Civ4 Finnish translation

Kahkonen · Feb 02, 2006, 03:39 AM

Hi!

I have translated Civ 4 into Finnish. We had also a Civilopedia translation group which finished the project in 22nd July 2006. I will continue fixing translation, and upload new versions to homepage every now and then.

Whole vanilla Civ and Civ 4 Warlords has been completely translated.

Download the newest version from the translation's homepage.

Translations works also with Beyond the Sword expansion, but there are some untranslated strings in them. There is a translation project for BtS: LoR Finnish translation.

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Moi!

Olen kääntänyt Civ 4:n suomeksi (ja Civilopedian käänsi pikku työryhmä). Julkaisin käännöksen 13.2.2006. Civ 4 Warlords -lisäosa on myös käännetty kokonaan. Lataa sen uusin versio suomennossivulta. Suomennokset toimivat myös Beyond the Sword -lisäosan kanssa.

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See also other projects:
Russian translation
Catalan translation
Hungarian translation
Dutch translation

Junuxx · Feb 02, 2006, 05:46 AM

Wow, that must have been quite a lot of work. Good job! I'm sure that CivFanatics and Apolyton will put in on the front page. As for Firaxis, I don't know? I have never seen user-made content on their official site anyway.

Kahkonen · Feb 02, 2006, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junuxx

Wow, that must have been quite a lot of work. Good job!

Thanks. I started translating it on November. I have now translated almost everything but not Civilopedia (which I don't even think to translate). I think I can publish its final version on 13th this month. There is still some 200 lines to translate.

Kahkonen · Feb 03, 2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahkonen

There is still some 200 lines to translate.

Now it is "ready", and only I have to do is typofixing.

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Junuxx · Feb 03, 2006, 05:36 PM

You can submit a news item to Civfanatics here. I'm sure they'll appreciate it.

Kahkonen · Feb 03, 2006, 06:04 PM

Ok, but not yet. There is still some minor annoying mistakes in translation which I will fix during next week.

Wolfwood · Feb 03, 2006, 11:05 PM

Whoa, that must have been quite a job... I didn't even know that it is possible with all the verb forms etc. creating havoc in Finnish.

Have you actually had time to play the game?

Kahkonen · Feb 04, 2006, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

Whoa, that must have been quite a job... I didn't even know that it is possible with all the verb forms etc. creating havoc in Finnish.

Have you actually had time to play the game?

Not so much :-) Only three or four games in three months :-) But I of course had to test translation and so had to play.

It was quite a hard job just because of ~~verb~~ noun forms. I solved it so that I added a inflected word before unit names, leader names etc. so it doesn't sound so stupid :-)

Example for them who can Finnish: "Yksikkösi Jousimies on tuhonnut vastustajan yksikön Sotanorsu". (I think I should change all unit names in lowercase...)

(It is btw easier translate into Finnish than write in English)

Junuxx · Feb 04, 2006, 06:58 AM

Could you please give a short explanation of the difficulties with Finnish verb forms?
I must admit I don't know much about Finnish, and the Wikipedia article on Finnish language didn't mention anything about the verbs.

If you don't feel like writing an explanation, that's fine, I'm just curious

Kahkonen · Feb 04, 2006, 07:57 AM

Oops, I meant noun forms. There was not problems with verb forms (to do - tehdä, I do - teen, you do - teet, he does - tekee, we do - teemme, you do - teette, they do - tekevät) because I every time could use their inflected form. But nouns like Warrior, Library, Persian Empire... I could use only their basic forms.

For example Finnish word "vesi" (water):

water - vesi
to water - veteen
in water - vedessä
as water - vetenä
water's - veden

there is no way to use it like in English "to/in/as/etc [TERRAIN_WATER]". So I had to add word "terrain" and write like "maastoon/maastossa/maastona [TERRAIN_WATER]" (to terrain [], in terrain []...)

So did I with other also:
"Tuhosi yksikön [UNIT]" - "Destroyed [UNIT]"
"Valtakunnan [EMPIRE] kansa" - "[EMPIRE]'s people"
"Johtajaa [LEADER] vastaan" - "against [LEADER]"
...

Exel · Feb 04, 2006, 08:35 AM

Hmm. Interesting. I think I might be able to help you out with translating Civilopedia, at least parts of it.

Kahkonen · Feb 04, 2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exel

Hmm. Interesting. I think I might be able to help you out with translating Civilopedia, at least parts of it.

I'm not translating Civilopedia :-> However, copypaste from Finnish Wikipedia could help... :-) But noo... too much work.

