PREVIEW THREAD: LuckNES2: The Fatal Balance

Luckymoose · Jan 5, 2007

LuckNES2: The Fatal Balance

Well as you may already know. I am Luckymoose. My first mod attempt didn't really fail I just lost interest. For all those eagerly anticipating the continuation of it. I am deeply sorry. Though I don't think anyone really cared. But this time its different. Over the last couple of months I have thought about the types of NESes I enjoy then most. And realized the industrial age is my favorite. Some of you people might say, he can't do it. Well you might be right. I won't lie. But give me a chance.

Thanks to Chip, who has given me the right to retry his second NES attempt. And whom also gave me the stats as to save me the trouble. And whom gets the first reservation cause of this. Don't worry European hungry players. Thanks again Chip I shall enjoy modding this NES even more so than when I played in it.

First of all I will include the alt history by das for which this is based on in the next post. Then I will have to read it so to better acquaint myself with the scenario. :lol:

I will post a full list of nations and allow you to make reservations. As this NES will not open for a good week or more. As to attract enough players. And for me to fix up all the things in stats and all that good fun absolutely not time consuming thing that mods love to do.

Well without further hesitation here is the map for LuckNES2: The Fatal Balance

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Luckymoose · Jan 5, 2007

Current Rule Set which is being modified from the original NESes rule set.

The Players: The players are the heart and soul of the NES. As many of you may join as you want. You can take a country or a rebellion, or you can PM me to ask about something else.

The Stories: The stories are an integral part of NESing and this NES in particular. While you don't *have* to write stories, I do give out bonuses for stories, so its recommended you do.

The Orders: Please send orders for every update you can. I won't punish you for not sending, but it will be assumed your country like wasted its budget on potato chips. If your congress disapproves, you'll probably find out in the update. Please organize them nicely, maybe list form. Try to keep them shortish... and no more than 2 PMs. Your actions will have side effects, that’s the universe. Oh, and I like maps.

The NPC's: These are the nations I simulate. You never know if they will roll over or not, so don't take them lightly. They will also respond to your diplo, so keep channels open. Natives and Barbarians are also NPC'ed.

The Updates: The general thing here. Laid out in some order from west to east most likely. Will have a spotlight and random events. You know the drill.

The Map - Not exactly the newest version but whatever. Play the game.

The Countries: Pick and NPC or start a rebellion, and please don't play too uncharacteristically, but if you justify it somehow, I’m cool with it. And PLEASE don't spam my thread with "That is SOO unrealistic". I will penalize your nation if you do that.

NATION NAME
Capital:
Ruler:
Government:
Tech. Era:
Army (Training):
Navy (Training):
Economy:
Size (points required):
Leadership (Military/Civilian): /
Infrastructure:
National Intelligence:
Living Standards:
Culture:
Confidence:
Projects:
Nation Background:

Government

Government - is your form of government. You are free to change your government, and explain it how ever do you want, but that can piss off followers of the previous governments, and might lead to nation-wide riots, or even a civil war. Also, keep it historical. That is, you could invent your own government, but it must make sense for YOUR nation of THAT time. You could consult me about that.

Technology Era

Most Nations shall start in the Early Industrial Age. You can up your tech Era by having a good National Intelligence, along with research.

Late Enlightened Age: approximate analogy in our world is 1760-1790 Europe.
Early Industrial Age: approximate analogy - 1790-1840.
Middle Industrial Age: approximate analogy - 1840-1880.
Late Industrial Age: approximate analogy - 1880-1916.

Military

That will, as of now, consist of army and navy (later to be joined by air force). These will be number-based as it gives more versatility. These will be represented in divisions and squadrons .

What will you have in it? Anything that you can have in it, according to your tech era; if you aren't sure about something, just ask me for clarification. If you just invented some sort of a weapon, you will have to invest some money to re-equip your army/navy with it; the training will also probably drop, due to the unfamiliarity of the weapons. Each “stat-growth” will increase any part of military by 5 (however, there could be exceptions). But know that if you have too large an army, your economy will probably suffer, as will your confidence; of course, both could be, sometimes, restored by successful military campaigns, or perhaps campaigns of propaganda back at home. If you grow your military too fast, your training, and later your military leadership, will suffer.

UUs - one per nation, but can be changed at any point (though the newly-“demoted” UU units will not be happy). They will be separated from other units in the stats. They are grown as normal units. Remember to keep them REALISTIC. If the amount of UUs exceeds the amount of regular units, they will begin to drop in quality, morale and also in loyalty as their commanders, often being rather arrogant and ambitious, will probably try to use their power base in one way or another.

Irregulars - local militias and simple civilian population that, for whatever reasons, took up arms - most often in rebellion or to defend against an invader, though there are exceptions - they aren't good for much that isn't guerrilla warfare, though they can also be a neat diversion, and professional cannon fodder. They aren't too reliable, and often are rather hard for you to control; then again, they are also best left uncontrolled - they fight even worse when away from home, and, on the other hand, if at home they'll probably know what to do better, with their knowledge of the situation and the terrain.

