Christianity and Islam

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why is it there a rivalry between islam and christianity. there extremely similar i mean look at the specs

both to some extent have jeueslem as a holy city

both have holy prophets, muhhamed, jesus

both began in the middle east

jesus is a prophet for both of them

both are huge religions cristianity 2bil islam 1.5 bil

are on a rush to convert everyone

no offense meant to either religion i am cristian
 
I have personally never understood why we cannot live in peace. The way I personally see it is like this...

We are all three (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) worshippers of the God of Abraham. Surely there is more to unite us than to divide us. We do not have to accept the particular beliefs of the others that contradict our own, but we can still respect the others' rights to hold those beliefs.
 
Being large, expansionist, and from the same region is exactly why they are at odds. It is the similarities that caused all the tension. Even Christians can't get along with other Christians. Muslims cannot get along with other Muslims, either.
 
Because they all believe the other is wrong. And we're not talking about being wrong about some small thing. We're talking about beliefs that define who is good and evil.
 
Religion is unique in one thing. Because religion is based upon faith, you cannot debate point to point. It is always "I am right and you are wrong."

Muslim and Christian, because of the closeness of the area, have more conflicts between each other because they originated from the same area, because they share holy cities, and because of ancient conflicts between Christian and Muslim countries.

That's the first time I've ever seen beliefs of a religion referred to as specs. ;)

I am a Christian, and the way I see it, I'm not gonna be able to convert anyone, and if the only thing I will wind up doing to anyone is driving them away, then why would I? If you believe what you believe, so long as you respect my beliefs, I will respect your beliefs, or non-beliefs in the case of an atheist. I respect the fact that you don't want me to try to convert you, and I see that as a Christian as well as a human, it's my responsibility to respect you and what you believe. I may not agree with you, but I respect you.
 
This mostly occurred due to a variety of events: the Reconquista, obviously the Crusades, the Ottoman expansion, and later, the Western carving up of the Middle East. It's mostly political hatred that got translated into the cultural aspects of those societies.
 
VRWCAgent said:
We are all three (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) worshippers of the God of Abraham. Surely there is more to unite us than to divide us. We do not have to accept the particular beliefs of the others that contradict our own, but we can still respect the others' rights to hold those beliefs.
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There is plenty to unite Christians and Jews. Christians want to see Judaism come to its complete fulfilness, and for Israel to inherit the promises of God.

Islam says it has overturned both Christianity and Judaism.
 
There is no rivalry between them. The rivalry is, incidentally, between christians and muslims.
 
I think that Jesus is not a prophet for Christians. And I don't think that there's any specific rivalry between christians and muslims. It's just an optical illusion.
 
Quasar1011 said:
There is plenty to unite Christians and Jews. Christians want to see Judaism come to its complete fulfilness, and for Israel to inherit the promises of God.

Islam says it has overturned both Christianity and Judaism.
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If you look it at the issue of "overturning", then Christianity clearly says that it has overturned Judaism.
 
It isn't a fight between Christianity and Islam. It is a fight between liberalism and Islam, it just means that Christians are mixed up with liberalism by the Muslims because the concept is most popular in the west. Fundamental Muslims also believed that the laws are inseperable from religion.
 
Quasar1011 said:
There is plenty to unite Christians and Jews. Christians want to see Judaism come to its complete fulfilness, and for Israel to inherit the promises of God.
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What the heck does that mean? What happens when Judaism comes to complete fullness?
 
Oh, to answer the OP: there's a rivarly because they both claim the other serves a mutated (and therefore false) version of God; which is warned against in both holy texts.

But the reason they kill each other is mostly because "killing for gold and women" is not as respected as it used to be.
 
El_Machinae said:
What the heck does that mean? What happens when Judaism comes to complete fullness?
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Bright day
Second Coming of Christ.
I once heard this is reason evangelicals support Israel:rolleyes:.
 
There isn't a fight between Chirstians & Muslims; its Nationalistic. Actually to tell the truth if I ever left my native religion it would probably be to Islam.
 
Gladi said:
Bright day
Second Coming of Christ.
I once heard this is reason evangelicals support Israel:rolleyes:.
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I guess I wonder what they think happens when the Second Coming occurs, then? Because I can't think they'd want it to occur - that seems strange to me. Maybe they think of it differently than what I was taught.
 
s.c.dude said:
both have holy prophets, muhhamed, jesus

both began in the middle east

jesus is a prophet for both of them
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Christians believe Jesus is God not a prophet. Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet not God.

I don't think this is the reason for the disputes however. That goes more to other aspects of the religions as well as early and medieval European and Middle Eastern history IMO.
 
if christians and muslims cannot like their own kind, i.e. protestants fully accepting catholics, and shias fully accpeting sunnis, then how can we ever unite?
 
s.c.dude said:
why is it there a rivalry between islam and christianity. there extremely similar i mean look at the specs

both to some extent have jeueslem as a holy city

both have holy prophets, muhhamed, jesus

both began in the middle east

jesus is a prophet for both of them

both are huge religions cristianity 2bil islam 1.5 bil

are on a rush to convert everyone

no offense meant to either religion i am cristian
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Well look at how hard Catholics and Protestants fought each other. And still are in some parts of the world.

Also my opinion is that if you exclude the 10-15% of fanatics in both Islam and Christianity, everybody else is actually ready to live together.
 
chrisrossi said:
if christians and muslims cannot like their own kind, i.e. protestants fully accepting catholics, and shias fully accpeting sunnis, then how can we ever unite?
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I don't see it so much as an issue with uniting. I have no desire to unite or merge with the Islamic faith. But being able to live in peace with differences, I don't see why that isn't doable.
 
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