Session Start: Mon May 28 09:03:23 2007
Session Ident: #turnchat
* Now talking in #turnchat
* Topic is 'Turnchat - 100AD - Friday, May 11th, 2:00pm EDT (1800GMT)'
* Set by DaveShack on Fri May 11 18:44:03
* Chieftess sets mode: +v dutchfire
<MSTK> Did I miss the time zone again? Or am I right this time?
<dutchfire> You're right, I've just started up Civ
<MSTK> I haven't attended a turnchat in at least two years. are they usually this quiet these days? Or is this just an unusual hour?
<dutchfire> unusual hour
<dutchfire> reassigned tiles, withdrew troops from Marseilles
<dutchfire> so you're a DG veteran then?
<MSTK> I was pretty active in the Civ3 Demogames
<MSTK> before Civ4 came out, at least.
<dutchfire> okay
<MSTK> so from what I can gather in this current game, we're at war with the French?
<dutchfire> Metal Casting for Calendar and 120 gold executed with Julius
<dutchfire> correct, he invaded us, and we beat him up
<MSTK> yeah, as I've read. Things seem to be going well. Don't let me bother you or clutter up the log.
<dutchfire> doesn't matter to me
<dutchfire> pressed enter, kill two axes near Paris in the interturn
<dutchfire> Orleans comes online
<dutchfire> interesting Interturn, buddhism spreads to Orleans, Zoroaster has been born in NotA, Ptolemy in Berlin and JULIUS DECLARES ON BISMARCK
<MSTK> the plot thickens
<dutchfire> I think I'll continue playing for now
<MSTK> Did instructions say to attempt to take Paris?
<dutchfire> yes they did, I'm bombing them now
<dutchfire> but I'm thinking of waiting for a mace or two before attacking the city
<MSTK> How many are on route?
<dutchfire> 0 at the moment, one being built, but there are some horse units coming
<dutchfire> finsih monarchy, no clear orders for next tech
<dutchfire> Munich is captured by the Romans
<dutchfire> Complete Kong Miao (Shrine)
<dutchfire> Kill a French axe near Paris
<dutchfire> it's time to change civics
<dutchfire> started the attack on Paris
<MSTK> Initiated appropriate sacrifices to RNG gods.
<dutchfire> they worked
<dutchfire> a catapult withdrew against all odds, dealing collateral damage
<dutchfire> then a Keshik defeated a spearman with only 29% odds
<MSTK> Hoorah
<dutchfire> killed an axe and an archer too!
<dutchfire> axeman kills archer
<MSTK> Paris is worth a mass, I suppose.
<MSTK> (Sorry, but I've been wanting to use that quote for an eternity now)
<dutchfire> lol
<dutchfire> they've got 3 defenders left, and we've only got 2 attackers, each with <50% chances though
<MSTK> what were the initial numbers?
<dutchfire> I killed 4 defenders
<dutchfire> pillaged coppermine, bring in new troops for final attack next turn
<dutchfire> next turn we'll hopefully capture Paris and a barb city
<dutchfire> captured Ainu
<dutchfire> Keshik dies (he had 80% odds!)
<MSTK> wow
<dutchfire> another Keshik kills an axe
<dutchfire> Cat kills axe
<dutchfire> Cat kills archer
<dutchfire> Paris is ours! (127 gold)
<MSTK> congrats
<MSTK> Was that the last of France?
<dutchfire> no, two cities left, marseilles to our NW, and Tours just south of Paris
<dutchfire> Bismarck asks us to cancel deals with Caesar, I say no
<MSTK> ah, I see Marseilles on the map. Tours was hiding on the tip of the Frenc Peninsula, I guess.
<dutchfire> yes, it is (I haven't seen the city yet though
<MSTK> Would it be beneficial to pick a side in this Roman-Germany War? Or we could just let it sizzle out in the north on its own, hopefully as a war of attrition.
<dutchfire> sizzle out, and perhaps later attack on of them
<dutchfire> start some new builds according to instructions
<MSTK> i think that choice would be left to the masses in the DG. When are you ending the turnchat?