Training - it is done in levels. There are separate training stats for army, navy and fleet, and it is grown with eco. points. UU is assumed to be one level higher then the average training level for its branch. If your army grows too quickly, there will be a chance of training level lowering.

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Conscription will give you a certain amount of conscript divisions that you could specify if you want; of course, conscription, especially in democratic countries, tends to be quite unpopular, especially the large-scale variety...

Logistical Support and Supplies is a must for any invasion. Make sure to set aside some money for that. Armies need food and supplies, and they can't venture very far without it.

Economy

Economy levels still play the vital role. However, the amount of economy points that you have differs from level to level (if you get a negative amount of them, I will decrease a random stat per negative point); it is also influenced by random events and by economic centers (cities that are either trade centers, industrial centers or capitals of agriculturally-rich provinces); each of the latter provides one eco. point per turn to whoever holds it at the time (i.e. if it is on occupied territory, the occupier receives the eco. point). To grow economy (i.e. to advance from one level to another), you have to a) not spend your eco. points, apart from those received from eco. centers, on anything else that turn and b) to point out what exactly are you going to do to grow it (note that eco. growth might not always be successful, depending on what you do and how things fold out). I want a good reason, not a bad one.

Eco. points could (and should) be spent on growing military, miscellaneous stats (see below), logistical support for the military and on continuing projects.

Eco. levels still could be "sacrificed", i.e. converted into 6 eco. points each. Only two eco. levels could be sacrificed per turn.

Creation of economic centers also requires the investment of at least one eco. point into some specific development programs, most of the times anyway.

Depression (-2)-Bankrupt (-1)-Recession (-1)-Very Poor (0)-Poor (0)-Not Bad (+1)-Normal (+1)-Good Enough (+2)-Growing (+2)-Rich (+3)-Very Rich (+3)-Richer (+4)-Richest (+4)-Economic Powerhouse (+5)-Monopoly (+6) ( I will not allow higher than +6 due to the fact it can get ridiculous. Make EC’s if you must.)

Size

As proposed by Disenfranchised, though somewhat altered by Das. The larger your country is, the more money you will have to spend to grow any particular stat. You could invest money into stat growth over time if your country is large enough; in that case, the stat will still increase, but only in some, probably central, parts of the country.

Small (1)-Medium (2)-Above Medium (3)-Large (4)-Huge (5)-Gargantuan (6)-Half the World (7)

Note that training and military leadership do NOT depend on the above country size. They depend on army size. You need one eco. point per a full 20 divisions to grow army training; 1 per 20 squadrons for navy training; 1 per 20 divisions OR 20 squadrons (so the total amount of eco. points needed is determined by the sum of both the divisions and the squadrons) for military leadership.

Miscellaneous Stats

Those four/five stats below are all grown with eco. points, but, like with growing economy itself, you are supposed to point out what exactly you are doing.

Leadership

Whether military or civilian, leadership is an important factor. Competent military leaders will successfully carry out plans or will even attain some successes on their own without orders; competent bureaucrats will greatly help all government programs and assist the development of the land. But incompetent generals will even with the best plan stagger and blunder, while incompetent civilian administrators will embezzle funds and otherwise will be corrupt. So, this is quite crucial, and cadre preparation thus should be an important priority. Note that sometimes it is best to give specifics when growing this stat (meaning, how EXACTLY are you training your new leaders - what military doctrines should be emphasized, for instance, what stance should your bureaucrats take on the various rebels, et cetera). When you expand your army radically, your military leadership will suffer; when you expand your territory, the civilian one will.

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Infrastructure

Roads, bridges, boats - all things used for transportation of goods and men - are listed under infrastructure. The higher is your infrastructure, the easier it is to move your (or enemy) troops across your territory; also, infrastructure could sometimes slightly grow economic benefits from trade centers, and it is a must for maintenance of a high culture level in large empires, as well as actually maintaining your grip on faraway provinces. Infrastructure is a key to economic growth. If you have a horrible Infrastructure, your economy could fall.

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National Intelligence

National Intelligence is much like Education, but Education is a misnomer. This is a representation of how smart the people and scientists of your naityon are. The higher intelligence means better leadership, better inventions, easier to get to next era

Once someone reaches Enlightenment education, he becomes much more likely to reach the next age as soon as it becomes possible at all. When he does, he loses two education levels.

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Living Standards

This is pretty simple. The higher your living standards are, the happier your population is; the lower, the tougher it is, because of the tougher life. Living standards drop easily, due to economic weakness and war; they are raised as any other economic stats are raised, but the more they are raised the more greedy your people get for more. To create a classic revolutionary situation, raise the living standards somewhat and then neglect them and let them drop.

None-Slums-Very Low-Low-Barely Tolerable-Tolerable-Normal-Higher-Very High-Splendid

Culture

NOTE: NOT GROWN BY ECONOMY DIRECTLY.

This is how culturally strong, patriotic and unified your nation is. A nation with strong patriotism is less likely to fall into a civil war, and it’s people would resist most invaders and otherwise help their government. This also influences army morale. A nation with weak patriotism is unlikely to be as resistant to outside threats, there will often be rebellions and defections.

