Diplomacy

cubsfan6506 · Aug 20, 2007, 04:53 PM

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Niklas: Austria
Paul: Russia
Peter Grimes: Turkey
sirdanilot: Germany
donsig: Italy
dl: England
Aigburth: France

cubsfan6506 · Aug 20, 2007, 04:55 PM

Next order due. Friday at 6 P.M U.S central time. After the initial turn all orderwill be due in two days.

donsig · Aug 20, 2007, 07:12 PM

OK, a couple things:

First, I'm driving to North Carolina on Wednesday (8/22) so I won't be online much that day.

Second, pms or email are fine with me for negotiating. My email is metalratguy AT hotmail DOT com.

Third, I'm not sending anything out tonight - too tired.

Fourth, who is who? I think I'm Italy.

Fifth, thanks cubsfan for setting this up!

peter grimes · Aug 20, 2007, 08:18 PM

The Turkish Consulate is OPEN.

Please address all correspondence to:
Turkey, c/o
peter dot smith dot grimes at gmail.

The Turkik people send their warmest regards, and highest honors, to Cubsfan for all his work

Niklas · Aug 21, 2007, 04:29 AM

I am Austria. My email is niklas dot broberg at gmail dot com. I prefer PM though, but either is fine.

Aigburth · Aug 21, 2007, 05:58 AM

France checking in, contact details as follows: -

Email (preferred): aiggxh at gmail dot com

Alternatively PM via forum

sirdanilot · Aug 21, 2007, 08:12 AM

This is Germany. You can reach me through PM or through email, danilobliekthebest (at) hotmail (dot) com .

Oh and I prefer PM, but if you want to email me.

edit: DL and Paul, please post here asap

just to show everyone's here...

Paul#42 · Aug 21, 2007, 08:28 AM

Dis is Russia.

We'd like to let you know that we usually don't negotiate but for the sake of completeness we are willing to recieve mails at PaulN42 AT gmail.

edit: I also prefer communication by pm

sirdanilot · Aug 21, 2007, 08:33 AM

That was fast!

dl123654 · Aug 21, 2007, 02:28 PM

Internet is shakey at best but I will try to keep up.

PM are fine
Also you can try dl123654 at gmail

EDIT:Internet is good now, no more Internet cut outs.

donsig · Aug 22, 2007, 09:46 PM

I'm sorry I haven't gotten a note out to everyone yet. Had a 14 + hour drive from New York to North Carolina today so my negotiating skills are not top notch right now.

donsig · Aug 23, 2007, 09:38 AM

Had my

and have sent out short messages to all now. I think I used everyone's preferred method of communication. If not, (or if you didn't hear from me at all

) please let me know!

donsig I
King of the Italians

cubsfan6506 · Aug 23, 2007, 05:18 PM

24 hours till the turns are do.

donsig · Aug 23, 2007, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubsfan6506

24 hours till the turns are do.

Are we e-mailing or pmming them to you?

What about order format? Can we use abbreviations and if so, where can we get a list of accepted abbreviations?

peter grimes · Aug 24, 2007, 08:14 AM

Turkey's orders have been submitted via Diplomatic Email.

sirdanilot · Aug 24, 2007, 09:19 AM

Most of us only have 3 units right now so I don't think we need to use abbreviations for them.

Of course, things will change if someone will get a superpower of 15 units, then it'll be a bit tedious to fully write down everything...

AutomatedTeller · Aug 24, 2007, 10:06 AM

I haven't played Diplomacy in awhile.. but I think the abbreviations are the 1st 3 letters of the territory, excep for some places, and those are marked on your map above. So if you just refer to that map and use what's on it (StP for St Petersburg, for instance) and the first three letters if it is not (Bre for Brest, for instance), you guys should be fine.

peter grimes · Aug 24, 2007, 10:52 AM

I just wrote everything out - Army Portugal MOVE to Spain, for example. Typing isn't nearly as demanding as writing. Of course, if this game moves to text messaging, i'll use abbreviations

donsig · Aug 24, 2007, 12:04 PM

I think the order format will have to be such that the computer adjudicator can recognize them.

As for abbreviations, IIRC Nor and Tyr are ambiguous so stay away from those. Also, don't forget to specify the coast for St. Pete, Spain and Bulgaria where applicable.

Niklas · Aug 24, 2007, 12:23 PM

IMO computer adjudication is rather silly for a game as simple as this. Sure it simplifies the mod's life, but if something isn't recognized by the software then the mod should step in and interpret it.

The only thing that shouldn't be interpreted is things that are wrong or ambiguous. For instance saying

F mao -> spa

is an error since Spain has two coasts. Similarly saying either of

F mao Supports F spa
F mao Supports F por

when F spa is moving to an unoccupied por is wrong. The correct way should be

F mao Supports F spa -> por

I'm saying this because situations like these have come up in previous games I've played, so it's not obvious to all. But if you say something like

Move the Spain fleet to Portugal

it should be ok, even if the software wouldn't be able to parse it.

