Leaderhead-Animations

Ok, I think the most people have read/found out that Leaderheads can have the Animation of another LH. Unfortunately not every combination works. So I want to post the results that I know:

Frederick (.nif, .dds, .kfm)
works with (.kf) of: Washington
doesnt work with: Mao, Alexander, Victoria

Asoka
works with: ?
doesnt work with: Alexander, Mao, Tokogawa, Peter

Huayna
works with: Julius
doesnt work with: Otto

Montezuma
works with: Julius
doesnt work with: Frederick

Alexander
works with: Julius
doesnt work with: Napoleon

Julius
works with: Alex (Pizzaboy or Gigolo), Napoleon (but the arms are bad)
doesnt work with:

Louis
works with: ?
doesnt work with: Mao, Victoria, Peter, Frederick or Alexander

Sid
doesnt work with: Mao, Asoka, Victoria, Otto
a lot of stuff apear when you give him new animations, I suppose he shuld be the base for animated avisors.

This is actually really helpful. Thanks!

I looked at a lot of combos, too, and boy were some of them horrific! Try FDR with Alexander's animations, or Huayna Capac with Tokugawa.

ETA:
Huayna Capac
Doesn't work with: FDR, Asoka, Tokugawa

FDR
Doesn't work with: Alexander (or anything, that I can tell)

Cyrus:
Doesn't work with Napoleon, and vise versa.

Chamaedrys,

I know you asked me for a list of these a while back but I never wrote them down originally and I haven't gotten around to rediscovering them yet. However, here are a few working combos that I remember (I don't necessarily remember all the combinations that do or don't work, sorry):

Asoka 3D LH
works with animations of: FDR

Cyrus 3D LH
works with animations of: Elizabeth, Asoka

Elizabeth 3D LH
works with animations of: Cyrus (with slight NIF editing to move her teeth farther back)

Gandhi 3D LH
works with animations of: Hatshepsut, maybe?

Genghis 3D LH
works with animations of: Washington, FDR (with an odd dimple that is not too noticable - see Brian Boru in my modpack)

Hatshepsut 3D LH
works with animations of: Gandhi
Doesn't work with animations of: pretty much everybody else (I Think)

Huayna 3D LH
works with animations of: Julius (as noted by Chamaedrys)
Doesn't work with animations of: pretty much everybody else

Isabella 3D LH
works with animations of: Elizabeth

Kublai Khan 3D LH
works with animations of: No one straight out of the box. All other animations will cause the 3D model to lie on it's side mostly below the image frame. This is also true of any other LH model if you try to use Kublai's animations on them. However, I have discovered that you can use other LH's animations on the Kublai model IF you first edit it in the NIF Viewer and change the XYZ Local Rotation numbers. If this is done, then the animations of Mao, FDR, & Qin Shi Huang will work on it. For an example of this, check out Jayavarman of Khmer in Civ Gold 2.0 when it is released soon.

Mansa Musa 3D LH
works with animations of: Asoka, Peter

Mao 3D LH
works with animations of: Asoka

Montezuma 3D LH
works with animations of: Saladin, Julius

Peter 3D LH
works with animations of: Tokugawa

Qin Shi Huang 3D LH
works with animations of: Mansa Musa

Saladin 3D LH
works with animations of: Montezuma

Tokugawa 3D LH
works with animations of: Peter

Victoria 3D LH
works with animations of: FDR

Washington 3D LH
works with animations of: Frederick

One last thing of note: Usually if you find a combination that works, it will work in reverse. Example: the Cyrus LH will work with Elizabeth's animations and the Elizabeth LH will work with Cyrus's animations. [EDIT] I have since found that this is not necessarily true.

Hope this helps. I will update this post as I remember them.

Chamaedrys said:

Sid
doesnt work with: Mao, Asoka, Victoria, Otto
a lot of stuff apear when you give him new animations, I suppose he shuld be the base for animated avisors.

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Sid will work as a normal LH if the extra tutorial animations are removed in the NIF Viewer. I did that once and the LH appeared to function normally (without any extra props/items attached to it) however he has such a distinct look that I didn't know who to make him into.

