Noble's Club 1- Elizabeth

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Well I'm not doing very well here, I think in my excitement I just rushed through the game to the first checkpoint.

I think I met all the civs that are on this continent, although there could be one more, havn't done a great job of exploring so far. Here's a pic of the world so far.



I normally play a Specialist Economy, but was gonna really try a CE with lizzie, then stone appears just below the BFC, all of a sudden I've switched back to my usual routine, knocked out a couple of settlers, then built the oracle, then the pyramids, switched to caste/rep. but I've really not done myself any favours. I could have settled several cities peacefully by now. however my science jumped from +14 beakers to +46, and should start to increase quickly now.

Heres a pic of my cities



In my sudden rush to build wonders I didn't do a great job with city placement, york is going to be a poor city plus I'm very light on military and have blocked Monty in, hmmm... great plan.

I think I need to,

a)found more cities asap, luckily there seems to be a fair amount of space on this map,

b)biuld some troops in case monty tries to bust out

c)possibly take out monty once I have the copper hooked up

In short my mistake was rushing into this game instead of taking my time and thinking about what I was doing.

Okay so to summerize my last round, I nailed a couple of graet early wonders, founded conf, but severly neglected my military and expansion. The next set of turns is about building some troops, getting my SE going and expansion while I try and get my self into a position to go for this culture victory.

750 BC

okay teching alphabet to see what the tech situation is. Mainly building archers at the moment as I'm getting worried monty will attack. We pop our first gp, a great engineer... cool.

will save him to hurry a wonder

Monty is starting to get twitchy with me, he makes a demand! I cave in for now.



625 BC

Aplhabet is in and here is our techs. we shoot for aesthetics next.



Could be worse with my stunted start. I make a trade straight away to monty to I/Working, its one sided in his favour but I give him useless religious techs and writing and hope this might keep him happy with us.

More building, military...

380 BC

Aesthetics is in, next up is Lit, which will take 7 turns

our next GP also pops up, a great scientist, I build an acadamy in nottingham as its producing most of our research, 32 beakers.

I'm now just chopping loads of forrests to get archers/chariots/workers/settlers out and settle a city to the north in the jungle.

305 BC

Lit is in (yay!) this is such a great tech, maths is next (6 turns), as I am making a beeline to music for the sistine chapel and cathedrals. I take my reserved G.engineer and he builds the Great Library in Nottingham.

We also take this barb city and pick up a free worker too.



Also Saladin (founder of hinduism) spreads his religions to my land, nice chap.

Okay so I'm only at 245 BC but I'm going to stop here as I think I have committed to my victory and have a plan.

Well tech is fairly solid, at 245 BC were getting +91 beakers @ 70% science theres 108 gold in the treasury and were only running a -3 deficit. We still are low in military although I'm not to far behind my imediate threat monty. I still need more workers as my cities need improvements and I could still do with a couple more cities.

My plan is now set. I will tech music and drama then trade for some of the techs I've missed. I'm going to shoot for philosophy next to get taoism as my third religion. At this point I'm going to start switching from running scientists to running artists in some cities whilst building temples and then cathedrals in my cities. The Artists will still produce some beakers under rep, so I will beeline thru to philosophy pick up nationalism then switch of research. I hope to have a few scientists reserved to help me through to philosophy.

And some where between all that I need to keep monty at bay.

Heres the tech screen, looking better.



And heres the world as I know it

Here's my update for checkpoint 3, I'm including screenshots of what happened during this round but their are some pics of some city screens, tech, powergraphs and such at the end of this summary for those who are interested.

Okay at my last checkpoint I had committed to going for a culture win, I got my plan laid out and I spent this round putting it in to place.


tech order started with, > mathmatics > construction > music > philosophy


As soon as music was in I stockpiled my Great artist for the end game, started on the sistine chapel and bulbed philosophy with a great scientist founding taoism.

next techs were, > calander > civilservice > feudalism > paper(bulbed again)

During this time I was basically focusing on keeping monty happy, building longbows, speading as many religions to my cities as I can and founded a sixth city. I won't build any more cities unless I get in to a war with monty then I may take his.

