put in the stats. Weapons Australian Designs Howard Class Heavy Cruiser - 2007 - A nuclear-powered heavy cruiser designed as a support vessel for an aircraft group. Carries a vide arsenal of missiles and is designed with the best naval and electronic technology available to date, but is smaller in size than most ships of this class. __________________ The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else. -Umberto Eco Last edited by Stormbringer; Jan 20, 2006 at 05:17 PM.

Dec 31, 2005, 02:32 PM	#5
Stormbringer The Brick and The Rose Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,315	and I am still not done, dont even dream of it __________________ The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else. -Umberto Eco

Dec 31, 2005, 02:33 PM	#6
Stormbringer The Brick and The Rose Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,315	do you know how many countries there are in the world? I do now __________________ The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else. -Umberto Eco

Dec 31, 2005, 02:34 PM	#7
Stormbringer The Brick and The Rose Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,315	No, I am not reserving a post for all of them, in case you were wondering. __________________ The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else. -Umberto Eco

Dec 31, 2005, 02:35 PM	#9
Stormbringer The Brick and The Rose Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,315	And I think this is the last post, you may all post, rules will be up in a minute __________________ The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else. -Umberto Eco

Dec 31, 2005, 02:36 PM	#10
JosefStalinator Я буду снова здесь Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,380	Ill take the UK... though still not sure if i wanna take Germany... __________________ Proud NESer since 2004 http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=69 OMINOUS CHANGES

Dec 31, 2005, 02:37 PM	#11
Insane_Panda Deity Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 8,594	I taken der USA! __________________ Like History? Like Civ? Join a NES.

Dec 31, 2005, 02:39 PM	#13
Grandmaster Deity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 3,058	Iran, please.

Dec 31, 2005, 02:40 PM	#14
conehead234 Braves on the Warpath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: maryland Posts: 4,384	France or Germany __________________ Hail to the Redskins, Hail Victory!

Dec 31, 2005, 02:40 PM	#15
andis-1 The Hedgehog Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: finland Posts: 3,049	NIGERIA FOR MEEEEE!!!! __________________ Urban Symphony... My political compass: Economic Left/Right: -7.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

Dec 31, 2005, 02:55 PM	#16
Stormbringer The Brick and The Rose Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,315	rules are up Now if someone will make me a list of current conflicts in the world, with start date, who is involved and what they are fighting over I would apreciate it. Also, to redeem himself Panda is making a list of the most important world organizations and their members and I am sure he would apreciate some help. __________________ The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else. -Umberto Eco

Dec 31, 2005, 03:07 PM	#18
Azale Natural Killer Cyborg Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 17,381	Ill take France, cone you can have Germany...Ive chosen for you __________________ *호랑이도 제 말하면 온다 \| If you speak of the tiger, it will come.* - Korean Proverb NESes: End of Empires, Capto Iugulum Chat at #nes! Chat at #fiftychat! Leftists in the open! "im a volume shooter, they told me i need a permit for the scooter"**

Dec 31, 2005, 03:09 PM	#19
Gelion Captain Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Earth Dome Posts: 11,130	I call on...... let me think..... China! If das doesn't take Russia it shall be mine..... __________________ I invite you to watch Robotech, one of the greatest anime series ever created in the 80's! You will find the Macross Saga here, the Robotech Masters here, and the New Generation here. Enjoy it as much as I do!

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