What should we do THIS time?

What should the US do in the Iran SNAFU?

  • The US should take things into it's own hands right now

    Votes: 15 26.8%

  • The US should work with the UN until the UN fails to be able to deal with Iran

    Votes: 15 26.8%

  • The US should keep working with the UN and whatever it decides, it's time we gave them a chance

    Votes: 26 46.4%
  • Total voters
    56
Cheezy the Wiz

Cheezy the Wiz

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Okay, now that Ahmadinejad has defied the UN deadline, what should we do?

How would it be taken by the rest of the world if the United States, in light of a UN failure to deal with Iran, were to take things into our own hands and attack Iran? Surely, this is different than taking Iraq into our own hands, as the whole world is blatantly aware of Iran's intentions, capability, and the fact that he wants or may have these things is indisputable.
So, would that be "acceptable" for the US to to disarm Ahmadinejad?

What if it was only an air campaign?

What if it became a ground operation, that wound up deposing the Fundamentalist regime, arguably more actively dangerous to the West than Iraq was?

I'm curious to hear, not only about your personal opinions about this as both American citizens and people abroad, but also how you think different people would react.
 
Doing nothing might be good (in some ways). The moment Ahmadinejad launches a nuke, Iran will be a radioactive smear on the surface of the Earth.
Then again, I'm open to other suggestions...
 
My personal opinion is that we ought to work with the UN for now, until it proves to be doing nothing productive in the way of halting Iran's nuclear ambitions. At that time, and only that time, we should wage an extensive air war (no troops!) against Iran, taking out any capability to do anything nuclear, and while we're at it, chemical, biological ( I don't know if he has these, but if he does, might as well get rid of them now), but not pound Iran's army into the ground; they are needed as a stabilizing force in the region, now that the world's fourth largest army is gone (that would be Iraq).
If we wait for Iran to act, Israel or some other ally of ours is going to suffer, and then how would you feel, knowing you could have done something about it, saved millions, but you didn't?
 
The UN is useless, America should use the threat that we are perfectly willing to destroy you if you defy us. Use our military strength to intimidate Iran; if they defy us, then Iran will be history.

We should not respect the Iranian government in the least, they should at least fear us. But no person, no matter how mad (Even Ahmadinejad) would deny the influence of American intimidation.
 
Tycoon101 said:
The UN is useless, America should use the threat that we are perfectly willing to destroy you if you defy us. Use our military strength to intimidate Iran; if they defy us, then Iran will be history.

We should not respect the Iranian government in the least, they should at least fear us. But no person, no matter how mad (Even Ahmadinejad) would deny the influence of American intimidation.
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:lol: OK fun boy, even Bush isn't that pointed, rar, grrr I am lion here me roar. And you wonder why we should not respect you in the same way, you sound like an animal, not a reasoned human being. flex your muscles, but do me a favour, flex the muscle that is between your ears and not the one that is between your legs. Human beings make so much more sense when they excercise cognative ability over brute arrogance. You are not a gorrilla you are a human being, might want to act like one.

Me I'm a human being and frankly we respond to arrogance with violence, and so do the people your trying to chastise. The world isn't impressed by flexing, but by thought and neither is your girlfriend.
 
If Iran gains nuclear weapons, the world will not be all that much different. If they continue to go down that route, economic sanctions would be appropriate, not because that will change Iran's mind (it won't) but because it will deter other countries from copycatting.

Meanwhile, there is a slight chance that diplomacy could actually work. But if not, no biggie.
 
Well we DO have another FIVE YEARS.
Some covert-ops should set this back TEN YEARS.

Too much is at stake already in Iraq and Afganistain.
Iran is playing an underhanded game so why shouldnt the US. (clock and dagger, and all that)
 
Cheezy, there are more options then what you've provided. At least I believe that no one should be hampering Iran's nuclear ambitions. Any action the United States takes that is aggressive will in turn only make its own situation worse.
 