Monty keeps making demands on me but I keep giving in to him, he's seems pretty happy with the situation and has declared war on just about everyone else bar me! luckily buddism (montys state religion) spread to me and I have switched to it to keep him and sitting build on side.

in 640 AD sistine chapel was built, geez that took a while without marble,


next up on techs were, > education (part bulbed) > Currency > Libralism, picked nationalism.


I kind of handily got a great engineer out of the blue just in time to build the taj mahal in a turn.

at this point I'm going to start switching scientists off in my prospective 3 legendary cities and putting on artists instead, they will still give me some beakers through representation, and I will just slowley tech toward rifling, I have a tech lead right now so I should still get there before the AI.

As far as the plan for a culture victory goes, all my cities now have the three key religions I wanted, cofu, hindu, taoism and I'm partway through building enough temples to get two cathedrals in each legendary city. I also have judasim and buddism in one or two cities so I could squeeze out a few more cathedrals if I wanted. I still have been to war yet this game and hope to keep it that way.

I have skipped quite a few techs this game, but I guess I won't need too many of them and I plan to trade a few of my techs around in the next few turns to fill in some of the important gaps, (still havn't got Metal Casting!!)

Here is the tech situation,




One of my big problems is I have really neglected infrastructure, most of my cities are currently well under the happy cap but on the limit with the health cap so I need to improve my health bonuses to get my cities up to speed. Some cities still don't have graneries yet!



Here is the map of my cities and a couple of city screens,

Woo-Hoo Achieved cultural victory in 1888 AD.



With hindsight it could have been earlier if I had played better at the start, had three more cities to build more temples and unlock more cathedrals. In the end I had access to six religions so I could have built more cathedrals. The main thing that helped me in this game was not warring, in fact I wasn't involved in a war the entire game, unlike other people out there I actually buddied up to monty and sitting bull, they were both buddist so I converted and managed to play the game in peace.

I should have also picked my earlier wonders a little better as towards the end even with 10 artist specialist's running I was popping the odd scientist which was annoying.

here are the three legendary cities a turn before victory, I had saved three great artists at this point so could use them to make all three cities go legendary by the next turn.







Final score, not amazing, but I think cultural victories tend to have lower scores.



And a couple of the graphs, first culture, no suprises here.



and power, managed to keep myself in the middle most of the game



and on a side note, here's a pick of poor old germany under pressure from the culture of one of my legendary cities.

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INitial Thoughts:

Lizzy - Financial and Philosophical (so good for CE or SE)
Probably gonna cottage the crap outta everything
Settle in place - Jeses after I did that 5 resources, cow, 2 fishies, rice, and Incense.

Build Order - Work Boat, Work Boat, Worker
Teching -BW (gonna chop a lot I think), Ag, Sailing (TGL when I get out a worker or two), Wheel, Pottery


What to do with London - Well good food, but I dont like it being a GP Farm I dont think. So I am thinking production seeing all the plains and hills.
I worked a forested hill initially to get he workboat out) Then will switch to the fishies as grow to happy cap

Exploring the region - STONE!!!
Met everyone;s favorite nut job. Monty. Change of plans to axe rush if I get some copper
Copper is close enough, need a 2nd city to hook it up.


NExt techs - masonry,
NExt Builds - Lighthouse, Settler, TGL (chopped), Maoi

Monty wants clams.. Fine for now. no need to piss him off yet
no oracle run, wanna kill monty

Teching MOnarchy.
TGL, built in London 1400bc
Barracks then Maoi in London.
Now Axes (a lot of them) for Monty

I managed the ORacle in York, chose Metal Casting
Now onto more axes and MOnty

Took first two Aztec Cities.
Killed MOnty's Capital in 200ADish..he still has oe island city. I take peace for now

Another note is that I never opened borders at first.

