CivSuper III: This time Beyond the Sword

PW90 · Sep 23, 2007

A few month ago I released the Warlordsversion of this mod I'm updating yet to Beyond the Sword. It will be the 3rd Version of this mod (The first one for vanilla was only released in german forums).
This is and will be also in this Version a mod made for my preferences.

I will released the first version, when all things listed below are finished (it could be a long time, caused by school and other things)

If you have any suggestion for a new civ, worldwonder etc., don't be shy and say it.

Even if you have something to critize, say it.

So, here are the planned Features:

- Varietas Delicatat by avain (I will expand this to the new civs also, unique cavalry or something also included in the new ones)

- New Worldwonders (23):

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- New Resources (11):

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- New Units (5):

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- 2nd Units for existing Civs:

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- 28 New Leaders for existing Civs (all in 3D):

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- New Civs (12):

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Every new civilization get's it's own unique colour.

PW90 · Sep 23, 2007

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Vrenir · Sep 23, 2007

I'd suggest ar-Rahman for Spain, just because that would make them more distinct as a nation with mixed Christian and Islamic heritage.

I really am excited to see some of these leaders as you develop them.

snipperrabbit!! · Sep 24, 2007

You listed Brandenburg Gate ~~twice~~ three times under world wonders : What's the deal ?

PW90 · Sep 25, 2007

snipperrabbit!! said:
You listed Brandenburg Gate ~~twice~~ three times under world wonders : What's the deal ?

Thanks for information.

I have fixed that.

IamJohn · Sep 28, 2007

What's the point of have not one but three total native american tribes? Isn't just having the already-in-the-game native americans good enough?

Edit: How does trafalger square qualify as a wonder? I've been there, it's cool, but it isn't a world wonder...

skodkim · Sep 28, 2007

Sound really exiting - new wonders and second UU's would really amp up the game.

Can't wait!! I guess there will also be some work to do on it after the release of 3.13

\Skodkim

skodkim · Sep 30, 2007

Actually I do have one thing that bugs me: Many of the second UU's are pretty close to the original ones, both in that they are pretty similar but also in time scale. Examples:

Greece will have Hyapsist - a Spearman, which they already have
Egypt Will have an Egypt Archer, which will be available at the same time as their chariots
The Aztecs will have a spearman which will be available at the same time as their swordsman.

I realize that that Aztecs having a modern UU would not be historically correct but it would be more interesting if every civ had a new UU to strive for, e.g. strive for a tech that allows this unit.

Just a thought

\Skodkim

Nelgirith · Sep 30, 2007

IamJohn said:
Edit: How does trafalger square qualify as a wonder? I've been there, it's cool, but it isn't a world wonder...

Well, let me think ... Why is 3G Dam a wonder ? Broadway ? Hollywood ? Rock'n'Roll ????? Notre-Dame isn't a wonder either ... it's just a cathedral. What about the Pentagon ? :confused:

Imo, Trafalgar Square makes just an as good wonder as the few I just named.
I can't believe that I - a french - am actually defending Trafalgar Square :lol:

PW90 · Sep 30, 2007

Nelgirith said:
Well, let me think ... Why is 3G Dam a wonder ? Broadway ? Hollywood ? Rock'n'Roll ????? Notre-Dame isn't a wonder either ... it's just a cathedral. What about the Pentagon ?

Imo, Trafalgar Square makes just an as good wonder as the few I just named.
I can't believe that I - a french - am actually defending Trafalgar Square

This is also my opinion. :goodjob:

skodkim said:
Actually I do have one thing that bugs me: Many of the second UU's are pretty close to the original ones, both in that they are pretty similar but also in time scale. Examples:

Greece will have Hyapsist - a Spearman, which they already have
Egypt Will have an Egypt Archer, which will be available at the same time as their chariots
The Aztecs will have a spearman which will be available at the same time as their swordsman.

I realize that that Aztecs having a modern UU would not be historically correct but it would be more interesting if every civ had a new UU to strive for, e.g. strive for a tech that allows this unit.

Just a thought

\Skodkim

But every civ had his age, in which it was very powerful. I think that the UU's should symbolize this "golden age" of the civilization. A few ones were more than onetime very powerful, but most of the civs not.
For the Greece-example: In BtS the other one, I think Hoplit, replaces the axeman. So this problem is solved.

skodkim · Oct 4, 2007

PW90 said:
But every civ had his age, in which it was very powerful. I think that the UU's should symbolize this "golden age" of the civilization. A few ones were more than onetime very powerful, but most of the civs not.
For the Greece-example: In BtS the other one, I think Hoplit, replaces the axeman. So this problem is solved.

I see your point. Looking forward to it!

\Skodkim

Sword_Of_Geddon · Oct 6, 2007

This looks to be a great mod!

Sword_Of_Geddon · Oct 7, 2007

Any updates on this project?

IamJohn · Oct 7, 2007

Nelgirith said:
Well, let me think ... Why is 3G Dam a wonder ? Broadway ? Hollywood ? Rock'n'Roll ????? Notre-Dame isn't a wonder either ... it's just a cathedral. What about the Pentagon ?

Because they took time and were something that really was different and hard to make for what ever reason, Trafalgar square wasn't, unless you're commemorating the actual battle of Trafalgar, it isn't anything special or different from any other square commemorating battles during world war I or II, for me I don't see how it qualifies as a world Wonder.

Sword_Of_Geddon · Oct 7, 2007

Off topic guys. Wheres our host? What progress has there been on this project?

ewu.7waker · Dec 23, 2007

nice ideas for new civs, especially benin...(i wonder where u got the info from

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Lachlan · Dec 23, 2007

I propose urugayan-brasilian "Itaïpu" the biggest dam in the world...
I suggest "Serre-Ponçon" the biggest metropolitan french dam...

PW90 · Dec 23, 2007

@ ewu.7waker
Yes, i got the idea from you, as you mentioned benin as a new civ in some thread. I think it's a good choice, because it is a civ outside of europe.

Although I think adding Serbia as the absolutely last european civ is not bad, because the southslaves (slovenians, croatians, serbians, bulgars etc.) need to be represented in some way. I need some suggestions for the serbian civ

I'm sorry to say, that their is only little progress on this project, because I have many other real life things to do (accountingtest, driving license, girlfriend, some presentations about senseless things) :sad:

frekk · Dec 28, 2007

PW90 said:
But every civ had his age, in which it was very powerful. I think that the UU's should symbolize this "golden age" of the civilization.

If so, then the UU for the Iroqouis should not be a longbowman, but a musketeer.

CivSuper III: This time Beyond the Sword

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