HOF MOD Errors + Mapfinder

KingMorgan · Jan 15, 2009

Not sure if this is the right place for a bug report, have checked out the BTS bug forum and the Technical Forum, but though as this is HoF / Mapfinder related i'll post it here. Apoligies if i'm the wrong place.

My HoF MOD is FUBAR, it loads ok, but when you settle a city we see this screen;

I suspect a strike is on it's way!!

I had this error once before, just after installing Mapfinder. I cured it by uninstalling the HoF MOD and Mapfinder, then reinstall. It happens on any exsisting HoF save game and on newly generated maps. If i unload a MOD then BTS will play normally and without issue. If i boot BTS i have no issues.

Using the HoF mod when it is like this, initally is slow as hell to settle and takes minutes to ALT TAB to desktop. nothing happens then suddenly the curser will change from pointly style to the Spinning world then you'll exit to main menu or to desktop (depends on the request you make) i.e it will do as asked but very slowly.

i suspct the error is caused by multiple running copies of Civ, i.e accidently I try to open a Mapfinder save when the BTS HoF is already running.

Info in init.log files:

C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\log\init.log

[1215.546] ERR: InitWinApp() failed, exiting
[1215.562] ERR: CIV Init FAILED, exiting

C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\log\init.log

[7037.375] ERR: InitWinApp() failed, exiting
[7037.375] ERR: CIV Init FAILED, exiting

Not sure if the above info is relavant or not but though i'd include it in case.

I'm not going to reinstall the HoF MOD and Mapfinder for the moment in case i can provide helpful info. Although shortly i'll have to to play SGTOM8 and BTS14.

I'm not really asking for a resolution, just trying to be helpful to document a potenital erorr / bug.

running 3.17 + Bluemarble + HOF 3.17 + Mapfinder 1.7.1 Build 2909

Denniz · Jan 15, 2009

Is this XP or Vista?

Have you used Map Finder? Either the VB app or Alt-M in game. Are the Paths in the HOF-3.17.001.ini file valid?

Are there any more log files, like Python*?

Something strange must have happened. I am just not sure what.

KingMorgan · Jan 16, 2009

XP service pack 2

Alt M in game.

There are no Python log files in the log folder.
(i have not enable logging in any way, if you could direct me to the correct .ini files i will turn loggin on and run HoF mod again to try to collect data)

Denniz · Jan 16, 2009

The is a CivilizationIV.ini file for each version in your My Games path.

Code:

; Enable the logging system
LoggingEnabled = 1

; Overwrite old network and message logs
OverwriteLogs = 1

KingMorgan · Jan 18, 2009

Thanks Denniz, doesn't seem to be logging any errors.

I guess it's just a corupt file or line of code somewhere.

PaulisKhan · Feb 23, 2009

Just a bump for Morgan, I have been having the exact same problem recently, however it is inconsistent which is making it difficult to isolate.
I'm keeping Ozbenno updated on the issue as I try to play throgh a full game. I'll make sure to flag it when I submit it so you can check if there's anything being corrupted in the save, or if it's a conflict within the software.

Denniz · Feb 23, 2009

KingMorgan posted in the G-Major 45 thread something about running more than one instance of civ4 at the same time. That would potentially explain his issue.

PaulisKhan · Feb 23, 2009

I'll check for that, however the problem has persisted after rebooting the computer and starting up Civ again (I'd never try and run multiple instances deliberately).
I will keep poking around until I can reproduce the error on demand. If only it wasn't so inconsistent.

unclethrill · Feb 23, 2009

I have a different Mapfinder problem. Not sure if anyone can help me though.

I have BTS and the HOF mod running fine using wine in Ubuntu but I can't get Mapfinder to run.
I used winetricks to install dotnet2.0 like Denniz said is required but it still crashes when I try to start it. I thought there may have been a VB dependency so I installed VBRUN6 runtime dlls but that didn't help either.

If I move the whole mapfinder folder into the wine -> program files folder then I can start MF in BTS but it only runs one map change and then kinda stops. Kinda meaning it never counts another map or changes but if you hit alt-x then it says stopping mapfinder.

