paedophilia phobia. Court orders innocent man: Stay 30ft away everyone <18

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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- A self-described pedophile who says he is attracted to young girls but doesn't molest them was ordered Friday to stay at least 30 feet away from every person under age 18 in California.
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The temporary restraining order was issued against Jack McClellan by Superior Court Judge Melvin Sandvig, who also scheduled an August 24 hearing to discuss the matter further.

McClellan, who was not in court, told The Associated Press he didn't learn of Friday's hearing in time to attend.

"That was granted? Oh man, I didn't think it would be," McClellan said, adding he believed such an order would be an unconstitutional restriction of his rights.

The order was obtained by attorneys Anthony Zinnanti and Richard Patterson, both parents of young children. As soon as Sandvig issued it, Zinnanti raced to Los Angeles International Airport to serve it on McClellan, who had boarded a flight to Chicago for a TV appearance.

"He was on an airplane and we managed to get him off the airplane and jam him with it," Zinnanti said by phone from the airport. McClellan accepted it nonchalantly and got back on the plane, he said.

McClellan, who is unemployed and lives out of his car, has created a furor across Southern California since arriving several weeks ago from Washington state, where he had lived with his parents.

For years, McClellan maintained a Web site in Washington where he posted photos of children he had taken in public places. He also discussed how he liked to stake out parks, public libraries, fast-food restaurants and other areas where little girls, or "LGs," congregate.

"Most libraries have frequent programs and events for children, and sometimes you can get quite close to LGs there," he said in one posting.

McClellan said his intentions are misunderstood and insisted he would never molest a child.

"I guess there is some small chance maybe someday I might be able to get some sort of friendship with a girl and maybe then I might worry would I cross the line," he said. "But right now, no. There's no doubt in my mind I wouldn't."

Although he didn't post any recognizable photos of girls on a similar Web site he put up after arriving in Los Angeles, McClellan said, word about him quickly spread in Internet chat rooms maintained by mothers of young children.

At least one mother, Sandra Vasquez, said she believes he may have photographed her daughter at a Los Angeles street fair.

"I thought I saw a man take a picture of her as he passed," she said. "I have no idea if it was him, but we had been at the location that he described on his site just prior to leaving the fair."

McClellan's server took his Web site down a month ago, and he said Friday he isn't sure whether he'll try to put it back up.

"I'm listening to the criticism. I'm trying to see the other point of view. I'm trying to put myself in the parents' shoes," he said. "That was one of the reasons I really reformed the camera stuff."

McClellan, who says he lives on Supplemental Security Income and suffers from depression, maintains he launched the site as a form of therapy.

"I'm determined not to do anything illegal," he said, and police and public records confirm his assertion that he has never been arrested.

Since his arrival in Southern California, people have reported seeing McClellan, 45, in several communities where many children were present. He doesn't deny being there, acknowledging Friday that he visited the Orange County Fair in particular several times.

In Santa Monica, a mother saw McClellan in a restaurant and called police, who arrived in time to talk with him and ask if they could take his picture.

He agreed, saying he thought it would allow them to quickly clear him of any sex crimes in their city. But he was unhappy when they posted it on the Internet along with his driver's license photo and a warning to parents to call them if they see him.

"It's almost kind of like a sex offender flier on me," he said.

It also gave a clear view of McClellan's face, which he has shielded in several TV appearances with dark glasses and sometimes a floppy hat. Such appearances, in which McClellan appears articulate but disheveled, have confounded both parents and experts on pedophilia.

"It is very unusual. We've found that pedophiles and sexual predators normally operate in the dark and don't make that type of thing public," said Capt. Joe Gutierrez, who heads the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department's special victims unit.

Asked whether the whole thing could be a hoax, Gutierrez replied, "It's always a possibility."

"We do not have an active criminal investigation on Mr. McClellan at this time," Gutierrez said. He declined to say whether sheriff's officials have him under surveillance. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/03/pedophile.blogger.ap/


He may be a sick f***, but keep in mind this guy hasn't broken a single law. Not one single law! Zero, none. In fact he stated that he said would never break the law. Child rapist don't get restraining orders this harsh. This isn't a restraining orders, this is house arrest. Hell, I couldn't step in my apt hallway to leave with out breaking this order.