Exel · Feb 04, 2006, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahkonen

I'm not translating Civilopedia :-> However, copypaste from Finnish Wikipedia could help... :-) But noo... too much work.

Why's that? Couldn't you try to recruit a few more Finns to help out with it?

Kahkonen · Feb 04, 2006, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exel

Why's that? Couldn't you try to recruit a few more Finns to help out with it?

I think it isn't necessary to translate it. However, there is some 400 Sid's hints. If you want to help with those, CIV4GameText_Strategy.xml (in mod) is the file where they are. Please contact me, so that we don't translate same texts twice.

I have asked some, but nobody has been interested in translating... :-(

anjf · Feb 05, 2006, 05:01 AM

So I read the files, you add the text form finnish to the xml files and removed al the other such as german and french is that correct? If it is, is that all that has to be done in order to play with another tongue?

Kahkonen · Feb 05, 2006, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anjf

So I read the files, you add the text form finnish to the xml files and removed al the other such as german and french is that correct? If it is, is that all that has to be done in order to play with another tongue?

I did so, because otherwise download file would become too big and because translating was easier when there were only the English and Finnish texts.

It is easy to return other languages (with a little program) and I'll maybe do it before final publication...

(I answered you about this in your thread http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=157642)

Kahkonen · Feb 10, 2006, 01:10 PM

I don't know why, but all great persons' names are still in their English form...

Kahkonen · Feb 12, 2006, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahkonen

I don't know why, but all great persons' names are still in their English form...

Solved this problem at last. There is CIV4UnitInfos.xml in every mod and they have for some reason lines:
<UniqueName>Moses</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Mahavira</UniqueName>

When they should be:
<UniqueName>TXT_KEY_GREAT_PERSON_MOSES</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>TXT_KEY_GREAT_PERSON_MAHAVIRA</UniqueName>

Kahkonen · Feb 13, 2006, 03:33 AM

Hi!

Now it is ready.

Junuxx · Feb 13, 2006, 12:24 PM

I think the build menu (in the screenshot) as well as the bottom left unit info would look better if all options started with a capital letter. But that's just the opinion of a guy who doesn't know Finnish at all

Feb 02, 2006, 03:39 AM	#1
Kahkonen Warlord Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 150	Civ4 Finnish translation Hi! I have translated Civ 4 into Finnish. We had also a Civilopedia translation group which finished the project in 22nd July 2006. I will continue fixing translation, and upload new versions to homepage every now and then. Whole vanilla Civ and Civ 4 Warlords has been completely translated. Download the newest version from the translation's homepage. Translations works also with Beyond the Sword expansion, but there are some untranslated strings in them. There is a translation project for BtS: LoR Finnish translation. ---- Moi! Olen kääntänyt Civ 4:n suomeksi (ja Civilopedian käänsi pikku työryhmä). Julkaisin käännöksen 13.2.2006. Civ 4 Warlords -lisäosa on myös käännetty kokonaan. Lataa sen uusin versio suomennossivulta. Suomennokset toimivat myös Beyond the Sword -lisäosan kanssa. ---- See also other projects: Russian translation Catalan translation Hungarian translation Dutch translation __________________ Moreover, I advise that ceded territories should be returned. - Marcus Porcius Careliato ---- * FinlandMod v1.1 for Civ3 1.29f (thread) * Civ 4 1.74 -suomennos v1.93/090520 & Civ 4 Warlords -suomennos v1.01/100520, toimii myös BTS:ssä (= Finnish translation, see thread) * FinMod-suomennos v1.30/060425 Last edited by Kahkonen; Apr 24, 2010 at 09:59 AM. Reason: information about Warlords translation

Feb 02, 2006, 05:46 AM	#2
Junuxx King Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 984	Wow, that must have been quite a lot of work. Good job! I'm sure that CivFanatics and Apolyton will put in on the front page. As for Firaxis, I don't know? I have never seen user-made content on their official site anyway. __________________ Check out my Atlas MapGenerator (v0.43) Generate, preview and play Civ IV maps of any size with the alternative Map Generator -6.75, -7.13

Feb 03, 2006, 05:36 PM	#5
Junuxx King Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 984	You can submit a news item to Civfanatics here. I'm sure they'll appreciate it. __________________ Check out my Atlas MapGenerator (v0.43) Generate, preview and play Civ IV maps of any size with the alternative Map Generator -6.75, -7.13

