quickest way to get a time victory?

i don't care about the score, at all. i just want a time victory for my QM list. i had a good one going over a couple of weeks, 43 hours played time, and lost it since i accidentally closed civ4 and not the program i thought i was closing. as you can guess, i'm really frustrated and quite fed up with the year 2050. it wasn't even a fun game, i was doing it only to get the victory condition met.

i have this feeling i need to kind of "get back on the horse i fell off of" deal quick, and at least try it again, before i give up on all of HoF which i don't want to do, i've been having a ton of fun here. but i can't think of a quick way to do a time victory. so if anybody knows any way to get a fast (as far as real-time spent) time victory i'm all ears. i don't care how cheesy or how low the score, the lower the better actually, and of course, on settler difficulty. thanks.

KMadCandy said:

i don't care about the score, at all. i just want a time victory for my QM list. i had a good one going over a couple of weeks, 43 hours played time, and lost it since i accidentally closed civ4 and not the program i thought i was closing. as you can guess, i'm really frustrated and quite fed up with the year 2050. it wasn't even a fun game, i was doing it only to get the victory condition met.

i have this feeling i need to kind of "get back on the horse i fell off of" deal quick, and at least try it again, before i give up on all of HoF which i don't want to do, i've been having a ton of fun here. but i can't think of a quick way to do a time victory. so if anybody knows any way to get a fast (as far as real-time spent) time victory i'm all ears. i don't care how cheesy or how low the score, the lower the better actually, and of course, on settler difficulty. thanks.

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Quick Speed, Settler difficulty, Dual map size, one opponent. Found only one city, let 20+ military units surround the AI city. Research toward future tech, and use a minimal amount of workers.

Miraculix said:

Quick Speed, Settler difficulty, Dual map size, one opponent. Found only one city, let 20+ military units surround the AI city. Research toward future tech, and use a minimal amount of workers.

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hahaha now that sure would be different from my usual style! i shall give it a shot when my mood improves (the giggling at the very thought already helped with that). thanks!

i cannot stop laughing.

so i decide to give this a try, since i can't sleep anyway. i'm huayna and i picked washington as my victim. now keep in mind i've been playing the minor gauntlet, and on my best maps i never did get enough settlers from huts of course.

so i scout around with my settler in this game, to find washington, found him, picked a spot to settle, a hut will open with my first culture pop. and of course, a darn settler is what i get from the hut. in the ONLY game in my entire life i have EVER planned to settle only one city!

sid meier is out to get me, but i'm getting a kick out of it. i laughed so hard it scared my dogs.

Three words: Future Age start.

well i'll do future age if this doesn't work out. but i want the joy of out-teching the crap out of him since he'll have no tiles to work!

i realized i ought to be playing in warlords instead of vanilla. i think i'll be monty, since the whole style is going against my personality-type anyway. time to turn psycho, watch out!!!

maybe vs. mehmed. expansive and organized traits won't do him a heck of a lot of good if this plan comes together.

superslug said:

Three words: Future Age start.

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That's so you can toss nukes around, bud.

I think you've become legendary for nuking, especially against Khans.

Time games are good for experimenting with long-term strats and fiddling with builds to figure out how to do things better. One strat I love to do is perfect my OCC skills. It's fun. Just engage in a smackdown and play with transforming your economy from SE to CE to hybrid. It beats the boredom.

yeah i did learn a lot during the other time attempt that turned invalid. i'd never done total SE focus before. i mean i ended up irrigating my capital and running whichever civic it is that gives exp, as tho i needed 2 more exp when i had modern armor and the bad guys didn't even have musketmen. but i wanted specialists. and boy howdy were those GPs popping out. i was peter in warlords, that UB is seriously overpowered if you're just gonna play for years and years and want zillions of future techs. but, like, how often does that happen?

superslug, i majored in environmental engineering. i just have trouble using nukes. of course in the other game i did make a huge stockpile and then pass nonproliferation via UN. way back when they were like, research i dunno, theology seems like? but i didn't use 'em.

anyway, you guys are totally cheering me up and i am so glad i found this forum! shall we start a poll on whether playing as monty will help me relate to his issues and be more forgiving of his psychotic behavior in the future? nah, not a chance.

oh, just remembered before restarting for a better map to OCC it, to stack up on national wonders if i get the urge. phew, that would have been annoying. but i shall stick to miraculix's plan, since i bet i could trigger dom waaaaaay easy otherwise.

O M G! where do i report the AI for exploits? mehmed totally read my post and arranged this gem of a starting position:

On topic of time victories, what's best farming or cottaging?

Farming will give you a lot of pop.
Cottaging will give you a lot of techs.

I personally think a SE with farms is best.

dutchfire said:

On topic of time victories, what's best farming or cottaging?

Farming will give you a lot of pop.
Cottaging will give you a lot of techs.

I personally think a SE with farms is best.