Teched to Calendar.
With the two GMs, I bulbed. Bad idea I think, but we will see
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Mids build by someone in 880ad. ******ed
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In 890AD got the damn 7 trieme quest. Have to do it before renisance, and that aint gonna happen
Well it did happen...got +2gold per harbor.. Awesome

900ad. Slider at 50% now, running pure CE.
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GP popped finally in York. Got the confucian Holy Site. SB and I are both Confuc so nice influx of money and slider moved up one to 60%

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Way too late, but building Colossus in London - 1200 ad
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Liberalism 1255 - took the standard nationalism

Now beeline Rifling with a first stop at printing press.
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NExt target is Germany....he is not friendly, but kinda a part of my triangle. May go for ariabia. not sure yet
Well Feddy is Cautious..1450 redcoats.. he just DoW...dead man walking

Took a while..but he is done. Aat this point, I have tanks and rest barely have rifiling. Over.

Well it turns out the start position was tricksy and the surrounding land is really annoying!
This section I teched; Agr>AH>BW>Wheel>Pot>Hunting>Archery>Myst>Masonary>Writing>Poly>started Mono.
First hut I popped gave me... barbs! Second one gave me a warrior.
Ok picture time!
I meet Sitting Bull to my east


Then, happy day, I meet Monty the muppet


Then in quick succession De Gaulle...


...Frederick...


...and Saladin


I found York to claim the horses and try to cut Monty off



Nottingham and Hastings are founded (forgot the screen of Nottingham)


Again these cities were founded in an attempt to capture some decent land and stop the AI boxing us in to much.

Glance


Unsuprisingly Sal and Monty the founders of the two religions present don't like each other much

Nearby resourses



Turns out that De Gaulle is miles away to the north east. Him and SB have loads of really lush land to expand into - unless theres an AI thats on this landmass thats keeping quite - whilst the rest of us are squashed into some rubbish land.

Hopefully I'll found Judaism. When thats in I'm thinking of Beelining Music for the free Great Artist and theaters etc. I also want Iron Working, Priesthood and CoL.

I think my second Culture city is going to be Nottingham.

Next segment I also want to take out Monty before he does something I regret, build a load of workers and try to get to 9 cities. Maybe I'll even use Montys capital as my 3rd city (depending on what its like of course). I hope when Iron comes in that its not in a rubbish low food area like the bronze.
If no easy iron then maybe I need Construction and HBR for Jumbos. So much to do!

Ok so How am I doing? I feel like I haven't done much for culture, because of the metal and Monty situation.

Ok so this section I teched; Mono>Math>Priest(trade)>CoL>started HBR>Med(trade)>Alpha(trade)>Sailing(trade). Lots of tech trading, Maybe to much?
Also I tried for the mids but industrious De Gaulle beat me by 8 turns.

Hastings faced a constant stream of barbs this round - about 6/7 warriors and 2/3 archers, but the defender saw them off and is now CG3.

First of all some extortion and bullying!






I agree to all there demands as the last thing I want is to find two AIs declaring on me at this stage.

Montys Land - his capital could be nice Culture city...


Trade


More extortion! I give in.



More trade


We tell Monty to stuff it as everyone just converted to Judaism


Our land. Notice Monty settled the Copper? Hes got Iron too. Bum.




Glance


Monty is annoyed with us but isn't "hands full". Teching HBR then Construction as he really has to go - Jumbos and cats here we come! Once hes gone I will go to 9 cites and consolidate as we should have 3 religions.

I started to build court houses - will whip when I can - and temples. When I hit 6 cities I'm going to go to Cast. At the mo I'm Slavery and OR.

Conf founded in Hastings so I guess thats my 2nd legendry city.

Popped a great scientist to build a acadamy in London. Will try for 1one or two more and maybe a preist or two to build the shrines.

Think thats all. So then? What to do? After construction finally head for music and on to Lib?