Feb 03, 2006, 06:04 PM	#6
Kahkonen Warlord Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 150	Ok, but not yet. There is still some minor annoying mistakes in translation which I will fix during next week. __________________ Moreover, I advise that ceded territories should be returned. - Marcus Porcius Careliato ---- * FinlandMod v1.1 for Civ3 1.29f (thread) * Civ 4 1.74 -suomennos v1.93/090520 & Civ 4 Warlords -suomennos v1.01/100520, toimii myös BTS:ssä (= Finnish translation, see thread) * FinMod-suomennos v1.30/060425

Feb 04, 2006, 06:58 AM	#9
Junuxx King Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 984	Could you please give a short explanation of the difficulties with Finnish verb forms? I must admit I don't know much about Finnish, and the Wikipedia article on Finnish language didn't mention anything about the verbs. If you don't feel like writing an explanation, that's fine, I'm just curious __________________ Check out my Atlas MapGenerator (v0.43) Generate, preview and play Civ IV maps of any size with the alternative Map Generator -6.75, -7.13

Feb 03, 2006, 11:05 PM	#7
Wolfwood Elite Commander Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 635	Whoa, that must have been quite a job... I didn't even know that it is possible with all the verb forms etc. creating havoc in Finnish. Have you actually had time to play the game?

Feb 04, 2006, 07:57 AM	#10
Kahkonen Warlord Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 150	Oops, I meant noun forms. There was not problems with verb forms (to do - tehdä, I do - teen, you do - teet, he does - tekee, we do - teemme, you do - teette, they do - tekevät) because I every time could use their inflected form. But nouns like Warrior, Library, Persian Empire... I could use only their basic forms. For example Finnish word "vesi" (water): water - vesi to water - veteen in water - vedessä as water - vetenä water's - veden there is no way to use it like in English "to/in/as/etc [TERRAIN_WATER]". So I had to add word "terrain" and write like "maastoon/maastossa/maastona [TERRAIN_WATER]" (to terrain [], in terrain []...) So did I with other also: "Tuhosi yksikön [UNIT]" - "Destroyed [UNIT]" "Valtakunnan [EMPIRE] kansa" - "[EMPIRE]'s people" "Johtajaa [LEADER] vastaan" - "against [LEADER]" ... __________________ Moreover, I advise that ceded territories should be returned. - Marcus Porcius Careliato ---- * FinlandMod v1.1 for Civ3 1.29f (thread) * Civ 4 1.74 -suomennos v1.93/090520 & Civ 4 Warlords -suomennos v1.01/100520, toimii myös BTS:ssä (= Finnish translation, see thread) * FinMod-suomennos v1.30/060425 Last edited by Kahkonen; May 20, 2009 at 08:03 PM.

Feb 04, 2006, 08:35 AM	#11
Exel Prince Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 440	Hmm. Interesting. I think I might be able to help you out with translating Civilopedia, at least parts of it.

Feb 05, 2006, 05:01 AM	#15
anjf Warlord Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Netherlands, European Union Posts: 143	So I read the files, you add the text form finnish to the xml files and removed al the other such as german and french is that correct? If it is, is that all that has to be done in order to play with another tongue?

Feb 10, 2006, 01:10 PM	#17
Kahkonen Warlord Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 150	I don't know why, but all great persons' names are still in their English form... __________________ Moreover, I advise that ceded territories should be returned. - Marcus Porcius Careliato ---- * FinlandMod v1.1 for Civ3 1.29f (thread) * Civ 4 1.74 -suomennos v1.93/090520 & Civ 4 Warlords -suomennos v1.01/100520, toimii myös BTS:ssä (= Finnish translation, see thread) * FinMod-suomennos v1.30/060425

Feb 13, 2006, 03:33 AM	#19
Kahkonen Warlord Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 150	Finnish translation is ready Hi! Now it is ready. __________________ Moreover, I advise that ceded territories should be returned. - Marcus Porcius Careliato ---- * FinlandMod v1.1 for Civ3 1.29f (thread) * Civ 4 1.74 -suomennos v1.93/090520 & Civ 4 Warlords -suomennos v1.01/100520, toimii myös BTS:ssä (= Finnish translation, see thread) * FinMod-suomennos v1.30/060425

Feb 13, 2006, 12:24 PM	#20
Junuxx King Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 984	I think the build menu (in the screenshot) as well as the bottom left unit info would look better if all options started with a capital letter. But that's just the opinion of a guy who doesn't know Finnish at all __________________ Check out my Atlas MapGenerator (v0.43) Generate, preview and play Civ IV maps of any size with the alternative Map Generator -6.75, -7.13

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