Immortal Cookbook III: Saladin of Arabia

The Immortal Cookbook is a concurrent succession game series aiming to help readers learn how to play and win at Immortal level in Civilization 4: Beyond the Sword, v3.17.

Latest news: Round 2 posting time extended to January 11th.

The rules of the IMC series are borrowed from the original series played on Monarch (see Monarchist Cookbook Bullpen) and slightly modified:

1. A 4000 BC save is generated.
2. All players play one round from that save.
3. All saves are uploaded with a corresponding report in a spoiler.
4. Each player who posted a save for the round votes for 3 saves: best save receives 3 points, 2nd place 2, and 3rd place 1. You cannot vote for your own save.
5. Steps 2-4 are repeated using only the previous best save until Victory. In case of a tie players will continue from the save they chose as best among those in the tie. If a player has not voted for any of the saves in the tie, he can choose from which of the tied saves to play. If a player's save is included in the tie he can play from it if he wants to.

Beloved (I'm sure) leader:



You wanted a challenge, right?

Settings for this game:



In addition to the settings shown, the ones for the Hemispheres map are: 2 massive continents, islands size: islands. If you want to know how it could look like here are some examples from Mortac's "The Complete Guide To Map Generation":


Starting position:



There will be no roster for this game. Anyone can pick the save chosen as starting point for a round and play the next round. You can also post shadow games in spoilers. Please don't post saves, reports or shadows for future rounds.

Rounds:
Round 0: The starting save
Round 1: 4000 BC - 1AD - Abegweit got the most votes for this round. Here's the save for the second round: save
Round 2: 1AD - 1000AD - currently playing, ends on Sunday, January 11th, 2009
Round 3: 1000AD - 1600AD
Round 4: 1600AD - victory

Please include your username in the save name.

I will try to get a go at this game someday.

Normal speed.

Start is fast so I'll probably play at least a round. After that, if time permits.

Hmm, 2 resources and 6 forests in the fat cross. I have a feeling we'll see horses or copper in there.

And I just realized how bad those starting techs are, especially on high difficulties. No food, no early start for a better unit. Basically, if you went the "normal" route here, Agriculture (corn) -> AH (cows) -> Mining -> BW and you didn't find either horses or copper nearby (or stone for Great Wall) you'd still need two techs to get a barb-fighting unit: Hunting -> Archery. Is this a case in which teching Hunting (optional prerequisite) before AH is actually a better strategy? Since not finding horses most probably implies going for Archery anyway.

ol Saladin, one of the better leaders and Civs. Get Hinduism, which gives an early religion and goes well with the color scheme and the Spiritual trait and a focus to build the The Great Library to match the Madrassa as the superior.
Camel Archers are a ways off, but no need to rush Animal Husbandry with Protective archers (border cities on hills, multi-player style-Guerilla and Garrison) My move is to build on the hill, tech Polytheism, set the animation to single figure, auto explore the warrior and hope he scans as much as possible as he gets no rest if wounded because i want him to die anyway to fund better newly built archer units with Guerilla. Then i'd tech Animal Husbandry because i changed my mind and build the second city on a hill on a river on the coast next to a resource of some sort.

I'll think i join this. Have to finish my own game here that's been stalled for a week and most of all the DC costs some time. On the other hand playing until 1 AD before 14 December should be doable. Good start btw.

I think i will auto explore the first warrior btw.It's time to adapt to the strats of the genius and really put these strats to work. I'll also adopt hinduism if it comes around, spurning all other religions. Might mean i have too make a more defensive stance earlier in the game which makes things interesting.

I tried to load this. Got Sid Meier as a leaderhead and about fourteen choices of the American civilisation as a civ. When I clicked OK, I got a CTD. Any thoughts?

Abegweit said:

I tried to load this. Got Sid Meier as a leaderhead and about fourteen choices of the American civilisation as a civ. When I clicked OK, I got a CTD. Any thoughts?

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Uninstall the Attacko mod and try again.

Jet said:

Uninstall the Attacko mod and try again.

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What is the Attacko mod? Are you saying that he more than just a troll? I've found his trolling to be funny. If he takes over my comp that is something completely different.

No, I was kidding. If there was an Attacko mod, that's probably what it would do.

But I just tried the save and I get exactly the same problem.

Your response WAS funny. Thank you.

However it would be nice to be able to load the save.

I love the attacko mod! Warriors have 80 strength and 7 first strikes, but the AI still chooses to obsolete them! Hahahaha!

I had the same issue as Abegweit upon trying to load the save.

Ah, crap, it's probably the latest version of the unofficial patch. Solver's version (0.19) didn't have any major problem with 3.17, but Dresden's version (0.21) does I guess. I'm not sure what to do here. Maybe someone else could provide a save and in the meantime I'll look in Dresden's thread to see if the problem has been identified.

What patches/mods do you guys have installed? I have 3.17 + Dresden's 0.21 + BUG Mod 3.5.

Hi everyone ,

I have no time this month for another game, I can barely play the already subscribed ones! But if you have problem with maps, I can make one for you Carl... PM me if you need help...

Cheers and have fun!

Ok, RRRaskolnikov's save is on the way (3.17 unpatched) and I posted in Dresden's thread to ask about the problem. I'll probably extend the period for the first round to December 14th. I meant extend past December 14th if people don't manage to play by then.

If you created a save with the 50-civ dll running you can only load it with the 50-civ dll. But you can "repair" the save by loading it with the 50-civ, then go to WB and save as a scenario which can then be loaded and played with the normal 18-civ dll (deleting teams and players 18-49 with notepad might be useful).

I did just that plus gave the Barbs their techs again (Hunting, Archery, Agriculture -- they forget these when detouring through WB...). If you choose to play this save, here it is.

So that's a save usable by both the 50 civs DLL games and others? Although I'll probably install the "normal" 18 civs version too. Anyway, thanks. Ras has sent me another save in the meantime. Now I have to decide which to use! May I ask if you think that this save is unbalanced in some way? Maybe we have no strategic resources nearby, or have 4-5 gold waiting for us just outside the capital's fat cross? (sorry to bother you even more )

I think it's balanced...