Huge Earth Map? which one you prefer

I wanted to know your opinions about huge earth maps. generally there are two popular huge earth maps:
"Earth Map, 24 civs for Warlords" by Rhye
"Giant Earth Map (Eurasia Upscaled), 24 civs" by Genghis_Kai
and I would like to know your opinions only about those two

after tried both of them few times (single player only) I would definitly chose map by Genghis_Kai, because of:
- don't know much about MP map balance but this map looks like much balanced than Rhye's map where only europe has very lots of resources, rest has less than europe, for example south america has very few resources. In Genghis_Kai map every continent has lots of resources
- it's really realistic that chinese own about 20 rices etc. that makes game more realistic, i think there aren't many countries that has no rice in supermarkets this way chinese could trade with rest of world
- I think Genghis_Kai puts a lots more work on his map than Rhye
- visually map looks better

what do you think of those maps and if you tried them on MP which one was much balanced? sorry for bad english

I know that at least one of them has America in position as of 4000 BC, which bothered me. Does the other one fix this? I had to pretend the "Americans" were some other tribe of natives...

MusX said:

- I think Genghis_Kai puts a lots more work on his map than Rhye

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You can hardly prove this. I'm sure he did put a lot of work into his map but so did I.

MusX said:

- it's really realistic that chinese own about 20 rices etc. that makes game more realistic
- visually map looks better

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Of course, as it's bigger. A bigger map has its pros, and its cons too, which you didn't mention. Such as the fact that my map is "huge": that means that it's quite slow and some PCs lag between turns. The other one, being "giant" (more or less 2X) is even much worse.

Rhye said:

You can hardly prove this.

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I disagree. I think your map is great too. But if I have to pick one, I pick Genghis Kai's because of the scientific article - like literature review he had put behind it.

Besides, he was putting most of his modding time to create the map, while you were creating a totally different game.

Of course I love Ghengis Kai's giant earth map, but it is just too big, and so plays to slow and causes MAF. So my favorite earth map is Pantastic Worlds by Pantastic. It is bigger than Rhye's but smaller than Ghengis Kai's giant earth. I have no problems with MAF on this map. I also like the huge earth map that comes with Total Realism, but I think it can only be used with that mod.

Pantastic 24 Civ Huge Earth (42.2 KB) Download File
Author: Pantastic (Uploaded by Pantastic)
Date Added: Aug 21, 2006
Downloads: 1263
Rating: Not Rated
Description
This is a huge earth map with all 24 civs, it differs from the 'standard' map with an expanded Europe to give those civs a little breathing room and various modified land to help gameplay. Since even this expanded Europe is pretty crowded, I placed the Celts in SE Asia where there's a resource-rich gap between China and India.

This map owes a lot to Niust's Realism map, which I used as the base, and which comes from Rhye's original huge earth map.

Note: To use this map, you need to be running Warlords with a 24 civ mod; it won't work with vanilla Civ4 or Warlords. The simplest way is to get this is to download and install Rhye's 24 civ mod from here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...do=file&id=175

knigh+ said:

I disagree. I think your map is great too. But if I have to pick one, I pick Genghis Kai's because of the scientific article - like literature review he had put behind it.

Besides, he was putting most of his modding time to create the map, while you were creating a totally different game.

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Actually I spent a few months before the release of Civ4 (far earlier than working on my mod) on making the Earth together with Earth Ice Age, 1000AD and Greek World.
But this is not the point; I shouldn't be here justifying my work, both are great maps and it's just not right to say that one puts less work than another. Just pick the one whose size you like more.

They are both great maps with their pros and cons, both painstakingly made over the course of many, many hours by two brilliant map creators. It's not really very nice to call one "better" than the other and to downplay the work that the other has put into his map. The maps are both excellent, and they serve different purposes for different people and different computers.

Where can I get the bigger one?

Rhye said:

both are great maps and it's just not right to say that one puts less work than another.

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yes, your right, your map is really good too!
I didn't want to knock you here. sorry for that... i wanted to know which one is much balanced for multiplayer? and nobody answer that

I simply feel honoured being able to be compared with Rhye! I've been playing his map since Civ3 and his map has always been officially included in the game! While I was just making the map for fun (my only entertainment while I was writing up my PhD thesis )

I think Rhye has definitely put a lot of effort in his map as well. One thing I should point out is that I've just simply used the 24 civ dll file created by Rhye in my map. Otherwise it would probably take me weeks to figure out how to make that work!

In terms of balance, I think relatively, Rhye's map has focused for game play and my map is more focused on being realistic and historic. So I think he has invested more of his time for game play testing (maybe?) while I have invested my time to do research on map scaling to give the desired scale between different sections of the world and real resource distribution.

AThousandYoung said:

Where can I get the bigger one?

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See my signiture.

any new votes please