Osamas new video

Amin001 · Sep 7, 2007

here is part of the video
http://www.reuters.com/news/video/videoStory?videoId=65856&newsChannel=newsOne

here is the transcript
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907_bin_laden_transcript.pdf

"This war was entirely unnecessary, as testified to by your own reports. And among the most capable of those from your own side who speak to you on this topic and on manufacturing of public opinion is Noam Chomsky, who spoke sober words of advice prior to to the war..." rest is in transcript

Looks like he is a fan of Noam Chomsky hahaha.

What bothers me is why is his beard black again? Was it not grey before? How and why is he dying his hair while jumping from cave to cave? Is it not against his sect of Islam, which is a very extreme sunni version, not to dye ones hair except with henna?

I would be greatful if someone cleared these questions up, please forgive my ignorance.

Adamb0mb · Sep 7, 2007

What happened to his impending kidney failure? It actually looks like this guy is getting younger as the years pass.

nivi · Sep 7, 2007

It is allowed to dye his hair if it is to inspire fear in the infidels his fighting.

bigdog5994 · Sep 7, 2007

i heard a theory that he shaved his beard off and thats a fake beard

Amin001 · Sep 7, 2007

"It is allowed to dye his hair if it is to inspire fear in the infidels his fighting."

Do you have a source that backs that statement up?

Not trying to be rude but that sounds a little bit strange to me.

skadistic · Sep 7, 2007

You know he said in there some where if all convert to islam and give up democracy he wont kill any more of us.

nivi · Sep 7, 2007

http://www.irf.net/irf/dtp/dawah_tech/ques47.htm

"Nevertheless, the use of black dye is specifically permitted during time of war, with the possibility of demoralizing the enemy when they see all Muslim soldiers looking ‘young’."

skadistic · Sep 7, 2007

From Nivi's link

During the days of the Prophet (pbuh), the Jews and the Christians used to refrain from dyeing greying hair because they considered such adornment as contrary to piety and devotion, and not befitting rabbis, priests and ascetics. The Prophet (pbuh) forbade Muslims from imitating them (the Jews and the Christians), in order that Muslims might develop their own distinctive and independent characteristics.

Thats just sad and petty.

Atlas14 · Sep 7, 2007

nivi said:
http://www.irf.net/irf/dtp/dawah_tech/ques47.htm

"Nevertheless, the use of black dye is specifically permitted during time of war, with the possibility of demoralizing the enemy when they see all Muslim soldiers looking young."

Well its tough to win an Oscar without a sexy beard.

Amin001 · Sep 7, 2007

Thank you for the source Nivi.

"Moreover, dyeing the hair when there is no grey hair, though not forbidden, is not regarded as following the Prophet’s example, since it does not serve the same shar’i interests as achieved by dyeing grey hair. "

I dont know... why didnt he dye his hair earlier, it is very grey in the other videos, his beard also looks shorter.

Its just the image of Osama using hair dye while escaping our military forces in caves seems crazy.

El_Machinae · Sep 7, 2007

At least we realise how irrelevent the man is now ...

Quiet Sound · Sep 7, 2007

Amin001 said:
How and why is he dying his hair while jumping from cave to cave?

Cave? Have you forgotten about their network of secret underground bases/cities?

If these people can keep such facilities hidden all this time surely they can get ahold of a little "Just For Men" hair dye.

JollyRoger · Sep 7, 2007

President Bush said Saturday [in Austrailia] that Osama bin Laden's first video appearance in three years is a reminder of "the dangerous world in which we live."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070908/ap_on_re_au_an/bush_bin_laden

Actually, President Bush, it's more of a reminder than you have failed to get him yet.

Mango · Sep 7, 2007

JollyRoger said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070908/ap_on_re_au_an/bush_bin_laden

Actually, President Bush, it's more of a reminder than you have failed to get him yet.

Failed to get him yet? Is that you George?

ParadigmShifter · Sep 7, 2007

If they catch Bin Laden they will have to produce a new bogeyman mascot for the war on terror. It's like after communism was pretty much defeated they took ages to come up with terrorists as the new threat.

The Yankee · Sep 7, 2007

What a prima donna he is. It's almost as if he's the Elvis for terrorists.

Chandrasekhar · Sep 7, 2007

Yeah, I'd say that having that a younger-looking beard is worth at least a dozen dead infidels.

The Yankee · Sep 7, 2007

"This quarter, sales for Just For Men rose through the roof as they have developed the new, unexplored terrorist market. Details at 6."

Yeah, I can see it. If it weren't about appearances and playing the media, I bet bin Laden's house would have fallen like a deck of cards. Not that we wouldn't have terrorists or even an al-Qaeda, but it's very much a brand with a pretty good marketing team behind it.

amadeus · Sep 7, 2007

What I'd like to know is how he gets these video tapes out. We should find whoever disseminates these materials and, quite simply, execute them if they refuse to tell us where bin Laden is.

The Yankee · Sep 7, 2007

I bet they don't even know where it is. Wouldn't take too much foresight to recruit some random jihadist, throw a bag over his face, give him the tape, and dump him across the border.

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