Emancipation TOO Powerful?

mythmonster2

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• Jan 23, 2006

• #1

All right I've seen the civics screen and played a short game of civ 4 but one thing bugged me and that is emancipation. I think that Emancipation should only give unhappiness to civs running slavery or serfdom. Any comments?

 

Flying Couch

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• Jan 23, 2006

• #2

The only other two besides those are Tribalism and Caste system, and if you think about it people would still probably be emancipated over either of those

 

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• Jan 23, 2006

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mythmonster2 said:

All right I've seen the civics screen and played a short game of civ 4 but one thing bugged me and that is emancipation. I think that Emancipation should only give unhappiness to civs running slavery or serfdom. Any comments?

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I changed lots of the original civics that did not make sense along with adding quite a few of my own. Emancipation was one, yes.

 

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• Jan 23, 2006

• #4

I agree... I really dislike the game forcing you into a particular civic (either through this method, or through the UN). Emancipation isn't selected because its good, its selected because you basically have to. Horrible.

 

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• Jan 23, 2006

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Actually, I'm always sad to have to give up slavery, as it is ideal for getting new cities up to speed quickly, especially in the rare case in which you can combine it with biology. Depending on the map/game speed, serfdom is also preferable - the water mills required by state property take a while to build. I've never seen reason to take the finanical hit required by caste, except for the game where I went for the infinite Great Merchant city.

 

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• Jan 23, 2006

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Oh yeah, and then there's vassalage.

Warmongers delight.

 

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pachu

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• Jan 23, 2006

• #7

I'm thinking emancipation should only affect civs with open borders agreement with civs using the emancipation civic. Why? Because a closed society wouldn't know much about the lifestyle of other civs.

 

playshogi

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• Jan 23, 2006

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Actually, in my last game, I did not have Democracy, so I couldn't switch. So, I made great efforts to secure more happiness resources, build Hollywood, and broadcast towers, cheap theaters, and I did OK (on monarch) while also getting some war weariness as well. What I had a hard time figuring out is why some cities had -5 hit for emancipation while other cities only had -3. Plus, only 3 other civs remained in the game only 2 of which had democracy.

 

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• Jan 24, 2006

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Hey Dude,

Any chance you could post your 'Religious Victory Mod' here for me to download ?

Thanks in advance,

Fung

 

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• Jan 24, 2006

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fung3 said:

Hey Dude,

Any chance you could post your 'Religious Victory Mod' here for me to download ?

Thanks in advance,

Fung

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C:\Documents and Settings\My Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\CustomAssets\xml\gameinfo. That's where the file goes. It opens up the religious victory condition.

 

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