G-Major 8: January Warlords Gauntlet

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While the general Hall of Fame is an ongoing competition, we like to run time-definite competitions between updates that we call Gauntlets. Standard Hall of Fame rules (*) still apply, but any games meeting the settings will be counted towards the Gauntlet.

[size=+2](*) Please read the >> HOF rules << BEFORE playing!
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Settings:
  • Victory Condition: Domination (though all victory conditions must be enabled)
  • Difficulty: Prince
  • Starting Era: Ancient
  • Map Size: Large
  • Map Type: Any
  • Speed: Epic
  • Civ: Mongolia (Kublai Khan)
  • Opponents: Must include America (Roosevelt), China (Qin Shi Huang), Egypt (Ramesses II), England (Victoria), Germany (Bismark), Inca (Huayna Capac), India (Asoka), India (Gandhi), Korea (Wang Kon), Mongolia (Genghis Khan), Persia (Cyrus), Rome (Julius Caesar), Russia (Catherine), Russia (Stalin)
  • Version: 2.08.003
  • Date: 11th January to 9th February 2007
The earliest finish date wins, with score as a tiebreaker.


Note that this Gauntlet is 2.08.003 ONLY.

I'll be very interested to see how this one turns out. :mischief:
 
We'll get this one on the website as soon as we can, but you've got all the information you should need to start here.
 
Well, so I'm only 2 games away from quattromaster, whohoo. Hope I can tackle this major gauntlet finally.
 
Methos said:
We're playing as the Khan? Is Superslug feeling okay or did one of the other staff create this game? :confused:
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Kublai isn't as bad as Genghis. And I had my reasons in choosing him. ;)
 
I started a game but I haven't been able to find Stalin. Now, he could have been killed off or I could have not included him. Is there a way that someone can tell me if he was in my game without me having to play the whole thing?
 
sigh - 14 opponents, no Stalin, Saladin in his place. Did I mention that I love playing the beginning of games!
 
I see no mention of any barbarian limitations. Before I start my quest for the missing quattromaster link I'd like to know if barbs are allowed to be off?
 
As usual barb are an optional choice. Choose Barbs and you get additional score (if you manage to get the same result).
 
OK, after getting grounded 2 times again by more "active" neighbors, I'd be very gracious for any hints how to tackle this game. What map to choose? How much military units do I need to not be a "juicy target"? I often manage to pull off the Oracle-CS shortcut, and usually are first to Liberalism. Though I mostly get canned once I reached chemistry or even reaching for industrialism. It feels really awful if your shiny grenadiers get hacked down by giant stacks of middle age units. Or loosing continuously fights with a 90% chance.

Any hints?
 
Well I just finished.

Game went exactly to plan, CS-slingshot, take out closet neighbour (sorry Cathy), and get Military Tradition from Liberalism, already having hordes of Keshiks.

Problem: Slug's nemisis (you know the one) backstabbed me twice when I wasn't so prepapred :mad: , Stalin also did so once :mad:. I was #1 in power most of the game as well :confused:. I also got dragged into wars against Vicky and Gandhi I wasn't expecting when my latest target vassalized themselves. I'm sure this cost me at least 100 years.

I ended up with Genghis, Vicky, Qin and Roosevelt as vassals (I let them capitulate once they only had population 1 junk cities left). The last war for 1&#37; land I needed was against Huayana, who had a defensive pact with Cyrus. The diplo screen was crazy :confused: as me and my 4 vassals battled Huayana and Cyrus :lol:.

Was an interesting game, the overcrowded backstabbing AIs made for an interesting time. I played continents map, hoping I got all the nice ones on my continent and the nutcases were on another :lol:, didn't quite work that way. Julius was the one one not on my turf.
 
Bastian-Bux said:
What map to choose? How much military units do I need to not be a "juicy target"? I often manage to pull off the Oracle-CS shortcut, and usually are first to Liberalism. Though I mostly get canned once I reached chemistry or even reaching for industrialism.

Any hints?
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My main advise to you would be to use the strengths of your civ. Mongols UB is an upgraded stable that gives you +4 xp on mounted units, your UU also is a mounted unit, so go crazy on the mounted units, with just the ger and barracks (both cheap buildings) you get 7xp units! So use chariots, keshiks, knights and cavalry as much as possible.

Whatever map you're on the number (and selected nutcases) of AI means that you are going to be backstabbed when you're not expecting it, so don't let your military slide. Designate your highest production city to continually churn out military units (with Heroic Epic and War Academy and forge and West Point). Again mounted units are good for cleaning out enemy invasions.

Good luck and hope you make it :goodjob:
 
Bastian-Bux said:
I often manage to pull off the Oracle-CS shortcut,...
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Ozbenno said:
Game went exactly to plan, CS-slingshot.....
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:mad: Damn you people are good. Between Kublai's starting techs, three AI starting with Mining and Mysticism and the rest being Industrious, I was really trying to screw the CS slingshot over in this one.

Perhaps I'll try again in the future. :scan:
 
Well, I don't always manage it. You need marble at your starting position AND enough rivers or other money resources to get the research going fast enough. And you should use a map that doesn't have many resources (forget pangea, everyone and his granny has marble -> chances are you'll not make it).

Though for getting oracle and Gr Lib you'll have to sacrifice a lot of early expansion. Thus after trying Ozbennos useful hints (next time I'll remember to bring siege weapons too ;) ), the best approach seams to be:

Choose a map that is poor resources wise. If you happen to control all marble, early on, great.

Get your capital going, either as production or science center. You'll need another city to fill the other position.

Pull the CS-slingshot, best via animal, make sure you've got horses.

After that, you should probably not ever have to build a settler again.

As said, it does work even for newbs like me. Though remember: the best Keshik is worth nothing against more then 20% cultural defense.
 
Damn you people are good. Between Kublai's starting techs, three AI starting with Mining and Mysticism and the rest being Industrious, I was really trying to screw the CS slingshot over in this one.

Perhaps I'll try again in the future.
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cough higher level cough ;)
 
Well superslug, you did your worst. And its far from easy. Just got beaten by 6 turns to the oracle in turn 117. And thats having a start at a coast (with 3 tasty resources swimming around) 2 marble close by, plus fur and 2 deers ... Probably Huayana Capac got the 3rd marble to be found on the whole map.

The problem for the CS-slingshot isn't so much in the building. You can chop or whip a wonder, never a problem. The problem is to get those 2600 research points coming in before someone else builds the oracle.
 
I don't know if this is legal or not but I made 2 starting saves with the necessary opponents. If you load this save and then regenerate the map I don't think any HOF rules have been borken. If they have please let me know. THis could be something that gets done as a normal part of the gauntlet as it woud ensure that the settigns are correct and get more lazy people involved.

PLease do not play these maps without regenerating as I think that will get you disqualified

Moderator Action: Links removed.
 
macrobot said:
I don't know if this is legal or not but I made 2 starting saves with the necessary opponents.[/mod3]
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I appreciate you're trying to be helpful, but that's not something I'm going to allow at this time.
 
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