Declare Your Independence: Fight the Merger with Apolyton!

When in the Course of Civilization’s events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the internet bandwiths which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Civ and of Civ’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all civvers are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Mods, Forums, and the pursuit of Conquest Victory. That to secure these rights, CFC has been instituted among Men, deriving its just powers from the consent of the civvers, That whenever any Forum of CFC becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Fanatics Center, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Centers long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such websites, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these Civ Fans; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former System of Forums. The history of the present King of CFC is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these civvers. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has insisted upon an arbitrary merger between the CFC and other websites, to be named CivJunction.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of civvers, unless those civvers would relinquish the right of free access to popular CFC features, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records (namely civjunction.com), for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has made civvers dependent on his Will alone, for the future of their free discourse, and the amount and ability of their free access to Mods and Games.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers (Apolytoners) to harass our People, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Moderators without the Consent of our legislature.

He has combined with others from Apolyton to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their acts of pretended legislation:

For quartering large bodies of Apolytoners among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any offenses which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these Forums:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world by means of a tax on the GOTM and HOF:

For imposing these taxes on us without our Consent:

For taking away our Free Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our beloved Civilization Fanatics Center:

For suspending our own Legislature, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a Civilized Civ Site.


In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a Free People.

Nor have We been wanting in attention to our Apolyton brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and downloads. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of civvers, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the United Civvers of CFC, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Forums, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Civvers are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the CFC Crown, and that all political connection between them and the Civilization Fanatics Center, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to make posts, create mods, conclude GOTMs, contract HOFs, discuss Civilization, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the Protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Mods, our Avatars, and our sacred Honor.

YARRR! I will sign this petition!

Disclaimer: Just to prevent the possibility of misunderstandings, this is a spoof, not a personal attack on this site or Thunderfall. I actually admire him very much and am quite fond of CFC. However, it is meant to accurately reflect our feelings toward this supposed 'merger'.

EDIT: Everyone who voted in favor of our resolution go here, the new HQ of the resistance.
Click here for the battle plans to restore liberty to Civilization.
And here for the CFC Popular Liberation Front, one of our allies in this great cause.

You, my friend, have too much time on your hands.

Oh yeah!


If we merge i'm gonna strap a bomb to my chest and blow up Civ4 - Game of the Month forum! Never liked that one.

Catharsis said:

You, my friend, have too much time on your hands.

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Way, WAY too much! (Just look at my great people mod!)

No Giant Radioactive Monkey option?!

Of course I sign this petition!

What about OTers? Don't they count.

I will die for our cause!

Considering the timing, I expect Thunderfall to come out with an announcement tomorrow saying "Gotcha! lol WTH pwn!"

A very good first post on this fateful date.

I'm normally peace-loving, but DIE SCUMBAGS MAKING US PAY FOR GOTM AND GENERALLY BEING BASTARDS.

Cleric said:

I will die for our cause!

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I'm loving the C&C Generals quotes.


In the news recently, colonsts civvers dressed in Roman garb siezed great sums of coffee crates in the Civ III C&C forum and cast them into the sea in brave definace of our oppressors!

I sign this petition, in the event that this turns out not to be an April Fools' Day prank.

I RedwallFortress hereby swear to uphold a independent CFC.
I will fight the merger so long as I can.

We will Survive!!!!

Long Live The Free CFC!!!

Now all we need to do is get French aid!

This post comes in the hope that it will find the place in your mind where rationality resides and where decency and sanity, coupled with a healthy sense of anger, will trigger appropriate action. Permit me this forum to rant. Yes, you heard me right; Thunderfall has the nerve to call those of us who deal summarily with garrulous vagrants "conspiracy theorists". No, we're "conspiracy revealers" because we reveal that it's time for Thunderfall to get back on the reality bus. Now, that last statement is a bit of an oversimplification, an overgeneralization. But it is nevertheless substantially true. To most people, the idea that Thunderfall's primary motivation is self-enrichment at our expense is so endemic, so long ingrained, that when others conclude that its theories are not normal, this merely seems to be affirming an obvious truth. To cheat on taxes has never been something that I wanted to do. Never.

In the past, men like Thunderfall would have been tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail for trying to feed us a diet of robbery, murder, violence, and all other manner of trials and tribulations. It is deeply unfortunate that there's a distinction to be made here, since if anything, this is not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, where the state would be eager to exhibit a deep disdain for all people who are not spleeny, dirty twaddlers. Not yet, at least. But it's possible that Thunderfall doesn't realize this because it has been ingrained with so much of narcissism's propaganda. If that's the case, I recommend that we give the needy a helping hand, as opposed to an elbow in the face. Thunderfall believes that those of us who oppose it would rather run than fight. Sorry, but I have to call foul on that one. Thunderfall drops the names of famous people whenever possible. That makes it sound smarter than it really is and obscures the fact that if a cogent, logical argument entered Thunderfall's brain, no doubt a concussion would result. Listen carefully: Thunderfall uses the word "gastrohysterorrhaphy" without ever having taken the time to look it up in the dictionary. Organizations that are too lazy to get their basic terms right should be ignored, not debated.

Ruffianism and revisionism are not synonymous. In fact, they are so frequently in opposition and so universally irreconcilable that the basal lie that underlies all of Thunderfall's soporific, irritable prank phone calls is that we should abandon the institutionalised and revered concept of democracy. Translation: It's okay if Thunderfall's indiscretions initially cause our quality of life to degrade because "sometime", "someone" will do "something" "somehow" to counteract that trend. I doubt you need any help from me to identify the supreme idiocy of those views, but you should nevertheless be aware that if Thunderfall got its way, it'd be able to pose a threat to the survival of democracy. Brrrr! It sends chills down my spine just thinking about that.

Strictly speaking, if we let Thunderfall supplant one form of injustice with another, then greed, corruption, and pessimism will characterize the government. Oppressive measures will be directed against citizens. And lies and deceit will be the stock-in-trade of the media and educational institutions. Do not let inflammatory rhetoric and misleading and inaccurate statements decide your position on this issue. One of Thunderfall's forces keeps throwing "scientific" studies at me, claiming they prove that Thunderfall is a martyr for freedom and a victim of solecism. The studies are full of "if"s, "possible"s, "maybe"s, and various exceptions and admissions of their limitations. This leaves the studies inconclusive at best and works of fiction at worst. The only thing these studies can possibly prove is that Thunderfall is totally gung-ho about emotionalism because it lacks more pressing soapbox issues. So that there may be no misunderstanding, let me make it clear that the facts as I see them simply do not support the false, but widely accepted, notion that disreputable, abusive liars and cheats are all inherently good, sensitive, creative, and inoffensive.

Take this example: Let's say that I get concerned when I see Thunderfall make mountains out of molehills. Now let's say that Thunderfall should slither back under whatever rock it crawled out from. Does that mean that it can scare us by using big words like "mediterraneanisation"? No, because Thunderfall's buddies, who are legion, believe that Thunderfall has the linguistic prowess to produce a masterwork of meritorious literature. Although it is perhaps impossible to change the perspective of those who have such beliefs, I wish nevertheless to force Thunderfall into deserved bankruptcy. It is imperative that all of us in this community break the spell of great expectations that now binds unregenerate buggers to Thunderfall. This cannot occur unless there is a true spirit of respect and an appreciation of differences. Sorry for babbling so much, but Thunderfall wants to rid the world of "defective" people.