MOO2Civ

[JEELEN]

Decided to start a thread on this brilliant little mod for Final Frontier by NCCSavage, simply because it seemed to lack one!

So here it is: the MOO2Civ thread!

We have a MOO2Civ forum in the Civ4/Project & Development section!

Check it out here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=354

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PLEASE NOTE:

Some of the files listed below are compressed (and may be unzipped) using 7-zip, which is freely downloadable here: http://www.7-zip.org/

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Latest addition:


MOO2Civ 5.1

Details on the DL page here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...=file&id=15039



MOO2Civ 5.0 has been uploaded here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...=file&id=14464

Info:

Version: 5.0

Changes:
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- (re)added innate Stealth to all Darlok ships by Minor Annoyance
- (re)added innate Stealth Civpedia text by Minor Annoyance
- added redone traits by Minor Annoyance
- merged fulano's MOO2Civ minimod v. 1.5.4b (see Documents folder for details)
- added scenarios
- added custom music (partly optional)
- corrected races' colourscheme (no more 2 races with orange colour!)
- fixed Kael's Assimilation mod errors (not sure if it works; feedback welcome!)
- more text corrections


MOO2Civ 5.0Beta

Following several bugs/error reports I've cut down the mod size (temporarily)

Full details on the download page here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...=file&id=14034


MOO2Civ patch4l Wormholes renamed

minor update of TC01's Wormhole mapscripts:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...=file&id=13884


MOO2Civ patch 4l Full Install

Full details on the download page here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...=file&id=13379


MOO2Civ patch4k Full Install

- adds Darlok innate stealth
- adds wormhole mapscripts

Full info plus screenshots here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...=file&id=13037[/QUOTE]



MOO2Civ patch4j


Updates MOO2Civ to official patch 3.19


Download here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...=file&id=12703


MOO2Civ Patch4i FULL INSTALL

- includes a major overhaul of the promotions system

Full info + new screenshots here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...=file&id=12437

Alternate download: http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/c...mod/32279.html


Rating: A+


MOO2Civ Patch4h


Change in Patch4h:

- adds capture unit promotion (experimental)


http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...=file&id=12258


MOO2Civ Patch4g


Change in Patch4g:

- adds a Spiral Galaxy mapscript to the MOO2Civ maps


DOWNLOAD HERE: http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...=file&id=11979



MOO2Civ (Patch4f) FULL INSTALL

Changes in Patch4f:


- added Spies
- upgraded Carrier Ships to Titans
- reduced cost and strength of Battleships slightly
- added possibility of Great General emerging
- reduced initial colony size from 2 -> 1
- removed free Mag-Lev Networks
- added fix for can't-build-buildings-on-homeworld-capturebug
- removed redundant FF traits from Assets/Python/CvFinalFrontierEvents
- removed Barbarian World option (didn't work)
- replaced FF unit designations (Delta, Omega) by I-II-III suffixes
- added a Barbarian unit bonus (experimental).


MOO2Civ (Patch4f) FULL INSTALL otherwise contains:

- the original version of MOO2Civ, plus
- all necessary FF files, plus
- FF Flat map, plus
- 3 custom LHs, plus
- complete City List for all available races, plus
- custom Intro text
- all previous patches.

Moo2Civ (Patch4f) FULL INSTALL includes previous patches 1-4e. With the FF files now included there's no more need to manually copy or install any extra files, just

DOWNLOAD at:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...o=file&id=9532

INSTALL in the Firaxis/BtS/Mods folder and you're good to go!

Rating: A-
Currently at: 6,400+ downloads

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You can still download the original MOO2Civ (BtS patch 3.13 compatible only) here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...o=file&id=6521
(link to Patch4f included in the Comments)

Rating: A+
Currently at: 2,100+ downloads

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Some technical background can be found here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=236683

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What it might look like in : http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...o=file&id=8267


Suggestions on further improvement - and any practical help - are welcome!

More news as we go along.

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Credits: Jon Shafer, NCCSavage, woodelf, deanej, Deon, Kael, Minor Annoyance, cephalo, OrionVeteran, TC01, fulano, Zippadeedoodah - and all MOO fans; thx for your support!
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Some in-game screenshots followed by a tech tree survey (tech tree has been updated!):

[JEELEN]

Currently working on:

- thinking about what should follow MOO2Civ 5.0.


New screenshots added to the Patch4i DL page.

[woodelf]

Cool. Moo2 for Civ4. Sounds very promising.

[JEELEN]

Hm, yeah, that's what I thought. Unfortunately, I'm not much of a modder, so whithout any help I'm sorta stuck. (For instance, I've got a perfectly good MoO2 city/star system list, but at present I don't know how to implement it.)