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Confidence

NOTE: NOT GROWN BY ECONOMY DIRECTLY.

People can be fiercely unified and patriotic, but they will not necessarily like their ruler - in fact, a strongly
cultured nation with little confidence in its leaders can, in its cultural unity, lynch the rulers and fire their remains from cannons. Into the huge pot filled with boiled sharks. Not that the rulers will care by then...

Lynching-Hateful-Resentful-Barely Tolerating-Tolerating-Respecting-Admiring-Loving-Nation Personified

Investments

If you invest in something, its more likely to happen. Investing in colonial ventures, inventions, many other things. You must invest in things to make them grow and flourish.

Projects

Basically Wonders or reforms or some big thing you want to do. You tell me what it does. And if to keep it secret or not. I will tell you how many economy points it will take to complete it. Nothing fancy. (0/3) means 3 economy points to complete it.

Nation Background

To better fit in as the ruler of your country, you will have a brief history of each country here

Luckymoose · Jan 5, 2007

Nation List:For Reservation

The Kingdom of Portugal- shortguy
The Republic of Spain- conehead
The Republic of Ireland
The United Kingdom of Great Britain- Nuclear Kid
The Republic of France- Cuivienen
The Empire of All Russia's- Azale
The Dutch Republic-Disenfrancised
The Swiss Federation
The Prussian Empire- Kal'thzar
The Habsburg Empire of Austria-
The Ottoman Empire- Kenthura
The Scandinavian Republic-Finmaster
Canadian Republic- j_eps
New Englander Federation-Swiss Empire
Democratic Republic of America-Josefstalinator
Louisianian Empire- Symphony D.
The Sonoran Republic
The Mexican Republic- The Major
The Republic of the Yucatan
The Guatemalan Republic
The Lombardian Republic-The Farow
The Italian Republic
Qing China- fantasmo
The Empire of Japan- Darkening
Sultanate of Gao
Kingdom of Benin
Dahomey
Kanem-Bornu
Funj Kingdom
Abyssinia
Xhosa Empire
Merina Kingdom
Sultanate of Oman
The Afghan Khanate
Sikh Punjab
Sind
Sultanate of Mysore-
Burma
Siam
Vietnam
Brunei Sultanate
Peruvian Empire
Kingdom of Hawai'i

This NES is set in the Peter III Timeline created by Das. The Entire Timeline can be found below:
The Preview/Setup
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7
Part 8

Luckymoose · Jan 5, 2007

The Mysore-Punjab Allaince
The Francophone Entente(Canda and Louisiana)
The Holy Alliance(The United Kingdom of Great Britain, The Prussian Empire, The Habsburg Empire of Austria, The Empire of All Russia's)
The French Entente(Scandinavian Republic, The French Republic, The Ottoman Empire)
The English Alliance(The Democratic Republic of America, The New Englander Federation)

Spoiler STATS :

YOU MAY NOW POST. NATION NAMES WILL BE UP SOON YOU CAN RESERVE NOW IF YOU WANT

JosefStalinator · Jan 5, 2007

I'll retake the Southern Nation (Democratic Republic of America or something).

And if this is a preview thread, why all the reservations?

Luckymoose · Jan 5, 2007

JosefStalinator said:
I'll retake the Southern Nation (Democratic Republic of America or something).

And if this is a preview thread, why all the reservations?

Cause. Thats what preview threads are for.

Swissempire · Jan 5, 2007

As previously confirmed, the New England Federation is mine.

Luckymoose · Jan 5, 2007

Stats are up for all you that wish to see them.

Symphony D. · Jan 5, 2007

Calling Louisianian Empire.

JosefStalinator · Jan 5, 2007

Heh, interesting, I thought I'd be able to relax in my little corner of the new world...

Symphony D. · Jan 5, 2007

You took my first pick. So I picked the more strategically sound option nearby.

Finmaster · Jan 5, 2007

Calling Scandinavia.

Israelite9191 · Jan 5, 2007

Was going to take Louisiana, but was too late. Oh well, will lurk.

Luckymoose · Jan 5, 2007

Some of you people online at least look at my thread.

Lord_Iggy · Jan 5, 2007

I'm here, I just vowed not to join any new NESes until I've swam out of the sea of homework I'm in.

I've finally finished the correspondence course I've been working on since July, by the way.

Luckymoose · Jan 5, 2007

Lord_Iggy said:
I'm here, I just vowed not to join any new NESes until I've swam out of the sea of homework I'm in.

I've finally finished the correspondence course I've been working on since July, by the way.

Good I'll sign you up as the Ottomans.

Lord_Iggy · Jan 5, 2007

I've had it with those guys. And with Russia as powerful as it is... bleh.

TheBladeRoden · Jan 5, 2007

Damn, is Das available for hire for backstory writing?

JosefStalinator · Jan 5, 2007

Israelite9191 said:
Was going to take Louisiana, but was too late. Oh well, will lurk.

Come now Israel, you can't get into a single other nation on the map?

Lord_Iggy · Jan 5, 2007

He's quite busy. Israelite'll probably only join a NES if he sees a country he really likes.

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