Open borders with Russia

Pajka

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I'd like to open discussion on this topic as I think that it might help us.
I see the following benefits:
1) increased commerce from trade routes
2) better relationship with Russia - probably our future allies against Germany
 
So long as there aren't any spots in our territory where they could settle, I'm game.

But wouldn't it be better to get a future ally that is closer to Germany?
 
I would like to fill in our little circle before signing any open border agreements.
 
Open borders are a layup IMO. I don't think the Russians will looking to fill in our space. If they do it would undoubtedly take them at least 10 turns to get there and could be cancelled.
 
I would approach with caution before signing an open border treaty with them. Certanly I dont wish to see any of their settlers setteling within our sphear of influence where we have not settled in and our culture has not spread to yet.
 
potatokiosk said:
So long as there aren't any spots in our territory where they could settle, I'm game.
That's not a problem. If they aproach with a settler, we can immediatelly cancel the Open borders agreement (They are far away and they are unable to come in the first 10 turns while we cannot cancel the deal).

potatokiosk said:
But wouldn't it be better to get a future ally that is closer to Germany?
IMO Russia is the nearest neighbour to Germany.
 
Whomp's correct. We are too far away and judging by the scores, Peter is a little behind. There's no way that he's going to march a settler past the Mongols to settle right beside our capital.

Peter can be trusted as a long-term partner (experience in SP games) so long as he's not taken advantage of. I've even been able to ask Peter to go to war against another civ that I never had to declare on.

I'd suggest that we foster our relationship with Peter and gain him as an ally before Bismarck does!!
 
I agree with Tubby and would remind people that if either Peter or Genghis has a coastal city it wouldn't be all that hard for them to settle in our territory even without open borders. I don't think that we have our borders far enough into the ocean to prevent a galley from getting by.
 
Open them with Russia. I have never had a settler pass up territory to come behind my cultural borders for a city. Besides we will need a friend agaisnt Germany.
 
Although Russia could be a great ally against Bismark, we need to develop a good relationship with her if we are ever to take on the Mongols. The Mongolians and the Russians are currently pleased with each other, so if we go to war against Mongolia without first befriending Peter, Peter will be offended by our act. This could prevent us from ever allying with Peter, or worse yet, Gehngis might be able to get Peter to defend the Mongolian lands. For those reasons, I think we should actively ask Peter for Open Borders to develop a better relationship between our people.
 
Should we wait till the new Sec of State or do it now?. I think we should wait that way its a mandate to the new one.

What about mongolia..should we get one to in order to scout our eventual war with them?
 
The only nominee for State currently is Chieftess, and she already made her opinion well known during the turnchat on this issue...

I think we should get the poll up now so that the issue is already resolved before the Term 3 Sec. takes office. That way, they already have their "mandate" from the populous.

Does that make sense, or am I missing something?
 
nope...I figured you wanted this decided before the new sec of state took office so that the present one could get this done.
 
post the poll!!!
 
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