[woodelf]

I've never modded FF, but I would think it's just somewhere in the XML.

[JEELEN]

Hm. I've looked everywhere I could, but found no refernce to cities/star system names. I'm befuddled.

[JEELEN]

I've just come unfuddled: I've located the XML-file, but can't access it without a proper editor. As all XML-utilities seem to be down 'cause of hack attack, I'd be much obliged if anybody has a copy...

[woodelf]

A lot of people use Word or something. I use XML Marker, free and idiot proof.

[JEELEN]

Thank you, woodelf! (DLed it - will see; I was just about to post a HELP in the Utilities section...)

[mamba]

I use Notepad++ for the editing and winmerge for comparisons.

[JEELEN]

Well, thank you mamba. Will check that out too!

[JEELEN]

Originally Posted by woodelf

free and idiot proof.

BTW - not wanting to bug you or anything, but - are you doing anything shipwise for Star Trek?

[OrionVeteran]

Originally Posted by JEELEN

Suggestions on further improvement are welcome!

If you are really going to try and use the CIV4 game engine to re-create Master of Orion II (MOO2), then here is a good suggestion to get you started and guarantee success.

I know this will be hard to do, as many people will have good ideas for what they would like to see added to this mod. This is very important: Finish the conversion of MOO2 "completely", before adding a single change to the original game features, attributes, units, buildings, research tree, diplomacy etc. Once you have a "working" bug free, bullet proof conversion; then, and only then, should you entertain new ideas to improve the mod.

MOO2 was/is an outstanding game and should be the starting point for creating a better version. MOO3 developers lost sight of that fact, as they tried to build a completely new game, without retaining the strengths of the previous version. Consequently, when MOO3 was released, it was a huge disappointment for loyal fans, like myself. MOO2 fans do not want to be disappointed again. So please, learn from the success of MOO2 by focussing on the completion of a working version of the original game first.

Very Respectfully,

Orion Veteran

[JEELEN]

Originally Posted by OrionVeteran

MOO2 was/is an outstanding game and should be the starting point for creating a better version. MOO3 developers lost sight of that fact, as they tried to build a completely new game, without retaining the strengths of the previous version. Consequently, when MOO3 was released, it was a huge disappointment for loyal fans, like myself.

I couldn't agree more. Personally, I found MoO3 to be quite static (actually, that about sums MoO3 up in one word: static). And I agree with your suggestions, obviously - that's why I really welcome suggestions for improvement (and because at present my "modding skills" are quite limited).

[woodelf]

Originally Posted by JEELEN

BTW - not wanting to bug you or anything, but - are you doing anything shipwise for Star Trek?

No. I'm working on WW1 city sets still and waiting for Star Trek ships to be converted from another game. I'll admit I've started a few, but lost interest for some reason.

[JEELEN]

Some good news and some bad news

After playing a few games as the Humans I decided to try and introduce MoO2 Star System names. I tested this and it worked out fine, so I decided to replace all standard names by MoO2 Star System names. Curiously, this does not work: the names are there, but the old name still appears whenever another race than the Humans founds a new colony... Having DLed Winmerge (thank you, mamba!), I'll see if I can figure out why.

@woodelf: That's a pity... maybe later then?

[JEELEN]

Some good news: after some testing the new Star Systems list turned out to work fine for all races (I forgot to exit and reload the mod before trying if it worked).

So I've released a little patch including custom Star System names for all new colonies founded for all races.

I uploaded it here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...o=file&id=8788

Next up is getting rid of these annoying XML-error messages, related to left over FF files that MOO2Civ doesn't use. However, as I won't have any time over the weekend, I thought it'd be nice to have a little patch up.) Additionally, it would be nice to get some suggestions from patch downloaders.

[OctopusOverload]

I just wanted to chime in and say: Great mod idea, don't stop till its done!

MoO2 is my old favorite 4X, probably the best one ever made. If you need any help with the mod, let me know!

[JosEPh_II]

I'll be watching this one.

I play all 3 of the MoO Series.

JosEPh (MoO3 Keeper of the Roll Call)

[JEELEN]

Well, thank you, OctopusOverload and JosEPH_II (and welcome to you both)!

Help is always welcome - in fact, I'll make a little

Status Report

Current Issues

- multiple XML-error messages on start up (will be addressed next week)
- no UUs or UBs as of yet (Stealth ship might be Darlok UU; might be available to other races on a much later advance - as it's currently available way early to all races) Official request posted
- Traits missiing or not yet implemented for some of the Leaders (could also use some additional LHs as some are just doubles with a different name) Official request posted
- no MOO2-style units (mod uses standard Final Frontier models all around) Official request posted


So there.