City 4 Settlement Location

Where should we settle our 4th city


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Swissempire

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There are 3 choices, and here they are:

Site Alpha:
Site Alpha (see figure 1, CRIMSON). This gives us a vital six-plot choke line from the peak to the sea; access to gems after the expansion of our cultural borders; a fresh water tile with irrigation potential within the radius of the city; and a whopping eight hills in addition to the small contribution from the mine on the gems. This site, if chosen wisely, can become a productive center that immediately threatens the German gem mines - on which they will depend more than we, given that their dominance in that area will lead their trade to depend on the gem trade. It is this position that I believe is the strongest.

A great advantage of site Alpha is its occupation of a six plot choke line. After the expansion of the site's borders, we have the option of precluding movement along a vast area. See figure 2. Site Alpha, being only five tiles away from the soon-to-be-expanded borders of Abydos, GOLD, provides us an opportunity both to gain an essential luxury, and to link an expanded frontier between our home peninsula, the gems, and the strategically essential center of our continent. A prospective site (see figure 2, TAN), hereinafter site Beta, could bridge the gap and complete this expanded three-city frontier. The merits of this site will be further discussed below - but the advantages of site Alpha to maintaining our territorial integrity should be clear.

This site has explosive natural potential, if we exploit it wisely. A possible counter argument to settling at this site is that Alpha has no food resources, and excludes corn to its north and south. But the abundant jungles that surround it cover a vast grassland. It will be slightly food deficient before we discover how to implement a civil service, supporting only sixteen population, unimproved, after the jungles and forests are cleared. But after we master the bureaucracy necessary for irrigation projects, site Alpha has an unparalleled hammer capacity. Consider, for example, the case in which we irrigate all but two of the tiles that are arable at site Alpha. This will feed twenty and a half population adequately, allowing us a workshop or a lumbermill. At a conservative assumption of two hammers for the mill or shop, the city will be able to support a base productive capacity of thirty hammers. This site is an excellent candidate for West Point, the Heroic Epic, or the Ironworks

Site Beta:
Site Beta would make a fine commercial city, situated as it is along a river. It has a number of hills, and a high base food capacity. Together, the sites would allow us to roll our borders forward towards the center of the continent while giving us the capability to reserve, should we need it, a great deal of space behind those borders for future internal expansion.

Site Green Dot:
All of our fighting will be towards the south or West of Aybdos. It makes sense from a production and defense standpoint to start the "frontier "cities early and backfill. Both should be along the coast to provide a closer in seabase.sea coast has it's advantage - even more because of possibility to build lighthouse htan anything else, green dot to get the clams and get us a seaport for ships later on.

Could someone post the screenies after this, i can't seem to get them up.
 
I came up with "green dot" but I like alpha.
 
It's a bummer that I didn't have time to post this comment while the discussion was still going on. Really got buried at work and just came out of the cave...

Green dot should be moved one tile west. The overlap with Abydos would be a totally useless desert tile, and we'd gain 4 usable tiles more, when interlocking with other cities, than the current green placement. The pigs to the E of the green site are redundant (we already have pigs) and can still be picked up as a usable tile by pushing the other eastern sites, other than alpha, 1 to the west, along with green. Alpha should stay as depicted so it still gets the gems, given our biggest needs will be for luxury goods.

I say stick our necks out a bit and try for alpha. If someone else gets there first, just adjust the grid and back up to the next best spot.

Also a point of order, the 1st post is a little biased towards alpha. Technically the first post should be stated neutrally since some voters never bother to scroll down. This is not a hugely big deal, just keep it in mind next time. ;)
 
I just copy/pasted the arguements.

I tried to be neutral
 
I chose site Beta, though I would prefer it to be one tile SW of the indicated spot. We need to increase our research capabilities and this city would make a great science city. If we built it one SW as I have mentioned we would be able to increase our growth rate due to bringing the food resource within our city radius.
 
I chose Beta.
I think that Alpha before anyone else does anyway. It is too far for Mongols to settle there (and we might stop them anyway). And Germans already have gems and they have better places than the jungle to settle.
Also we'll need long road to get the gems to our older cities. I'm sure we can build another settler before we'll finish the road to site Alpha.
 
Vind2 said:
the screenies should've been posted when this went up.
I explained i couldn't get them up, my computer was screwy. Again, i'm sorry:goodjob:
 
I'm validated this poll, and the consensus is ALPHA
 
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