>>New Animation Possibilities (Combinations Post)

Ok, i thought about gathering here what combinations / switches of animations from one model to another work.

It is possible for some units to get the animation of another unit, just by changing the name of the nif files to the other units name and replacing the original.

For example:

Originally Posted by Ploeperpengel
Edit: could anyone please make a list what files exactly are to be renamed? I tried the female settler/jaguar combination and the female was only pink in nif viewer.

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Answer:
Copy and paste settler_female_128.dds, settler_female.nif, settler_female_fx.nif, settler_child_128.dds(if you need her staff).

rename settler_female.nif, settler_female_fx.nif
to aztec_jaguar.nif, aztec_jaguar_fx.nif.
Don't rename settler_female_128.dds, settler_child_128.dds.
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This tells almost everything you need, textures still need to be named like the !model! u use.
Model has to be named like the one you want the animation from.

look here for other information:
New Unit: Ork spearmananimation with warrior model

Ploeperpengel summarized in Post #3 all combination possibilities and he well update the list here frequently!

Post if u found out something new.

For example:
Melee units seem to work with other melee unit animations
Missionaries seem to work fine with most melee unit animations
For more details look at post#3

Please be creative and try some combinations and let us know what works, what not and perhaps post a screenshot if you aint sure what to think about it
Aim of this Thread is to extend the range of units available to all you modders out there.

sharick said:

@seZereth - do you know that you can play with effects the same way, switching the filenames. The innocent catapult dust cloud can be changed into nuclear explosion. It should be even easier because all the effects are controlled by 1 dummy object which has no bone structure. They might only differ in scale and orientation.

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Sounds very interesting! so go on folks, share your experience!

Here you can see the wierd things and the good things which come up when u play around with switching filenames! Look at all the following Posts to see many screenshots to get a good impression about the new possibilities opened by this technique and some other funny wierd stuff produced by it

BIG THANKS TO AYSE and all the other contributors

I decided to make this post useful and also to get a better overview on possibilities for myself. So this is going to be a summary of possible combinations which hopefully will have to be updated alot:

Edit: for left-arm bugfix see ayses post:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3862394&postcount=46

Edit: Bone renaming Rabbits Tutorial about the nif-viewer and here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3888693&postcount=54



works(more or less, see brackets):


Aztec Jaguar model-Grenadier animation (works, looks good, rename Bones)
buddhist-maceman(fine)
buddhist-spearman(fine)
buddhist-warrior(fine)
camel archer-horse archer(bad looking)
christian missionary model, warrior animation (Fine,good weapons)
christian missionary model, grenadier(works ok after Bones are renamed!)
confucian missionary model, Jaguar animation (Fine,cool)
conquistador-immortal(arms twisted, fixable)
conquistador model, keshik animation (Fine, perfect looking)
Engineer-Swordsman(rename bones!)
Engineer-Jaguar(rename bones!)
Female Settler model-Archer animation(bad looking)
Female Settler model-Axeman animation(bad looking)
Female Settler model-Grenadier animation (works, looks good, rename Bones)
Female Settler model-Praetorian animation(bad looking)
Female Settler model-Redcoat animation(bad looking)
Female Settler model, Jaguar animation (Head's hanging)
Female Settler model, Samurai animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, Pikeman animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, phalanx animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, quechua animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, swordsman animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, spearman animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, warrior animation (Fine)
greatprophet model-warrior animation (bad looking)
horse arche- camel archer(bad looking)
Immortal - Knight(small taint, unfixable atm)
Knight - Immortal(fixable leftarmbug, horse has broken legs)
Knight model, Keshik animation (soso, horse has broken legs)
Knights Templar-Phalanx(Fine)
Knights Templar-Pikeman(ok)
Knights Templar-Scout(Fine)
Knights Templar-Samurai(Fine)
Knights Templar-Swordsman(Fine)
Knights Templar-Warrior(Fine)
Keshik model, Knight animation (Fine)
Longbowman-Jagur(neckissue)
Longbowman-Maceman(Fine)
Longbowman-Knights Templar(fine)
Longbowman-Phalanx(Fine)
Longbowman-Swordsman(Fine)
Longbowman-Warrior(Fine)
Maceman - Pikeman (Fine)
Maceman - Spearman (works but one Animation the spear points backwards)
Maceman-Swordsman(how good?)
Maceman-Warrior(how good?)
modernmerchant model, swordsman animation (bad looking)
modernmerchant model, Jaguar animation (bad looking)
modernscientist model, warrior animation (bad looking)
Modern worker model, swordsman animation (Fine)
Phalanx-Pikeman(Fine)
Phalanx-Swordsman(almost)
Phalanx-Skirmisher(fine)
Pikeman-Phalanx(Fine)
Pikeman-Spearman(Fine)
Pikeman-Swordsman(Fine)
Samurai-Pikeman(fine)
Scout-Mali skirmisher(Fine, just little spear orientation errors)
Scout-Settler male(Fine)
Scout-Swordsman(Fine)
Settler male-Scout(Fine)
Spearman-Warrior (almost)
Swordman-Warrior(Fine)
Swordman-Spearman(Fine)
Taoist missionary model, swordsman animation (Fine)
Warrior-Axeman(Fine)
Warrior-spearman(fine)
Worker model, swordsman animation (Fine)