At one time, I had joked that he looked an awful lot like Jimmy Buffet but I don't think the Civfanatics community (or anyone else) is ready for a Parrothead nation civ with a Groupie UU

hmm interesting
i found one thing more

the games crash a fter importing leaderhead made in 3ds max to the game

Thanks for your contributions, guys!

My latest discovery: Tokugawa works with Huayna's animations - but unfortunately the eye lids are transparent . Removing the eye lids or adding glasses could maybe solve the problem, but I did not try it out.

Anyone come across an animation that works with Napoleon?

Chamaedrys said:

Thanks for your contributions, guys!

My latest discovery: Tokugawa works with Huayna's animations - but unfortunately the eye lids are transparent . Removing the eye lids or adding glasses could maybe solve the problem, but I did not try it out.

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Mabey someone could reskin the eylids that may solve the problem

say what is it you use to do stuff like that to the leaderheads???

@Slavic Sioux: We take all the .nif, all .dds and the kfm file of one Leader and the kf files of another Leader. The kf determints the moves of a Leader. Now we gave the kf's the names of the kf's of our first Leader. Some cominations are working, some don't and some look funny

some working combinations:

Louis works with Napoleon (showy) and Saladin (wise) animations

any ideas for a showy or a wise renaissance Leader??

Stalin's animations don't work with FDR. FDR's head gets deformed if you try. Stalin's animations do work with Gandhi, though.

Could someone write up a tutorial on how to attach different animations? It would be GREATLY appreciated.
Edit, just found out LOL. So simple.
Tips:
DO NOT ATTACH BISMARCK'S ANIMATIONS TO NAPOLEON. You will not be able to sleep tonight.
DO NOT ATTACH STALIN'S ANIMATIONS TO CHURCHILL. OR DE GAULLES. You will not sleep for a week.

dutchking said:

Could someone write up a tutorial on how to attach different animations? It would be GREATLY appreciated.
Edit, just found out LOL. So simple.
Tips:
DO NOT ATTACH BISMARCK'S ANIMATIONS TO NAPOLEON. You will not be able to sleep tonight.
DO NOT ATTACH STALIN'S ANIMATIONS TO CHURCHILL. OR DE GAULLES. You will not sleep for a week.

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How did you find out dutchking?

Ekmek said:

How did you find out dutchking?

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A friend of mine told me...

can you share the secret

Sure, it's simple. Let's say you want to add Bismarck's animations to napoleon (NOT RECOMMENDED ) you would simply copy Bismarck's animations into Napoleon's LH folder, and rename "bimarck" to "napoleon" and delete the existing animations of napoleon.

You know, I was just thinking of this.
I looked a little into leaderheads, and I think you could probably get any LH to work with any other's animations. How? The reason they do not work with others atm (Mainly) is that the main bone is called different. It is normally named after the leaderhead. The rest of the bones (eye, arm etc) are the same. So if you just rename the main bone to the one that the "new" animations work with it should work. Why some of the ones do work now is because they have it named as the other leaders main bone (I think Catherine's main bone is the same as Isabella's for example.)
No guarantees it will look right though.

Hmm...I'll try that. I'm making a Napoleon LH with Stalin animations (napoleon's move side-to-side too much) and it doesn't look half bad, but I'd like the clavicals to be higher than the shoulders.

dutchking said:

Sure, it's simple. Let's say you want to add Bismarck's animations to napoleon (NOT RECOMMENDED ) you would simply copy Bismarck's animations into Napoleon's LH folder, and rename "bimarck" to "napoleon" and delete the existing animations of napoleon.

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how do you know which files are which?

Ekmek said:

how do you know which files are which?

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Hmm? You just take the animations you want for a LH. Example
Bismarck LH folder:
greeting
affirmative
negative
pleased
cautious
friendly
annoyed
furious
All of those will be Bismarcks animations.
In Napoleons you have the same thing, except they're named with Napoleon before it. So all you have to do is delete Napoleon's existin animation files, then move bismarcks into hte folder and rename "bismarck" to "napoleon".