[BtS] Diplomacy text: ActualQuotes for BtS

Willowmound · Jul 28, 2007, 09:53 AM

Version 4.20 (uploaded 2 March 2008)

This mod replaces the original leader-specific diplomacy text with text based on attributed quotes. Some of the quotes are famous, some not so famous, and all have been implemented as seamlessly as possible so as to become a natural part of the text. Many quotes have been paraphrased or tweaked to make this possible.

The way the game decides what a given leader will say when in diplomacy, is by choosing from a pool of generic dialogue and from dialogue specific to the leader. This mod contains new leader-specific text based on things leaders actually said (in the case of the more recent ones) or on how they wished to be remembered (in the case of ancient ones).

Many leaders have so many good quotes I've increased the pools of leader-specific text. I have also made some alterations in generic text in order to keep the overall tone of diplomacy consistent. There is still humour to be found, but some of the more juvenile jokes are gone.

For more details on the quotes and sources, please see the readme-file. I have used well over 300 individual, actual quotes, so there is quite a lot of new text.

NEW to v4.20:

- new extra quotes for Lincoln, De Gaulle, Pericles and Sitting Bull
- complete rewrite of Ragnar's text – no more rhymes!
- fixed issue that prevented certain quotes from showing
- did further tweaks of generic text – now even less silliness
- fixed a few typos and some minor style issues

Get the files here!

To use the ActualQuotes diplomacy mod, unzip to:

…My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\CustomAssets\XML\

Or, if you want to add to a specific mod only:

…Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier’s Civilization 4\Beuond the Sword\Mods\[YourMod]\Assets\XML\

Enjoy!

***

Other versions available:

For a Spanish translation courtesy of Terkhen, see this post.

Warlords version
Vanilla version

Willowmound · Jul 28, 2007, 09:54 AM

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Theseus · Jul 28, 2007, 11:02 AM

... "Whose words all ears took captive!"

Very cool, thanks Willowmound.

Willowmound · Jul 28, 2007, 01:07 PM

Glad you like.

Vrenir · Jul 28, 2007, 01:21 PM

I love this mod. Thanks.

By the way, where do you find all these quotes? Do you really pour through all the relevant sources looking for something good? Whatever you do, it makes the historic and cultural nature of the leaders much more interesting.

tazpn314 · Jul 28, 2007, 01:23 PM

Thanks for making an update for this. One of my more favorite mods because its simple and does not alter gameplay but vastly improves the experience.

Willowmound · Jul 28, 2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrenir

Do you really pour through all the relevant sources looking for something good?

Yup! Well, I'm a good skim-reader

Willowmound · Jul 28, 2007, 01:51 PM

Apologies: I seem to have put the thread in the wrong sub forum. Hopefully a mod will move it shortly.

Ashbery76 · Jul 28, 2007, 06:11 PM

I hated the cheese in the vanilla.I will give it a try.

Lars_Domus · Jul 28, 2007, 06:20 PM

Splendid! It's always a pleasure to see what you have come up with for these mods, especially for the more obscure leaders

Bursk · Jul 29, 2007, 05:28 PM

Willowmound, thanks a lot for the mod. I'm wondering if Boudica's "The Gods are on our side in our quest for vengeance." should have a capital G for Gods.

Willowmound · Jul 30, 2007, 01:13 AM

Yes, I decided to capitalise God and Gods in all instances. It's what in the publishing industry is called a 'house style' decision. Neither is right or wrong. It's a matter of preference, and to some extent context.

Thanks for your input!

And thanks to everyone who've left kind words so far.

NikNaks · Jul 30, 2007, 02:16 AM

How did I miss this? Great job, Willowmound! Can I use this in my mod?

Willowmound · Jul 30, 2007, 05:05 AM

Please do!

Bursk · Jul 30, 2007, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willowmound

Yes, I decided to capitalise God and Gods in all instances. It's what in the publishing industry is called a 'house style' decision. Neither is right or wrong. It's a matter of preference, and to some extent context.