Aug 20, 2007, 04:53 PM	#1
cubsfan6506 Got u Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Awesome Land Posts: 6,244	Diplomacy Current Save Here:http://forums.civfanatics.com/upload...8/compress.rar My email is: Cubsfan6506@yahoo.com Map Niklas: Austria Paul: Russia Peter Grimes: Turkey sirdanilot: Germany donsig: Italy dl: England Aigburth: France __________________ ''FriendlyFire, I must say that your interest in American current events is impressive. It's impressive because of the fact that you don't live here, and as far as I know, you're not an American citizen. ''Pleghmak ''When you are a mouse stuck living with an elephant ,you learn to watch its every movement. ''Oda nobanuga Last edited by cubsfan6506; Aug 20, 2007 at 08:14 PM.

Aug 20, 2007, 04:55 PM	#2
cubsfan6506 Got u Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Awesome Land Posts: 6,244	Next order due. Friday at 6 P.M U.S central time. After the initial turn all orderwill be due in two days. __________________ ''FriendlyFire, I must say that your interest in American current events is impressive. It's impressive because of the fact that you don't live here, and as far as I know, you're not an American citizen. ''Pleghmak ''When you are a mouse stuck living with an elephant ,you learn to watch its every movement. ''Oda nobanuga

Aug 20, 2007, 07:12 PM	#3
donsig Low level intermediary Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 12,873	OK, a couple things: First, I'm driving to North Carolina on Wednesday (8/22) so I won't be online much that day. Second, pms or email are fine with me for negotiating. My email is metalratguy AT hotmail DOT com. Third, I'm not sending anything out tonight - too tired. Fourth, who is who? I think I'm Italy. Fifth, thanks cubsfan for setting this up! __________________ Still playing after all these years.

Aug 21, 2007, 04:29 AM	#5
Niklas Fully Functional Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 57°47'55"N 12°09'16"E Posts: 9,708	I am Austria. My email is niklas dot broberg at gmail dot com. I prefer PM though, but either is fine. __________________ G \|- \x.e : t1 -> t <= G[x->t1] \|- e : t ..... Economic: -5.88, Social: -5.90 (081218) Team Smurkz: BtS SGOTM 08 Wonderful Suryavarman MTDGs: Civ3 MTDG II - The Council \| CIV MTDG II - Team Cavaleiros Current NESes: Pre-ChaNES - Peoples' Republic of China Undefeated Board Game Champion :\|: DipNES2, Council Diplomacy, BlaDipNES, DipNES3, RiskNESII, RiskNESIII, DipEuropeII, DipWorldIII: Victory!

Aug 21, 2007, 08:12 AM	#7
sirdanilot BBcode owns in sigs! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Terneuzen, The Netherlands Posts: 956 Images: 1	This is Germany. You can reach me through PM or through email, danilobliekthebest (at) hotmail (dot) com . Oh and I prefer PM, but if you want to email me. edit: DL and Paul, please post here asap just to show everyone's here... __________________ Fiftychat Moments [22:28] <Ansar> Erik - You disapprove of masturbation? :O [22:28] <Erik> It's getting huuuge. Member of The Council in Civ3 MTDG

Aug 20, 2007, 08:18 PM	#4
peter grimes ... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Queens, New York Posts: 9,975	The Turkish Consulate is OPEN. Please address all correspondence to: Turkey, c/o peter dot smith dot grimes at gmail. The Turkik people send their warmest regards, and highest honors, to Cubsfan for all his work __________________ "When faced with stupidity, I dont find 'critical thinking' useful." chiteng

Aug 21, 2007, 05:58 AM	#6
Aigburth Sea Dog Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London Posts: 727	France checking in, contact details as follows: - Email (preferred): aiggxh at gmail dot com Alternatively PM via forum

Aug 21, 2007, 08:28 AM	#8
Paul#42 flyball chaser Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hamburg Posts: 4,458	Dis is Russia. We'd like to let you know that we usually don't negotiate but for the sake of completeness we are willing to recieve mails at PaulN42 AT gmail. edit: I also prefer communication by pm __________________ It's only a game if you win but if you lose it's a stinking waste of time. [Al Bundy] If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to safe the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. [unknown bachelor centerfielder] Last edited by Paul#42; Dec 30, 2007 at 02:10 PM.