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I think I have to agree with DF, SE with farms do rock! Cottages are nice, you get tons of income (and techs), but I think SE gives you a lot more flexibility.

Not to mention, you can easily transform an SE into a hybrid if you plan carefully , building cottages, working them until they grow to be towns, then stop working them in favor of SE (probably isn't the best tactic or use, but it works for emergency cash ), but if you play your cards right, you never need to use them.

KMadCandy said:

O M G! where do i report the AI for exploits? mehmed totally read my post and arranged this gem of a starting position:

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That's what you keep nukes in reserve for, ala Superslug.

farming gave me tons of techs in the one i exited out of, i had zillions of specialists. i was on settler mind you, but i was getting a future tech every turn even at 40% science. but at this point i just want a low score, and a map that'll work grrr.

KMadCandy said:

farming gave me tons of techs in the one i exited out of, i had zillions of specialists. i was on settler mind you, but i was getting a future tech every turn even at 40% science. but at this point i just want a low score, and a map that'll work grrr.

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Mapfinder is your friend!

DeafDolphin said:

Mapfinder is your friend!

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i keep meaning to check that out. the problem with these maps was #1 finding a map where i had a coastal path to reach him (on duel pangaea you both start on the coast, and sometimes there were ice blocks). and then i decided to try out impis, but kept getting no iron and no bronze grrrrrrr. i think i have a good one going now, i hope so! it's fun torturing him so far anyway.

KMadCandy said:

i keep meaning to check that out. the problem with these maps was #1 finding a map where i had a coastal path to reach him (on duel pangaea you both start on the coast, and sometimes there were ice blocks). and then i decided to try out impis, but kept getting no iron and no bronze grrrrrrr. i think i have a good one going now, i hope so! it's fun torturing him so far anyway.

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Well, since you won't use the Superslug Tactic, try the Vikings. They do have those lovely little boats and those absolutely fearsome Berserkers. Get 3 boats crammed full of Berserkers and go raiding.

i don't vant to keeell him. i vant to torture him. i am making him unable to work as many tiles as possible, while building up more impi horde to stand on the tiles and gloat!!! i am gonna kill him some more in a bit to get the higher level units i need for whichever wonder thingies. and GGs, i have no GGs yet and they're part of why i changed to warlords.

yes i'm odd.

i did use the vikings for an arch map, first try on both, for the QM table. the worked out great, but part of it was making them before they went obsolete and upgrading them to keep the amphibious. i'm kinda poor in this game. OCC and mehmed kinda doesn't have a trade route with me atm *giggle*. even a shrine wouldn't help!

i feel like i'm filling up this forum with chatter, i apologize to those who i drive nuts and hope you can just ignore it.

You're not filling it with chatter. It's a tactics discussion

I usually find using berserkers are a great way to keep someone crippled - raid his coastal cities improvements, maybe send 2 berserkers you can lose into deep territory to pillage. Yanking towns down hurts financially and research wise. Even better if you can cripple his resources. And you get money from the pillaging, even if it's just 2 gold.

All kinds of nasty things you can do with those. Impi are good for that tactic too, anything is. Pity scouts/explorers can't pillage. I'd love to see an explorer unit have that ability, it would make them useful in a tactical sense, rather than the strategic sense of scouting to find troops and improvement locations. They'd be cheaper than mounted units for that purpose, but eh.

now see there's a tactic i hadn't thought about in this context til i saw you post it here. i've had him trapped in there since like turn 15. he built one farm on corn and since then his poor widdle worker has been cooped up in town. now there's 4 archers, 2 warriors, 2 workers, and a work boat in there. none promoted, i guess he hasn't built a barracks.

if i get too poor (76g now and losing 3 a turn at 100%, never did change it off 100 but got a bunch from huts), i just may give him a break to build stuff so i can tear it down. pillaging wars are fun, i did those in the other game to cripple the bad guys. i didn't want their cities, would put me in danger of domination, but ripping up those towns is profitable for me and quite painful for them techwise, you are so right!

i just built globe theatre. believe it or not, i have never ever used the nationhood civic but i'm gonna try it out this time. nifty.

KMadCandy said:

superslug, i majored in environmental engineering.

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Interesting, I have Ph.D in Mongolian Radioactive Cremation Rituals.

KMadCandy said:

Believe it or not, i have never ever used the nationhood civic but i'm gonna try it out this time. nifty.

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It's pretty useless under most conditions. I admit I've never used it before. How did it come out for you?

superslug said:

Interesting, I have Ph.D in Mongolian Radioactive Cremation Rituals.

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That made me laugh so hard I added it to my sig. Thanks!

superslug said:

Interesting, I have Ph.D in Mongolian Radioactive Cremation Rituals.

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I laughed out loud at work at this thanks

Future age start on quick speed settler would be the quickest finish. Wouldn't matter which civ you played, you'd win for sure.