Thanks for your input!

And thanks to everyone who've left kind words so far.

Fair enough! Just thought I should double-check.

jpinard · Jul 30, 2007, 07:28 AM

Awesome mod!

Willowmound · Aug 04, 2007, 03:57 AM

Whaddaya know -- we have a winner!

We won the modding contest over at GameFlood. The Warlords version of this mod got "Best RTS mini-mod"!

It's time to celebrate with a profusion of smilies:

A big thank-you to all guys who voted in the initial round. This couldn't have happened without you...

~

Chuggi · Aug 04, 2007, 06:37 AM

I liked this mod for Warlords, but I also remember the Vikings speeches which were so annoying that they drove me to hate it

Willowmound · Aug 04, 2007, 06:39 AM

Find me a better set of quotes, and I'll consider them. They're not my favourites either.

Chuggi · Aug 04, 2007, 08:28 AM

Maybe the default quotes just for Ragnor, or maybe real quotes from another viking leader which is easier to find. They're not great ideas but I really hate the poetry he's using atm.

Jul 28, 2007, 09:53 AM	#1
Willowmound Wordbug Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Afloat Posts: 2,219	[BtS] Diplomacy text: ActualQuotes for BtS Version 4.20 (uploaded 2 March 2008) This mod replaces the original leader-specific diplomacy text with text based on attributed quotes. Some of the quotes are famous, some not so famous, and all have been implemented as seamlessly as possible so as to become a natural part of the text. Many quotes have been paraphrased or tweaked to make this possible. The way the game decides what a given leader will say when in diplomacy, is by choosing from a pool of generic dialogue and from dialogue specific to the leader. This mod contains new leader-specific text based on things leaders actually said (in the case of the more recent ones) or on how they wished to be remembered (in the case of ancient ones). Many leaders have so many good quotes I've increased the pools of leader-specific text. I have also made some alterations in generic text in order to keep the overall tone of diplomacy consistent. There is still humour to be found, but some of the more juvenile jokes are gone. For more details on the quotes and sources, please see the readme-file. I have used well over 300 individual, actual quotes, so there is quite a lot of new text. NEW to v4.20: - new extra quotes for Lincoln, De Gaulle, Pericles and Sitting Bull - complete rewrite of Ragnar's text – no more rhymes! - fixed issue that prevented certain quotes from showing - did further tweaks of generic text – now even less silliness - fixed a few typos and some minor style issues Get the files here! To use the ActualQuotes diplomacy mod, unzip to: …My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\CustomAssets\XML\ Or, if you want to add to a specific mod only: …Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier’s Civilization 4\Beuond the Sword\Mods\[YourMod]\Assets\XML\ Enjoy! * Other versions available: For a Spanish translation courtesy of Terkhen, see this post. Warlords version Vanilla version __________________ Still playing Civ IV? Try ActualQuotes** -- leaders speak their own actual words Last edited by Willowmound; Dec 06, 2011 at 04:30 AM.

Jul 28, 2007, 09:54 AM	#2
Willowmound Wordbug Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Afloat Posts: 2,219	Version 4.20 screenshots... __________________ Still playing Civ IV? Try ActualQuotes -- leaders speak their own actual words Last edited by Willowmound; Mar 02, 2008 at 11:29 AM.

Jul 28, 2007, 01:07 PM	#4
Willowmound Wordbug Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Afloat Posts: 2,219	Glad you like. __________________ Still playing Civ IV? Try ActualQuotes -- leaders speak their own actual words

Jul 28, 2007, 01:21 PM	#5
Vrenir King Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Washington State Posts: 818 Images: 10	I love this mod. Thanks. By the way, where do you find all these quotes? Do you really pour through all the relevant sources looking for something good? Whatever you do, it makes the historic and cultural nature of the leaders much more interesting. __________________ Xikorolsur. My Leaderhead Request Thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...20#post7525520

Jul 28, 2007, 01:51 PM	#8
Willowmound Wordbug Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Afloat Posts: 2,219	Apologies: I seem to have put the thread in the wrong sub forum. Hopefully a mod will move it shortly. __________________ Still playing Civ IV? Try ActualQuotes -- leaders speak their own actual words

Jul 28, 2007, 11:02 AM	#3
Theseus Chieftain Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 68	... "Whose words all ears took captive!" Very cool, thanks Willowmound.