Captain Planet said:
Cheezy, there are more options then what you've provided. At least I believe that no one should be hampering Iran's nuclear ambitions. Any action the United States takes that is aggressive will in turn only make its own situation worse.
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There's a five minute time limit on posting polls, and that's all I could think of in that time. Besides, it covers the big ones. What would you do, if you were the Big POTUS?
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
It's funny when you spam my thread and I report you for it.


This is a serious topic people, don't litter my potentially productive thread.
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It takes a tough guy to do that Cheezy. :cry: But that doesn't make this thread any less redundant and boring.
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
There's a five minute time limit on posting polls, and that's all I could think of in that time. Besides, it covers the big ones. What would you do, if you were the Big POTUS?
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If I was the leader of the Free World I'd probably take a more passive approach as opposed to what we will see within the coming months. I am not sure if the United States will take direct military action, but it's almost a given that Israel will respond against Iran's nuclear facilities.

One way or another, Iran is going to have planes flying over it with big payloads eventually. The question is, how is this war going to play out?
 
I'll say what I'd do here. Since I look like a jack@$$ in the other thread.

If I was POTUS, I'd be worried. But, military action isn't exactly the answer to the problem, as that might prompt Iran to use the nuke. I'd still half-use the UN, but right now I think you're going to have some kind of "6 nation talks" with Iran, US, Russia, China, and 2 others, probably France and Britain.

If there is a war, it will be a bloody, but actually deserved war, unlike some other ones in our past in the region.
 
Ayatollah So said:
If Iran gains nuclear weapons, the world will not be all that much different. If they continue to go down that route, economic sanctions would be appropriate, not because that will change Iran's mind (it won't) but because it will deter other countries from copycatting.

Meanwhile, there is a slight chance that diplomacy could actually work. But if not, no biggie.
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May I point you in the direction of NK. It was sanctioned and that didn't stop Iran.
Afganistan and Iraq getting thier butts handed to them did make Libya think twice and come to the conclusion that US kickin' your but was not a good thing. Iran is playing the rope-a-dope with the UN and will continue to lead it on untill its to late and they have nukes. Then do you think the crazy bastards then run that place are going to sit there and do nothing or are they more likely to use this leverage along with its mass terrorist networks to control the entier mid-east like it does Syria and Lebanon?
 
skadistic said:
May I point you in the direction of NK. It was sanctioned and that didn't stop Iran.
Afganistan and Iraq getting thier butts handed to them did make Libya think twice and come to the conclusion that US kickin' your but was not a good thing. Iran is playing the rope-a-dope with the UN and will continue to lead it on untill its to late and they have nukes. Then do you think the crazy bastards then run that place are going to sit there and do nothing or are they more likely to use this leverage along with its mass terrorist networks to control the entier mid-east like it does Syria and Lebanon?
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Skadistic, I need you on record clarifying that you believe invading Iraq and Afghanistan deterred Libya and will continue to deter other countries. :lol:
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
Okay, now that Ahmadinejad has defied the UN deadline, what should we do?

How would it be taken by the rest of the world if the United States, in light of a UN failure to deal with Iran, were to take things into our own hands and attack Iran? Surely, this is different than taking Iraq into our own hands, as the whole world is blatantly aware of Iran's intentions, capability, and the fact that he wants or may have these things is indisputable.
So, would that be "acceptable" for the US to to disarm Ahmadinejad?

What if it was only an air campaign?

What if it became a ground operation, that wound up deposing the Fundamentalist regime, arguably more actively dangerous to the West than Iraq was?

I'm curious to hear, not only about your personal opinions about this as both American citizens and people abroad, but also how you think different people would react.
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Not much the US could do on its own, unfortunately. Attacking Iran in any way, shape, or form will simply trigger a war, which we'd be wholly incapable of waging. Such a war would involve the Iran-Iraq border region as theater. Given the US's tenuous occupation of anarchic Iraq, I suspect it will go in Iran's favor.
 
The UN has already failed to deal with Iran. The time for the US to abandon the process may not have arrived just yet, but it is very soon approaching. We can wait to see what the UNSC does now, but if they fail to act and act soon, it is time to go ahead with a full court press.
 
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