Navy Seal- Melee animation look here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3968244&postcount=76

Spy model-ancient units(rabbit fixed the model, works but looks bad. check this http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3958609&postcount=74)





doesn't work(Try renaming bones and post your experiences!):

Cavalry- Keshik
Companion Cavalry-Keshik
Female Settler model-Grenadier animation
Female Settler model-Infantry animation
Female Settler model-Marine animation
Female Settler model-Musketman animation
Female Settler model-Rifleman animation
Female Settler model-Musketeer animation
Female Settler model-Navy Seal animation
Great Artist-Anything
Hyspaspist-Phalanx(zombie, missing neckbone)
Immortal - Companion Cavalry
Immortal-conquistador
jewish missionary-axeman(but looks sweet)
jewish missionary-crossbowman(gnomebug)
jewish missionary-pikeman(gnome too)
jewish missionary-spearman(also gnome)
jewish missionary-warrior(looks gnomish)
machinegunner-infantry(won't animate)
modernartist model-warrior animation
Praetorian-Spearman
scientist model-Jaguar animation
rifleman-worker(freakshow)
taoist-warrior(no animation, maybe for a ghost)
Warrior-Archer
Warrior-Marine

@seZereth - do you know that you can play with effects the same way, switching the filenames. The innocent catapult dust cloud can be changed into nuclear explosion. It should be even easier because all the effects are controlled by 1 dummy object which has no bone structure. They might only differ in scale and orientation.

I will try....
...Samurai animation on different units (spear sword, etc...) and vise versa
...giving the Buddhist Missionary a combat animation
...giving the great artist a combat animation
...around with the conquistador (explorer) giving him other combat animations and weapons (need him for wh mod)

So if u want to, then please try something different

I'll try in the coming days :

Warrior-Quecha
Warrior-Maceman
Other warrior combination.

Knight model, Keshik animation (Fine)
Keshik model, Knight animation (Fine)

ayse said:

Knight model, Keshik animation (Fine)
Keshik model, Knight animation (Fine)

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Excellent!

ayse said:

Knight model, Keshik animation (Fine)

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Looks good except for poor horsies with broken legs. It doesn't seem to bother them though .

Female Settler model, Jaguar animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, Samurai animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, Pikeman animation (Fine)

They don't work

Female Settler model,

• Grenadier animation
• Infantry animation
• Marine animation
• Musketman animation
• Rifleman animation
• Musketeer animation
• Navy Seal animation

They are bad-looking, maybe work

Female Settler model

• Archer animation
• Axeman animation
• Praetorian animation
• Redcoat animation

Holy **** that looks sweet! Someone make me a witch elf out of the Female Settler Model, Jaguar Model, with 2 swords in hand...


Also, seZereth, could you check out the Jaguar Warrior with spear or pike animations? I want these dudes to be Tilea's Royal Guard:

ayse said:

Female Settler model, Jaguar animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, Samurai animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, Pikeman animation (Fine)

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Let the Amazones charge!

ayse said:

They don't work

Female Settler model,

• Grenadier animation
• Infantry animation
• Marine animation
• Musketman animation
• Rifleman animation
• Musketeer animation
• Navy Seal animation

They are bad-looking, maybe work

Female Settler model

• Archer animation
• Axeman animation
• Praetorian animation
• Redcoat animation

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cool! I think the pink staff is only because you didn't put it the male settlers dds files also in. The staff seems to be defined with the male model. Am I right?
For the witch elf above would be cool trying out the archer animation with only the two daggers.
Unfortunately my skill's still quite poor with this.

Ups: just noticed the arms and neck on second read, well think I was to eager on that one. still great to see there are animations making the female stop weeping in combat!

Let the Amazones charge!

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Yeah!

Female Settler model, phalanx animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, quechua animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, swordsman animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, spearman animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, warrior animation (Fine)


About the dagger, I will try it.

ayse said:

Yeah!

Female Settler model, phalanx animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, quechua animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, swordsman animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, spearman animation (Fine)
Female Settler model, warrior animation (Fine)


About the dagger, I will try it.

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....Nice !

Haha! This is totally awesome! I was wondering how we could do some female fighters - some serious texture work, maybe couple of 6-polygon lumps on the chest but with this working... Just off the top of my head - amazons (obviously), harpies, witches, vampires.

Maybe somebody could try some of missionary and great people models... Some of these would work great as wizards and other fantasy units but they don't have attack animations making them rather limited.

Ploeperpengel said:

For the witch elf above would be cool trying out the archer animation with only the two daggers.

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I couldn't use archer animation.
This unit is Female Settler model, Jaguar animation, Praetorian sword *2.

Common spearman and warrior is a bit bugged tho. Her arms are "twisted" in the guard stance for warrior, and the spear points backwards when she holds it above her head.

Ok, i got a warrior monk!!!!! to work
And Maceman to Swordsman, Warrior, Searman, Pikeman!
I found out that Great Artist wont work with combat animation.
Furthermore i found sme problem several times, the one with the left arm being twisted onto the back of the model. someoone should look into the nif files for this!

Great Stuff ayse!
Great Stuff witgh the female and most important, great stuff on the mounted units! well, ok little problem with horse, but i think a knight with a lance is worth much more than a twisted leg!!!
Keep on going people!
With this the variety of models is awesome!