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So i settled in place. Rice, Cow, 2 Clams and Incense in the BFC:


i wasn't too patient to wait till tomorrow so i started.
first build - workboat as starting techs are fishing & mining. Will research first bronze working as my first worker won't be built for the next hundreds of years... warrior is gonna scout around.

after scouting some eastern land, found stone, wine and pigs resources... and mr. tough guy Monty showed up from the south with the scout:


3575BC - Hinduism founded in the distant land.
3500BC - Buddhism founded in the distant land.

Workboat is up and i started building worker.. 11 turns for agriculture, 18 for worker... i'll probably whip out worker so it can start improve rice earlier an than build another warrior to scout around. god damn i got used to hunting as a start tech, but mining is cool too. heres the area @ 3450BC:


Year 3300BC: just met Sitting Bull on my West. He seem to have nice land around him:


Turn 32: Whiped worker & agriculture researched. Begin building another warrior to scout Monty. I'm going for pottery now... figured i need cottages and granaries soon as my land will be food poor especially my second city near copper & stone.

Turn 41: Wheel Researched, Pottery next... Warrior found 98 gold in a hut and another warrior built.. beginning building first settler to claim copper.

(god damn civil service)

turn 45: De Gaulle showed up near SB
turn 49: Saladin showed in the south
turn 63: researched AH and started improve Cows with the worker... Mysticism next... and heres my area at 2425BC:


and the whole view:


2025BC:


1950BC:


1900BC: first barbarian. i thought there will be no trouble with them on this map so didn't build great wall


1100BC:

picked CoL and:

sent first missionary to Sitting Bull... later Monty converted too.. niiice. but Monty will fall down soon in my plans.

950BC:


925BC Monty asks one of my clams as a tribute. i give it. ill cancel the deal after 10 turns:


395BC another great prophet... damn i rushed and clicked on the light bulb icon and discovered polytheism. damn. i could have 2 religions by now. hope another GP will show up soon.

... i started building libraries and putting scientists in cities. only london for now.

and i found where De Gaulle is:


Thats the end of Checkpoint 1 i guess.

275BC: freakin' barbs: 4 spearmen attacks near London but i managed to defend with 3 axes!

230BC: finished researching Alphabet... going for currency..? i'm not keen on making right research decisions, guess few +coins will be nice for science.
... did 2 trades: got Monarchy from De Gaulle and Monotheism from Bull and switched to Organized Religion:

170BC: Monty asks for Open Borders... "It ain't happening... i just don't like you enough!"
Settled Hastings. Seems SB would settled that gold if i didn't


Monty The Predictable declared war.
I've managed to survive first attack. Hope i will make peace with him soon as i'm not prepared to attack him.

130AD: another great prophet showed up and Christianity founded in Hastings. cool!

235AD: Moved my axe stack into Monty's territory and found out Texcoco is lightly defended. so i captured it

than made peace with him for a while. gave me 110 an 1 gpt.

325AD: Researched Civil Service and started Construction (Frederick fagot won't trade it). Now i can finally bring irrigation to York.
415AD: DoW'd Monty and captured 2 workers.
445AD: Construction researched.. now i can truly defeat Monty, as he's cities are nice defended with walls. Begin on HR.
1000AD: I captured Montiys cities but SoB allready moved to another continent. At least he's history for now. Also i built AP in London, switched to Caste System and assigned Scientists..
...while at war. great prophet born. bulbed Divine Right, and soon got Islam.
1020AD: GS born, bulbed Philosophy, and got Taosim... great, thats 4 religions, and 3 holy cities, all i need now is 3 GPs to go and im rich!!!

1255AD: Spiral Minaret built in London. OMG what am i gonna do with all those Prophets damn
...clickong the red dot, building infrastructure (HE & Maoi Statues in London, NE in Nothingam...)

1430AD: my caravel rushed into Sury
1470AD: WTH!? Haty showed up. Stupid colony bug! She's now vassal of Frederick!

OK i think i met everyone else! Thats the end of Checkpoint 2 i guess.