The error is below if anyone has ever tried this and been successful.

Spoiler :

Denniz · Feb 23, 2009

unclethrill said:
I have a different Mapfinder problem. Not sure if anyone can help me though.

Try putting a text file with the name "Override.txt" in the same folder with the Civ4MapFinder.exe. That will turn off the legacy grid control that could be causing your the problem. If it isn't that then I haven't a clue.

As for the Alt-M freeze problem, try turning on the logging in the CivilizationIV.in file (My Game BTS folder).

Code:

; Enable the logging system
LoggingEnabled = 1

; Overwrite old network and message logs
OverwriteLogs = 1

The logs will be in the "logs" folder under the My Games BTS folder. The ones with Python in their name are the ones that could tell us what is going on.

Denniz · Feb 23, 2009

PaulisKhan said:
I'll check for that, however the problem has persisted after rebooting the computer and starting up Civ again (I'd never try and run multiple instances deliberately).
I will keep poking around until I can reproduce the error on demand. If only it wasn't so inconsistent.

Well once the save file is corrupt the reboot probably won't help. The thing to check is whether a new game has the problem.

You might want to run Windows Update to see if there are any updates (optional or otherwise) that might help. It is not without precedent for that to help with strange problems.

unclethrill · Feb 24, 2009

Denniz said:
Try putting a text file with the name "Override.txt" in the same folder with the Civ4MapFinder.exe. That will turn off the legacy grid control that could be causing your the problem. If it isn't that then I haven't a clue.

As for the Alt-M freeze problem, try turning on the logging in the CivilizationIV.in file (My Game BTS folder).

Code:

; Enable the logging system LoggingEnabled = 1 ; Overwrite old network and message logs OverwriteLogs = 1

The logs will be in the "logs" folder under the My Games BTS folder. The ones with Python in their name are the ones that could tell us what is going on.

Thanks so much.
The Override.txt file allows mapfinder to run in Civ4 and generate maps. I still can't get the MF gui to run though. I know it has to do with dependencies that I don't have installed yet in WINE.
Denniz, is there any way that I could get a copy of the source code for Mapfinder? I'm a Software Engineer and fluent in C++ so a look at the code would really help me to figure out where this is dying at. If that is not possible, can you list the includes so that I at least have something to go on?

Thanks

Denniz · Feb 24, 2009

unclethrill said:
Thanks so much.
The Override.txt file allows mapfinder to run in Civ4 and generate maps. I still can't get the MF gui to run though. I know it has to do with dependencies that I don't have installed yet in WINE.
Denniz, is there any way that I could get a copy of the source code for Mapfinder? I'm a Software Engineer and fluent in C++ so a look at the code would really help me to figure out where this is dying at. If that is not possible, can you list the includes so that I at least have something to go on?

Thanks

The override.txt doesn't have anything to do with the python part of map finder in the HOF Mod. Something else must have changed. :crazyeye:

I am not sure giving you the source would be helpful unless you know VB.NET (2005). :mischief:

I wrote the original in VB6 and upgraded it to VB.NET 2005 later. I am a better VB developer than C++. I didn't start messing with C++ until Dianthus left.

There are some InterOp DLLs that might be what you're missing.

PaulisKhan · Feb 26, 2009

I downloaded and installed windows service pack 3. I had thought the auto-updater was taking care of those sorts of things for me, but apparently not.

No problems so far, thanks for the suggestion =)

Denniz · Feb 26, 2009

PaulisKhan said:
I downloaded and installed windows service pack 3. I had thought the auto-updater was taking care of those sorts of things for me, but apparently not.

No problems so far, thanks for the suggestion =)

There are somethings it won't do automatically. Sevice Packs are a major example.

KingMorgan · Feb 26, 2009

I'm not absolutly certain that i was running mutliple copies of the game, i suspected it was so after a "fat finger" mistake whilst renaming a mapfinder save, it is more than likely this was the case though.

My solution is to unistall the HoF mod then reinstall, it has certainly resolved my issues. I would encourage Paulis to try this before any other radical action

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