<dutchfire> either when I'm ready to capture Tours to decide if we want to keep it, or when I've played 10 turns
<dutchfire> I'm now in turn 6 btw
<dutchfire> Tours is hardly defended, 1 spear, 1 archer
<MSTK> think we could take it out this turnchat?
<dutchfire> probably
<dutchfire> Ainu comes online, starts granary
<dutchfire> we can take out Tours next turn, at some cost
<MSTK> i don't think that there's much threat of it being retaken.
<dutchfire> Notre Dame has been built in a far away land!
<dutchfire> no, but the question is if Tours is worth the upkeep
<dutchfire> The city has two sea resources, but is basically overlapping Paris
<dutchfire> If I wait another turn, we can probably knock out France for good, I've moved in on Marseilles and Tours
<dutchfire> to keep Tours, to raze Tours, or to end the TC?
<MSTK> To be safe, I think I'd end the TC in favor of getting opinions from the DG
<dutchfire> yeah, I'll do that know
<dutchfire> Keeping it would be stupid IMO, but the DG has a tendency to do stupid, but heroic, things
<dutchfire> Game saved, going to take some screenshots, start some discussions, etc.
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* Chieftess sets mode: +v Furiey
<Furiey> Hi, turnchat over?
<MSTK> yeah, sorry
<MSTK> just two minutes ago actually
<dutchfire> yeah
<Furiey> Oh well, closest I've got to attending one for a long time
<dutchfire> We're basically ready to kill the last two French cities
<MSTK> haha, tell me about it.
<MSTK> this is the first one i've caught in two years.
<Furiey> too many middle of the night or middle of the day ones for me
<MSTK> Yeah, we've pretty much got French cornered into two cities that we could easily take. It's whether or not they're worth taking that's the main issue.
<dutchfire> If you want I could upload the save now, and you could take a look
<Furiey> he'll always hate us and just cause unhappiness, get risd of them now or a bit later but we'll have to get rid of them at some point
<dutchfire> sure, but should we raze his cities or not, that's the real question
<dutchfire> note: we now have 17% of the worlds land area, with some cities still able to pop their borders several times
<MSTK> This game is pangea? continents?
<dutchfire> Continents (2 continents)
<dutchfire> Bismarck has 12% at the moment
<Furiey> good grief it's nomination time already!
<dutchfire> Go nominate yourself for DP, you'll be able to attend at least 1 chat
<Furiey> sorry I have problems with running Civ 4
<Furiey> Warlords cured that problem and introduced another so I can't run that either
<dutchfire> have you tried running it on the lowest graphics settings? (I'm sure you patched it)
<Furiey> Yep and yep, I see floodplains in unexplored ground - it's my graphics card, Warlord I get no text in the menus!
<Furiey> but don't see floodplains
<dutchfire> I see floodplains in unexplored grounds every now and then too, but I don't really mind
<Furiey> all the time for me - too difficult to ignore, plus it crashes fairly regulalry and is very slow
<dutchfire> the first time I started up the game, it crashed on loading the start up screen, so I've come a long way (without upgrading my computer)
<Furiey> so have I, it took me ages to find a way to play it at all, I get the insert corredt CD error (it's a DVD)
<MSTK> well, it's getting late over here in California. I'll catch up later.
<Furiey> bye
<dutchfire> have you tried running windowed mode? (in the config file, set fullscreen to 0)
<dutchfire> bye
<Furiey> yep, I do
<dutchfire> It's still early in Europe
<MSTK> it's been nice...attending.
<MSTK> yeah, apparently it was 7am GMT?
<MSTK> i'm still terrible with figuring out time zones
<Furiey> yep, 8am uk time (BST)
<dutchfire> 9 AM central european summer time
<MSTK> heh. one day I'll get the hang of it. Either that or they post time conversions on Turnchat Instructions thread
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<dutchfire> I'm going to post the save, the summary, this chatlog and my screenshots now
<Furiey> ok, I must go anyway - got to get the dinner ready - family coming
<dutchfire> okay
<Furiey> bye
<dutchfire> bye
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