Jul 28, 2007, 01:23 PM	#6
tazpn314 Chieftain Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 49	Thanks for making an update for this. One of my more favorite mods because its simple and does not alter gameplay but vastly improves the experience.

Jul 28, 2007, 06:11 PM	#9
Ashbery76 Warlord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: England Posts: 120	I hated the cheese in the vanilla.I will give it a try.

Jul 28, 2007, 06:20 PM	#10
Lars_Domus Say No 2 Net Validations Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 448	Splendid! It's always a pleasure to see what you have come up with for these mods, especially for the more obscure leaders __________________ A stone age warrior with a wooden club can singlehandedly wipe a modern megalopolis and all of its inhabitants off the face of the world. Comparatively, a nuclear bomb can only kill off half of its inhabitants, and the city itself will still remain. - Sim_One, "Things I learned about the science of warfare through Civilization IV"

Jul 29, 2007, 05:28 PM	#11
Bursk Warlord Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 244	Willowmound, thanks a lot for the mod. I'm wondering if Boudica's "The Gods are on our side in our quest for vengeance." should have a capital G for Gods.

Jul 30, 2007, 01:13 AM	#12
Willowmound Wordbug Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Afloat Posts: 2,219	Yes, I decided to capitalise God and Gods in all instances. It's what in the publishing industry is called a 'house style' decision. Neither is right or wrong. It's a matter of preference, and to some extent context. Thanks for your input! And thanks to everyone who've left kind words so far. __________________ Still playing Civ IV? Try ActualQuotes -- leaders speak their own actual words

Jul 30, 2007, 02:16 AM	#13
NikNaks Deity Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Posts: 2,972	How did I miss this? Great job, Willowmound! Can I use this in my mod? __________________ My work: Units - Leaderheads - Expanded Natives and Scandinavia Expansion (WIP) for BAT The BtS Unaltered Gameplay (BUG) Project Forum - BUG 4.4, BAT 3.0.1 and BULL 1.2 Now Out!

Jul 30, 2007, 05:05 AM	#14
Willowmound Wordbug Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Afloat Posts: 2,219	Please do! __________________ Still playing Civ IV? Try ActualQuotes -- leaders speak their own actual words

Jul 30, 2007, 07:28 AM	#16
jpinard Martian Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Enceladus, Saturn Posts: 760	Awesome mod!

Aug 04, 2007, 03:57 AM	#17
Willowmound Wordbug Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Afloat Posts: 2,219	Whaddaya know -- we have a winner! We won the modding contest over at GameFlood. The Warlords version of this mod got "Best RTS mini-mod"! It's time to celebrate with a profusion of smilies: A big thank-you to all guys who voted in the initial round. This couldn't have happened without you... ~ __________________ Still playing Civ IV? Try ActualQuotes -- leaders speak their own actual words

Aug 04, 2007, 06:37 AM	#18
Chuggi Espada Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hueco Mundo Posts: 2,363	I liked this mod for Warlords, but I also remember the Vikings speeches which were so annoying that they drove me to hate it

Aug 04, 2007, 06:39 AM	#19
Willowmound Wordbug Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Afloat Posts: 2,219	Find me a better set of quotes, and I'll consider them. They're not my favourites either. __________________ Still playing Civ IV? Try ActualQuotes -- leaders speak their own actual words

Aug 04, 2007, 08:28 AM	#20
Chuggi Espada Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hueco Mundo Posts: 2,363	Maybe the default quotes just for Ragnor, or maybe real quotes from another viking leader which is easier to find. They're not great ideas but I really hate the poetry he's using atm.

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