Its actions like this that will ensure that other mentally ill people wont seek help out of fear of being prosecuted unjustly. Great job on increasing the chance of harm coming to children. :goodjob:

Edit: Thanks for your help. I didn't know that about the topic title.
 
How the heck would this get enforced?

What if he's asleep in his car and someone with an occupied stroller walked past?
 
Orwellian thoughtcrimes:
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- A self-described pedophile who says he is attracted to young girls but doesn't molest them was ordered Friday to stay at least 30 feet away from every person under age 18 in California.
Well, if he was considered an active risk, then I suppose some precautionary measures are necessary. I'm not sure that's a realistic one, though.

Its actions like this that will ensure that other mentally ill people wont seek help out of fear of being prosecuted unjustly. Great job on increasing the chance of harm coming to children. :goodjob:
Indeed. Good Point. Maybe he should have placed in a psychiatric hospital for treatment and his name should have been withheld for anonymity reasons. (I'm rather certain that would be the case in many European countries)

The title of this thread said:
paedophilia phobia. Court orders innocent man: Stay 30ft away everyone >18
You got the ">" sign pointing in the wrong direction. That now reads "Stay 30ft from everyone over the age of 18".
 
Fixed. Thank you both.
 
If everyone's so concerned about it, the OP can change the thread title by either editing the opening post or double-clicking the space surrounding the title link on the OT forum.
 
You can change a thread title for any thread you've started by editing your first post and then selecting "Go Advanced". There will be a "Title" field that you can edit.

(This happened to me once with a thread in the Strategy&Tips forum that I had named "Pre-BC wars" rather than "Pre-AD" wars :))

[EDIT] Heh, The Yankee beat me to it :)
 
For years, McClellan maintained a Web site in Washington where he posted photos of children he had taken in public places. He also discussed how he liked to stake out parks, public libraries, fast-food restaurants and other areas where little girls, or "LGs," congregate.

"Most libraries have frequent programs and events for children, and sometimes you can get quite close to LGs there," he said in one posting.

Taking pictures of underage females without consent and then publishing them on the internet, is that legal?
 
Taking pictures of underage females without consent and then publishing them on the internet, is that legal?

Yes it is as long as they aren't nude or in any other way obscene. This guy was on FOX the other day he has real issues.
 
Taking pictures of underage females without consent and then publishing them on the internet, is that legal?
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Legal? Hell, it's a HUGH market.

The paparazzi wouldn't have much of a job if it wasn't.
 
Hmm. I disagree with the sentence (that is not reasonable; how are they going to enforce that?), but he probably needs help. >:|
 
Thank god little girls our protected from being looked at.
 
This should probably be changed, sooner rather than later.

This can only be change by a constitutional amendment i believe. The courts have rule that there is no "Reasonable expectation of privacy" in the open public view.

Maybe we should make it illegal to take picture of car accidents being that other mentally ill people get off on seeing blood on guts? No thank you, I'm not much for thoughtcrime laws. Nor is just being creepy a crime.

Maybe they can be used to show criminal intent of a real crime. But I can't see how one would have a legal leg to stand on of this being a crime in it's self.
 
underage girls can be attractive. They are just less attractive than full grown women. Paedophilia is a sick thing not due to attraction but due to the fragilness of a child soul. Although it is sick , Masturbation and thoughtcrimes and so on should not be prohibited.
 
thoughtcrimes and so on should not be prohibited.

Well, thought-crimes are prohibited insofar as someone who is deemed (by a psychiatrist or such) to be likely to start killing people will (in most countries) be held by the state in a psychiatric hospital.

Premeditation is also considered aggravating in murder cases.

So where do you draw the line? People who have murder on the mind are obviously commiting a valid thought-crime.
 
Oh dear. The thought police have arrived:cry:
 
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