Cities liberating themselves to previous owner.

Is this a bug?

City A was previously owned by Ghandi, but was taken by Cyrus.

Ghandi asked to be my vassal, so I accept and go to war with Cyrus.

I conquer City A, but it doesn't give me a choice to:
a.) install a new govoner
b.) raze the city
c.)liberate to the Indians

The city automatically goes to Ghandi and a message says "The city of CITY A (Cyrus) has been taken by the Indians!". But it was me who took the city, not Ghandi.



Something else I noticed is when you do actually get the options, and choose to liberate the city, you don't get any + points with the AI. But if you keep it, and then go to the diplomacy option to liberate the city, you get + points.

I think that capturing cities owned previously by your vassal automatically liberates them. I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature.... If you have a save (from just before you capture the city), then that would help.

Just like Paris in WWII

I vote for feature. (Maybe a better feature would be the vassal leaving if you didnt select liberate)

There is definitely a bug.

It can "return" a city to an ally even if the city was taken from you.

It can "return" a city to an ally even if the city was taken from you, and was previously given back to you when you previously recaptured it.

A city should only be given back to a vassal if the 3rd party took it from the vassal, and even then there should probably be an option to retain it.

Well it probably should be if you take a city that is 'culturally' a Vassal's (or a Master's)
1. Take city= diplo penalty (which will be erased/countered if you liberate the city back in the Domestic Advisor Screen)

2. Raze= Impossible

3. Liberate to Other = neutral

What bothers me about this is that it says the vassal Civilization took over the city, but in reality, I took it! And I think that counts as my vassal taking over it, so it's harder for me to capitulate the Civ I'm at war with.

Also, you don't get extra diplo points for "liberating" the city.

What bothers me about this is that it says the vassal Civilization took over the city

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Again Just like Paris in WWII

I have an example savegame of this if anyone wants to look at it. If you attack Old Sarai with the maceman on the hill south of it, then with one of the cataphracts from Pyongyang, it goes straight to Gengis without asking. And it says he took it! I am sure this is a bug. The weird thing is the city was first captured by my other vassal, Wang, before Shaka took it from him.

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You should have the option to keep it but at a diplomatic cost.(larger the more solid a cultural claim the third party has on it)

I have a somewhat simliar problem. I am playing on a standard size map on Prince right now and want to go for a Conquest vitory (modern age right now so it could get a little close ). So I have this war mongering Saladin permanently declaring war on me just to get all his cities captured that are close to me the first time he did it and just to get all his nice little troops sunk by my navy the second time he declared war. Right now I am gearing up for a mature Invasion of him and his Vassal on his main Continent.

Anyway, all this cities I captured from him later asked to be returned to either Saladin in the begining (which I refused of course...let those bastards suffer), but then they asked to be returned to Mehmet II (my Vassal), which I agreed on, because I had little interest in those cities and they would cost to much money.
Now to the strange part. Probably 90% of all my cities now asked to be returned to Mehmet II as well, which doesn't make any sense. Some of those cities are way older then his first colony on the continent and I have a much higher culture

Also the Apolostic Palace (or however you write that darn thing) now worked on me as well, just because I conquered one city from Saladin that had Hinduismn in it. Now Saladin (who is the leader of the Palace) deceided to post a resolution about returning one of his cities, which he of course won...I think this is way to over powered. If I didn't had the damn religion in this city I would not have any vote in the Palace and therefore I could not care less about what they want to do. I think the Palace should become absolet with Free Religion or something, because I am concentrating on building an Army and therefore I don't have time to build the UN.

To solve the Palace problem, just defy the vote it makes your hindu cities unhappy for 20 turns, but that isn't a problem if you don't have a lot of Hindu cities.

Well I already liberated the city to my Vassal Mehmet II when this happened, so I suppose me defying wouldn't make a big change, would it?
Besides I gave the game up, because I was going for a conquest victory, but Saladin was just way to strong and is right now conquering my cities. There is no other chance to win, since my culture isn't high enough for a cultural victory, nor could I spare enough hammers to go for a space victory. I mean the game was very good in the beggining. I had 2 mayor succesful wars against my neighbours. Only 4 Civs left and 3 of them are extremely week, so I could have conquered them, but Caesar had to go into war against me, though he was far behind in tech, I still had to use all my afforts to fight him down and therefore lost to much production. Saladin then conquered Mehmet on his main island so he became my Vasall (what was left of him on my continent) and the ol' Chinese dude became Saladins Vasall.
So all in all very sad, because it started out good and I though I could actually win my first prince game...guess I have to go back on noble...

I was annoyed by this same thing in my most recent game. I took Atlanta from Roosevelt early in the game, then made him my vassal rather than root our his last few island cities.

50 or so turns later, I was at war with Korea and foolishly had left the city poorly defended with a single archer, Wang Kong took the city with a water landing before my backup troops could get there. The next turn I took the city back, but it automatically went to Roosevelt, which it should not have - in my view- because it was my city most recently, not Roosevelt's.

I think this is really wrong, but not sure if it's intended or not. I can't recall if it was mentioned in the now-gone 3.13 change list.