Aug 21, 2007, 08:33 AM	#9
sirdanilot BBcode owns in sigs! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Terneuzen, The Netherlands Posts: 956 Images: 1	That was fast! __________________ Fiftychat Moments [22:28] <Ansar> Erik - You disapprove of masturbation? :O [22:28] <Erik> It's getting huuuge. Member of The Council in Civ3 MTDG

Aug 21, 2007, 02:28 PM	#10
dl123654 King Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 965	Internet is shakey at best but I will try to keep up. PM are fine Also you can try dl123654 at gmail EDIT:Internet is good now, no more Internet cut outs. Last edited by dl123654; Aug 22, 2007 at 01:18 AM. Reason: Internet Back

Aug 22, 2007, 09:46 PM	#11
donsig Low level intermediary Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 12,873	From the King of the Italians I'm sorry I haven't gotten a note out to everyone yet. Had a 14 + hour drive from New York to North Carolina today so my negotiating skills are not top notch right now. __________________ Still playing after all these years.

Aug 23, 2007, 09:38 AM	#12
donsig Low level intermediary Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 12,873	From the King of the Italians Had my and have sent out short messages to all now. I think I used everyone's preferred method of communication. If not, (or if you didn't hear from me at all ) please let me know! donsig I King of the Italians __________________ Still playing after all these years.

Aug 23, 2007, 05:18 PM	#13
cubsfan6506 Got u Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Awesome Land Posts: 6,244	24 hours till the turns are do. __________________ ''FriendlyFire, I must say that your interest in American current events is impressive. It's impressive because of the fact that you don't live here, and as far as I know, you're not an American citizen. ''Pleghmak ''When you are a mouse stuck living with an elephant ,you learn to watch its every movement. ''Oda nobanuga

Aug 24, 2007, 08:14 AM	#15
peter grimes ... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Queens, New York Posts: 9,975	Turkey's orders have been submitted via Diplomatic Email. __________________ "When faced with stupidity, I dont find 'critical thinking' useful." chiteng

Aug 24, 2007, 09:19 AM	#16
sirdanilot BBcode owns in sigs! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Terneuzen, The Netherlands Posts: 956 Images: 1	Most of us only have 3 units right now so I don't think we need to use abbreviations for them. Of course, things will change if someone will get a superpower of 15 units, then it'll be a bit tedious to fully write down everything... __________________ Fiftychat Moments [22:28] <Ansar> Erik - You disapprove of masturbation? :O [22:28] <Erik> It's getting huuuge. Member of The Council in Civ3 MTDG

Aug 24, 2007, 10:06 AM	#17
AutomatedTeller Frequent poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medford, MA Posts: 7,477	I haven't played Diplomacy in awhile.. but I think the abbreviations are the 1st 3 letters of the territory, excep for some places, and those are marked on your map above. So if you just refer to that map and use what's on it (StP for St Petersburg, for instance) and the first three letters if it is not (Bre for Brest, for instance), you guys should be fine. __________________

Aug 24, 2007, 10:52 AM	#18
peter grimes ... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Queens, New York Posts: 9,975	I just wrote everything out - Army Portugal MOVE to Spain, for example. Typing isn't nearly as demanding as writing. Of course, if this game moves to text messaging, i'll use abbreviations __________________ "When faced with stupidity, I dont find 'critical thinking' useful." chiteng

Aug 24, 2007, 12:04 PM	#19
donsig Low level intermediary Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 12,873	I think the order format will have to be such that the computer adjudicator can recognize them. As for abbreviations, IIRC Nor and Tyr are ambiguous so stay away from those. Also, don't forget to specify the coast for St. Pete, Spain and Bulgaria where applicable. __________________ Still playing after all these years.

Aug 24, 2007, 12:23 PM	#20
Niklas Fully Functional Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 57°47'55"N 12°09'16"E Posts: 9,708	IMO computer adjudication is rather silly for a game as simple as this. Sure it simplifies the mod's life, but if something isn't recognized by the software then the mod should step in and interpret it. The only thing that shouldn't be interpreted is things that are wrong or ambiguous. For instance saying F mao -> spa is an error since Spain has two coasts. Similarly saying either of F mao Supports F spa F mao Supports F por when F spa is moving to an unoccupied por is wrong. The correct way should be F mao Supports F spa -> por I'm saying this because situations like these have come up in previous games I've played, so it's not obvious to all. But if you say something like Move the Spain fleet to Portugal it should be ok, even if the software wouldn't be able to parse it. __________________ G \|- \x.e : t1 -> t <= G[x->t1] \|- e : t ..... Economic: -5.88, Social: -5.90 (081218) Team Smurkz: BtS SGOTM 08 Wonderful Suryavarman MTDGs: Civ3 MTDG II - The Council \| CIV MTDG II - Team Cavaleiros Current NESes: Pre-ChaNES - Peoples' Republic of China Undefeated Board Game Champion :\|: DipNES2, Council Diplomacy, BlaDipNES, DipNES3, RiskNESII, RiskNESIII, DipEuropeII, DipWorldIII: Victory!

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