Craziest starting position ever
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KMadCandy
giggling permanoob
hahaha! do it, and get all the juicy city spots before you open borders! hmmz, i suppose you have no unit upkeep costs if you have no city, so he wouldn't go broke?
Cabledawg
King
Post a save and Id like to play it out. Id like to see what happens.
Actually I realise this wouldn't work very well, since if I block him from having a capital, then when my border pops his units will get out. If I let him settle then being Saladin he will get a religion and try to flip me!
Anyway here's the starting save.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106707/P_BC-4000strangest.CivWarlordsSave
Anyway here's the starting save.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106707/P_BC-4000strangest.CivWarlordsSave
thefais
Chieftain
Well, that halts his development for 5 (normal) 8 (epic) or 10? (marathon) turns.
morchuflex
Emperor
Which level is this? Emperor?
uncarved block
Prince
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Um, why wouldn't he just take those Archers and end your game in under ten moves? I know the AI doesn't go in for early war, but the limit can't be that hard coded, right? Otherwise, Saladin will be able to get a free teleport when your borders expand, though where to exactly would be interesting to find out.
Yes, you can culture flip an enemy capital.
And in this case, you may be well suited for it. Creative gives +2
that he'll never be able to get, and cheap libraries will give you a quick jump to an addition +2. That should give you a pretty decent per turn advantage.On the other hand, Saladin's Madras will counter your Creative trait (his library gives +4
). And if he founds an early religion, that will be an additional +5. So it could backfire and you may be the one who's capital gets owned.I notice Stonehenge gives mad early culture, maybe I should settle in place, delay Saladin for a few turns so that hopefully other civs can get the religions and then chop stonehenge. However it's probably earsier just to find horse and rush him with war chariots.
Yes, you can culture flip an enemy capital.
And in this case, you may be well suited for it. Creative gives +2
On the other hand, Saladin's Madras will counter your Creative trait (his library gives +4
flamingzaroc121
Emperor
is that diety or something!!?!?!? 3 archers, 2 workers 2 scouts and a settler
obsolete
Deity
Well maybe offtopic, but I had a weird begining myself today. Build a new city close to my Rome capital (to get some iron).
A barbarian somehow took over the city. Then I get a notice stating Rome was lost to a barbarian? This city was not my capital, so how the hell did THAT happen? The I find out my capital name was changed to Romeb and the other city (owned by barbs now) was called Rome. Hmmm. I double checked my city, and while my real capital Romeb showed a palace inside, the production, etc just didn't seem to add up right.
Who else had this wierd thing happen?
A barbarian somehow took over the city. Then I get a notice stating Rome was lost to a barbarian? This city was not my capital, so how the hell did THAT happen? The I find out my capital name was changed to Romeb and the other city (owned by barbs now) was called Rome. Hmmm. I double checked my city, and while my real capital Romeb showed a palace inside, the production, etc just didn't seem to add up right.
Who else had this wierd thing happen?
sylvanllewelyn
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Try to shoot for polytheism, convert him, then backstab him. If polytheism fails, move to montheism, convert him, then backstab him. The game is scripted so that capitals are often the best cities, so you'll enjoy two capitals with little maintenance cost.
A little hint though: he's the AI, so Saladin won't attack if you're religious kin for a thousand years. Just don't backstab with warriors. 20 warriors at 2 strength each will lose to his archer at 3*(100%+50%+25%+20%)=5.85 strength, and that's before first strikes, drill and barracks.
A little hint though: he's the AI, so Saladin won't attack if you're religious kin for a thousand years. Just don't backstab with warriors. 20 warriors at 2 strength each will lose to his archer at 3*(100%+50%+25%+20%)=5.85 strength, and that's before first strikes, drill and barracks.
