Why O'Reilly is a bad journalist

It is my contention that O'Reilly is a bad journalist. He's simply not a journalist at all. He just states a bunch of opinions loaded with inaccuracies. He's an editorialist, basically, and a bad one at that.

My purpose here is to not bash him but prove to his fans here on this forum that he's simply a bad journalist.

If you want to do the communist thing and say, "at least he's not as bad as X!", then just spare us all. Make another thread talking about X. (I referred to communists because their ONLY defense of communists throughout history is by pointing out how bad such and such person was in comparison.)

Now, if you're going to say that some source of information is biased, therefore, you don't put any weight into it and won't read/watch it, then please just stick your head into a toilet and don't withdraw it.

Lying about Biden and stealing his ideas.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/06/09/3073/

Criticisms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_O'Reilly_controversies

There is another interesting corrollary to this whole O'Reilly thread. That is: how much evidence do you need against something you believe for you to disbelieve it? In other words, a lot of people on this forum love O'Reilly. O'Reilly is a lying scumbag. So how much evidence do you need of him lying to stop loving him? What bothers me is that people here KNOW that O'Reilly is a liar yet still love him.

This opening post is only the beginning. There is a vast amount of evidence that he's a liar. I don't have time to post it all. Please add to this thread.

Extreme dishonesty, Michael Moore style. The end is what I'm talking about, the rest of it is just what one person said vs. another.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWNEkE1VYz8

Misrepresentation of Jeremy Glick. Unfortunately, this is 49 minutes. I watched this once. In it is an interview of Jeremy Glick. Jeremy Glick states that what O'Reilly's show made him say is different from what Glick actually said. Editing and all that.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8775995341064689390&q=outfoxed

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Do people realise that he has a propaganda agenda?
Do people realise that this makes him dangerous, because given enough exposure, you don't know which statements are true and which are lies?

Every falsehood of his that you believe swings your view of the world to a false one.

Phlegmak said:

It is my contention that O'Reilly is a bad journalist. He's simply not a journalist at all.

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I hate to nitpick, but either the man is a journalist or not. He can't be a bad journalist at the same time as not being a journalist at all.
Very hard to slam someone for being something you said he wasn't in the same breath.

Bill Oreilly is an entertainer, not a journalist.

It astounds me that people can like him simply because they share his ideas. I share alot of ideological ground with O'Reilly, but that doesn't make me ignore the fact that he lies through his teeth.

Scuffer said:

I hate to nitpick, but either the man is a journalist or not. He can't be a bad journalist at the same time as not being a journalist at all.
Very hard to slam someone for being something you said he wasn't in the same breath.

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Then he's not a journalist. I thought "bad journalist" was good enough to mean "not a journalist".

ParkCungHee said:

It astounds me that people can like him simply because they share his ideas. I share alot of ideological ground with O'Reilly, but that doesn't make me ignore the fact that he lies through his teeth.

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I'm glad you said that. I've heard him say two things which I really like. They are: "Americans don't want to hear how bad their country is" and "Could the looters in New Orleans [after Katrina] have simply stayed behind to take advantage of a situation they knew would be bad?" Those two things aren't going to prevent me from knowing he's a lying rat. Same with Michael Moore. I despise him, yet he's said a small number of things I liked.

Phlegmak said:

Then he's not a journalist. I thought "bad journalist" was good enough to mean "not a journalist".

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No, "bad journalist" means he is a journalist, but not a very good one.

I am not a "bad brain surgeon", I'm "not a brain surgeon"

Can't you leftists get a straight opinion? First he's a journalist, but then he's not really a journalist, he's a government agent hired to spread nefarious propaganda to help Bush/Republicans win elections, but wait - he's just an entertainer!

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Let's not debate too much about definition of a journalist. OTOH everybody would agree he is not the definition of journalism btw.
He is a showman at best, a reality tv actor at the least.
He's here to make good audience/profit.
He's to journalism the kind of extrapolations you find in decadent talk shows or wresting.

I think we can all agree that whatever he's trying to do, he's not very good at it.

garric said:

Can't you leftists get a straight opinion? First he's a journalist, but then he's not really a journalist, he's a government agent hired to spread nefarious propaganda to help Bush/Republicans win elections, but wait - he's just an entertainer!

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Garric: you paint too broadly with your brush. You expect everyone who defies your opinion to have the same opinion.

[tongue in cheek]Just like a Coulterite. Your homogenous opinion leads you to misunderstand reality.

Bozo Erectus said:

Bill Oreilly is an entertainer, not a journalist.

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Speaking of which, theres now Bill O'Reilly Bingo! Simply print out the following sheet and mark a square each time he does or says anything listed. You win when you get 5 in a row (horizontal, vertical or diagonal):

I wouldn't know; I haven't watched O'Reilly in years.

Pontiuth Pilate said:

I think we can all agree that whatever he's trying to do, he's not very good at it.

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If that were the case, he wouldnt be the #1 guy in the ratings race now would he?

Apparently, he is very, very good at what he does, despite your (and others) opinion of him.

garric said:

Can't you leftists get a straight opinion? First he's a journalist, but then he's not really a journalist, he's a government agent hired to spread nefarious propaganda to help Bush/Republicans win elections, but wait - he's just an entertainer!

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I privately predicted this would happen. My mistake of calling him a journalist was going to be focused upon rather than the topic at hand. And here it is.

MobBoss said:

If that were the case, he wouldnt be the #1 guy in the ratings race now would he?

Apparently, he is very, very good at what he does, despite your (and others) opinion of him.

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People are very good at swallowing lies then.

Is no one going to address the conflict inherent in liking a guy who lies so much?

Phlegmak said:

I privately predicted this would happen. My mistake of calling him a journalist was going to be focused upon rather than the topic at hand. And here it is.

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So you predicted people would notice your mistake? Imagine that.

MobBoss said:

Apparently, he is very, very good at what he does, despite your (and others) opinion of him.

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Yes, he is very good at being an Intellectual Whore, willing to give up all hope of intellectual honesty in favor of making money.

Come on MobBoss, we agree he's a good show man, don't you think he lacks one of the journalists most important values : impartiality ?

The blind hatred towards O'Reilly disgusts me. You are all worse then he is.